amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

this is DIY, we do what we like

just to be clear the ron paul Vibe that steve albini emits has less to do w/ the self-sufficiency thing and more to do with him being a nerdy engineering-obsessed skinny jean shorts-wearing white dude whos said and done some questionable things w/r/t women and ppl of color and named a band after a really gross anime character

lol

a nerdy engineering-obsessed skinny jean shorts-wearing white dude

:/

done some questionable things

??

at least I don't wear jean shorts I guess

i just mean i dont want to get into an argument about whether or not naming yr band "rapeman" is misogynistic but i think we can all agree its "questionable"

slight difference between judging the work ethic of somebody you're evaluating for a job vs. some random person.

"some random person" is a weird way to describe a musical artist who publicizes and celebrates her economic model on the internet

named a band after a really gross anime character

Or in Ron Paul's case, a son.

also i think 'self-sufficiency' is a kind of gross phrase, sorry!

albini def has done more than his fair share of baiting, cutesy devil's advocate bullshit but i give him points for showing more soul and sympathy as he's aged, even if he still clearly pats himself on the back for not tolerating fools.

dude whos said and done some questionable things w/r/t women and ppl of color and named a band after a really gross anime character

― max, Monday, September 17, 2012 3:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just saying you cited rapeman seperately and and things he's SAID seperately, so just seemed like the "done" part came off as a bit more serious accusation

please consider this post my Official Apology to steve albini for implying that he is a weirdo racist who votes for ron paul, he is just a weirdo

glad you figured it out

ps big black sucks

for penance you must post 10 nice things about Jesus Lizard on ILM today

big black are better than sting & also jazzier, more soulful

*fingersnaps*

"This is Jordan...yeah baby, this is how we do."

they also made a profit on literally every tour they undertook which is why they're at the vanguard of culture
xp

only libertarians like noise music in which all instruments are self sufficient and independent from one another as well as statist concepts like tune, hook, melody, harmony, 'sounding good'

thanks Geir

Roland voted for Reagan

"music in which all instruments are self sufficient and independent from one another as well as statist concepts like tune, hook, melody, harmony, 'sounding good'"

Wait when did we start talking the Minutemen?

Did David Lynch also vote for Reagan? Missoula, Montana connection...

Wait when did we start talking the Minutemen?

1980

actually Roland was probably not a US citizen

Wait Robo?

how many active politics threads do we have now?

i trust the market to correct itself

any chance someone knows where i can read the letter (which this thread is apparently no longer about)? it sounds cool.

did you try the link in the opening post of the thread

Link doesn't work anymore -- new address:

http://www.amandapalmer.net/blog/dear-robert-smith-an-open-letter/

if auctioning off neil's daughter was for charity, then she didn't say anything about it. in fact at the end of the blog where she totals up the money she made on that auction she enthuses that she is finally "making a living".

also, re: upthread, im not dissing her for auctioning off tshirts she made (and trash/recyclables) for money per se, its just like...how many times has she done these online fundraiser types of things, its kind of mind-boggling in addition to touring and selling records

That letter is 10% The Cure 90% self-hype.

plus no one who is married to neil gaiman is in any way shape or form "struggling"

one of the complaints was that she was using a professional fundraising management service that was skimming a good percentage of the funds, at least for kickstarter, and it would make sense to have all kinds of middlemen handling similar things elsewhere.

i dunno if she outsourced the chewing of postcards though.

the whole postcard chewing thing is easily my favorite thing to come out of this thread

most of all i dont understand how chewing is the first step in that process

its like i will chew, stamp and sign a postcard or something

you guys

apparently she was chewing on EVERYTHING she auctioned

http://www.amandapalmer.net/blog/wasnt-this-supposed-to-be-my-fucking-week-off/

I don't know if I am bummed or relieved that the images aren't showing up

steve albini also named one of his projects Run Ni**er Run. cuz he's "edgy" like that. i mean if you're gonna bring up old band names.

if thats not a Ron Paul Vibe i dont know what is

man @discographies may have a cool jpg but I called the borderline thing on this thread like 5 days ago, damn

a Ron Paul Vibe is the glass dildo Amanda Palmer auctioned off

i gave away about 200 tickets, totally for free, via twitter. there was no other way to obtain them.

we could have technically charged for the show, through paypal or something, but i wanted to do a little experiment and see what would happen if we just passed the hat.

people generally donated about $10, some gave more, some not at all.

i didn’t give my impassioned “this is your one and only chance this year to directly pay my rent” speech, which might have made a difference.

this stuff just fascinates me.

i truly believe that we’re heading into a musical economy that will rely on more of this kind of model: fans being directly called upon to support their artists.

fanagement.

Along with having weird eyebrows she seems to write everything in lowercase. Right in my IA wheelhouse, this lady

hey now

this stuff just fascinates me too