Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagon/Ecologyst

Bear Witness is fine but how can you (not just you, all the people repping for it) pick the track with no Dr. Octagon on it

Blue Flowers is the next-level moment on this album

it is, but i have to vote for "i'm destructive"

"Blue Flowers", but I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept, almost half-assed in delivery, yet entirely captivating.

taking a paient out of the bathroom into water

rock wid it

i can't stop the blood

and an all-time favorite: you need a bad operation

I think I may actually prefer the skits to the songs on this.

Grateful Dead - ROCK WIT IT

production is interesting and the concept is cool, but the rhymes on this albums are pretty wack, and too self-consciously weird.

I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept

I think he took this from Cabin Boy, the Chris Elliott movie

xp u crazy Kool Keith is at the top of his game on this record.

I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept

I think he took this from Cabin Boy, the Chris Elliott movie

Totally possible. I couldn't make it 20 minutes into Cabin Boy.

bear witness, i'm destructive, blue flowers - all great. i need to listen to this and think.

xp u crazy Kool Keith is at the top of his game on this record.

I don't consider lines like "Earth people / I am from California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" to be anywhere close to brilliant. The whole album is filled with these contrived left-field rhymes that don't really wow you so much as they just blend sci-fi and perverse porn themes into a half-assed mix. I'll give it credit for being different and quirky, especially within a genre that doesn't stray into weirdness very often, but most of the time, the rhyming just seems perfunctory and undeveloped, not clever and well-executed. I'd put this into a category of albums I like in theory, but whose execution actually isn't all that compelling.

i'm destructive

xp what genre would that be?

rap concept album about your trip on bath salts?

xp what genre would that be?

I was really talking about rap music in general from that era.

if the genre is "rap" then I don't really know how to respond. Fair enough not liking the rapping, sweeping and incorrect generalisations not so cool.

xp!

feel like the criticism of the lyrics is reasonable, his flow is bonkers tho

kissing mary j blige on earth was quite normal

ya i mean the lyrics may be a lil too self consciously weird but its ok because theyre still funny

sweeping and incorrect generalisations not so cool.

what are some other sci-fi rap albums from 1996?

I don't consider lines like "Earth people / I am from California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" to be anywhere close to brilliant.

i don't know that "earth people" is the best showcase for KK's skills, but it's got some lines. "equator ex my chance to flex skills on ampex / with power meters and heaters gauge anti-freeze / octagon oxygen, aluminum intoxicants." isolating the repeated chorus hook as an example of bad rapping isn't a fair criticism. i think the rhyming is pretty clever, overall, even in its half-assedness. the nonsensical and often awkward goofiness of the whole project is a big part of its appeal.

isolating the repeated chorus hook as an example of bad rapping isn't a fair criticism.

i called that out because i remembered it. but i'm also claiming that the rest of the album is littered with similarly half-assed and awkward rhymes, which you seem to agree with.

xp it's got a stream of consciousness quality too, IMO, that makes even the nonsensical stuff sound sort of plausible. Plus his amazing flow helps as well.

re.sci-fi rap albums from 1996: true enough not many, but your assertion was that rap is a genre that doesn't do weird, and that's demonstrably false.

it's actually "Earth people / New York and California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" fwiw. i mean if you don't like one you won;t like the other but it's still worth mentioning becaue it's a massive hook.

your assertion was that rap is a genre that doesn't do weird, and that's demonstrably false.

i didn't phrase it right, but i was crediting it within the context of that time as being inventive. admittedly, i don't know too much about rap after the 2000s, but yes, i imagine it has a lot more subgenres now.

ya i mean the lyrics may be a lil too self consciously weird but its ok because theyre still funny

otm, and i like the way the lyrics kind of ping-pong between dumb doo-doo jokes, self-indulgent non-sequiturs and moments of genuinely unsettling psychedelic oddity. the album isn't so much a showcase for keith's rapping as it is a cabinet of curiosities, the focal point of each song shifting from moment to moment from keith's bugged-out nonsense to dan's creepy sci-fi soundscapes, from qbert's jaw-dropping cutting to skits and samples, all the weird little fragments on the margins. it's funny, catchy and more than a little scary. one of my favorite albums of its era.

i had the original bulk recording LP braggin

it's "half sharkalligator half man"

My first thought was No Awareness, but I'll have to listen again.

Keith toured here a couple of months ago, as Dr Octagon, playing this in full

(I didn’t go bcz I’ve seen him as Kool Keith before and he was horrible)

saw him at ATP, at one point he just rapped the numbers from the dates on the back of a tour t-shirt some guy on stage was wearing and it was incredible, but it quickly devolved into really embarrassing poo and wee stuff.

You can call 1-800-PeePee5 1-Doo-Doo. I'm in your corner.

Keith can be fun live but even then only in a half-assed way

You have bees flying around your rectum.

hammer... flame... i'm gettin ready to stab. jam it in.

blend sci-fi and perverse porn themes into a half-assed mix

I will listen to any album w/this description

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9VYzNUXGDA
blue Flowers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=fc8zdLQuZp0
Earth People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abky6hbKPpg&feature=related
halfsharkalligatorhalfman

Hadn't seen any of the videos until I was reminded by this thread and looked them up

or maybe that's one official one and two fan ones.

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either "i'm destructive" or "halfsharkalligatorhalfman"

i remember seeing "Blue Flowers" on like MTV Amp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHNWt57Gklg

wasnt really a fan of rap in drum and bass usually, but this mix improved the on original imo.

sailling
takes me away
to where i'm really going
shoo-be-do-wop

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