amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

I think that was her recording budget for the album

She had to pay for own food because she wasn't touring? xp

authentic goth clothing doesn't come cheap

Just being her.

Actually this came up when discussing this over the weekend, that in a way 'rip-off' is not the way a lot of people are looking at this - she is basically a Premium Brand at this point, a lot of people buying a 7" + arts&craft for $100 are feeling reassured by the price, because that means that it has been created and curated in a very classy manner.

Yeah that's a lot of money to spend on recording your DIY album.

The lines from the breakdown are:

first i’ll pay off the lovely debt - stacks of bills and loans and the like - associated with readying all of the stuff that had to happen BEFORE i brought this project to kickstarter.

for the past 8 months or so, i wasn’t touring - and therefore wasn’t making much income - but every step of the way, there were expenses. so, during that time, i borrowed from various friends and family who i’d built up trust with over the years.

i had to pay my staff and crew to get this album ready as well as keep the ship afloat and headed in the right direction. i also needed to come up with the cost of the recording itself (which was pretty whopping), and any other expenses the band racked up in the meanwhile.

to put a number on all of that behind-the-scenes stuff which just got us to DAY ONE of kickstarter: to put a number on all of that behind-the-scenes stuff which just got us to DAY ONE of kickstarter: $250,000.50,000.

(8 months cover the "Evening with Neil and Amanda" kickstarter, FYI)

i also needed to come up with the cost of the recording itself (which was pretty whopping)

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/b/b1/Doing-it-wrong.jpg

"Get this album ready" ... "keep the ship afloat and headed in the right direction" ... "any other expenses" ... "all of that behind-the-scenes stuff"

Really vague stuff.

cocaine

well let's be fair, none of us are shareholders in Amanda Palmer Inc and therefore we shouldn't really EXPECT a detailed financial report detailing her budget and profits

having said that, I do wonder exactly what she spent all her money on; I half expect her to bring a pack of ocelots on stage with her

i had to pay my staff and crew

this to me is pretty weird. I have a "staff" and "crew" (a tour manager, a manager, an accountant, a lawyer) - they get paid a percentage of what I take in and their pay comes off the top of tour receipts (or in the case of recording, either from an advance or out of my pocket); they're not on monthly retainer. they don't live in the house or anything. I sure as shit don't have a cook or a personal trainer or a weed sommelier.

I found an old fundraising thing where she auctioned off a date with Neil's daughter, I don't know if we already talked about that

with her for all we know there was literally a ship that she was keeping afloat

hahaha cad otm

also worst stepmom ever

is there anything these dudes won't auction off

we should start a fake kickstarter where fans bid for the privilege of brushing AFP's teeth

Oh, there's far worse jobs she could have them do...

http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2012/09/11/from-the-desk-of-amanda-palmer-the-sea-sponge/

okay I feel like that needs its own thread divorced completely from Amanda Palmer

I used to live with a roommate who left those all over the bathroom.

tbh that prob shouldn't be shocking you guys

tbh the shocking part was the "squeezing them out in the sink" bit, although the name is kind of gross ("Jam Sponge"?)

eh, not really shocked over here.

I thought it was more funny than anything else

I found an old fundraising thing where she auctioned off a date with Neil's daughter, I don't know if we already talked about that

uhhhhh despite the connection this grown woman is her own person, came up with the idea herself, and the funds raised were for a shelter/support org for homeless women and sex workers, not for artisanal 2" tape, it would be p unchill to bring this into this discussion imo

well that's one reason to talk about it tbh

not exactly sure that selling a date with someone is exactly the best method to raise money for an organization that helps sex workers, but, okay

ok the cause may be good, but, is there more nuance or detail to "she auctioned off a date with Neil's daughter"?

afaic anyone who has the guts to do a "Spongebob... in my vagina?" blog post gets a free beer

sadly Robot Chicken got there a few years ago

so maybe you own Seth Green a beer? not sure how well "blog" maps onto "stop-action animation sketch show"

Would let Spongebob near my vage. that guy's bad news.

lol actually I went back to the sketch and I'm totally wrong, beer is still up for grabs

who lives in a vagina under the sea

crabs

I was explaining this to my roommate this morning and basically it's good that people are looking more closely at Kickstarter and Kickstatrer-funded projects. It's sort of crazy that "social pressure" is pretty much the only thing enforcing the 'Starters to actually follow through with what they promise. And it's interesting to sort of watch that play out in real time.

part of me really appreciates that Kickstarter seems to do absolutely no QC (beyond their guidelines [http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines], which, if applied strictly could nix half the shit AP is pulling) -- just lets everything ride and shows what people will throw their money at.

1. Funding for projects only.

A project has a clear goal, like making an album, a book, or a work of art. A project will eventually be completed, and something will be produced by it. A project is not open-ended. Starting a business, for example, does not qualify as a project.

3. Prohibited uses:

No charity or cause funding.

Examples of prohibited use include raising money for the Red Cross, funding an awareness campaign, funding a scholarship, or promoting the donation of funds raised, or future profits, to a charity or cause.

No "fund my life" projects.

Examples include projects to pay tuition or bills, go on vacation, or buy a new camera.

This makes me think of those weird personal sites from the late 90s where (mostly) college girls would update with pictures of themselves and random thoughts, then lists of all the stuff they want and their creepy older "fans" would buy them the stuff.

...and half of those turned out to be creepy older dudes

"Maybe my vage is just shaped too weirdly."

...and half of those turned out to be creepy older dudes

lol, yes.

jon just hit a DEEP, PAINFUL cultural nerve

Nah man, I was just thinking about other things on the internet where people have just blatantly asked for free stuff from other people and those pages came to mind.

I just started watching Parks & Recreation and binged on about 50 episodes in a row last night so I couldn't help reading Albini's lectures on self-sufficiency and fiscal responsibility in the voice of Ron Swanson.

http://t.qkme.me/3qybd2.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110120/park-recs-pyramid_1500.jpg

can we start linking Community GIFs here too, then the thread will truly be finished

sorry