amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

the homes are so cheap there, the musicians who who live in them work for free

Chicago is badass if you can stand the winters - I myself could not

So, I've only read four AFP tumblr posts ever (Kickstarter, "I don't have 30K", "I once played ukelele on a beach for free" and "Somebody made an SNL reference to me and I started shaking") but I am kind of surprised at how often she makes reference to alcohol consumption. "Most importantly... does everybody have a drink?" "...and beer!" et cetera.

I'm gonna start paying my musicians in cigarette cartons

xp: welcome to Boston

Not condoning calling anybody an "ignorant slut" but I was called an "ignorant slut" by a nerd friend on the daily c. grade 7, maybe she hasn't seen that skit tho

My POV boils down to this: Yes, Palmer's musician-fans would be fucking overjoyed to join her onstage at a show in their town. That doesn't make it any less fucking gross that she asked them to do it. She shouldn't ever have asked.

^^^ I guess there're all sorts of problems with the following analogy, but, like, if you are way famous, there are plenty of people who would be very happy to have sex with you because they like your work. They'll probably enjoy it, too! But that's still exploiting your position as a Way Famous Person and it's kinda gross whether your conquests are having a good time or not. Obligatory self-disclosure, as both DJP & Ówen can attest our dressing room post-Aerosmith gig is basically a massive, exhausting orgy that doesn't end until somebody has a plane to make. we are ashamed yet sated

I am kind of surprised at how often she makes reference to alcohol consumption. "Most importantly... does everybody have a drink?" "...and beer!" et cetera.

don't be too surprised by this btw - making reference to alcohol is an easy way to get people to have something to latch onto in your music/persona. A decade ago I wrote about some alcoholics - lots of people like that story because, hey, we get drunk too! afp is really savvy businesswise and "appeal to people who drink to unwind" is basically Good Entertainment Business 101

So, I've only read four AFP tumblr posts ever (Kickstarter, "I don't have 30K", "I once played ukelele on a beach for free" and "Somebody made an SNL reference to me and I started shaking") but I am kind of surprised at how often she makes reference to alcohol consumption. "Most importantly... does everybody have a drink?" "...and beer!" et cetera.

― E.I.E.I. (Ówen P.), Monday, September 17, 2012 3:06 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

She reminds me of my friends and family who are super into RenFest in this regard.

Obligatory self-disclosure, as both DJP & Ówen can attest our dressing room post-Aerosmith gig is basically a massive, exhausting orgy that doesn't end until somebody has a plane to make. we are ashamed yet sated

An orgy of hummus?

for some reason I just assumed the orgy was just the three of you. kind of a confusing picture.
x-p

neil young is celebrating 40 years of getting applause for "and i felt like getting high"

I'm currently re-evaluating all alcohol references on my favourite Aeromith albums

A fountain of hummus.

fyi I still have tahini in embarrassing places

better slip down to the oasis

that's what got me into trouble in the first place

I'm currently re-evaluating all alcohol references on my favourite Aeromith albums

you'll notice a cliff-drop in them after 2003 because that was when I figured out that it was true to say about some of my stuff "what some people like about it is that it has people who are drinking in it" which was a pretty hard pill to swallow for an egotist who likes to imagine that when somebody likes you it's because they understand

Wait, so famous persons are only supposed to have sex with people they pay properly now?

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

xp Similarly, I stopped singing about my butt in 2005.

well they need to "stimulate the economy" so to speak

This isn't even someone using status for sex, this is someone writing "YOU HAVE TO LET ARTISTS MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT HOW THEY SHARE THEIR MOUTHS" after getting shit for a "fans, please suck me" personal ad.

There is a band out there that has a specific box of laminated backstage passes that read "Fuck Pass" but I will not name any names

duh, its aerosmith

It's Polyphonic Spree, isn't it? xp

I was gonna say Fuck Buttons

Nah it's aerosmith. It's a maguffin tho, the look on those girls' faces when presented with a glass of hummus and some pro-women's rights pamphlet is priceless

And here i thought the laminate reading "hummus" was just a pun (break up the syllables) like when Third Eye Blind allegedly had "TULSA" (spell it backwards) on theirs

The fact that she's dead on correct about the amount of personal abuse coming her way doesn't stop her from being completely wrong about what people actually have a problem with in this situation.

tbf a lot of people have a hard time grasping when they've stopped being a wronged wage slave and turned into a grumpy small business owner...see Mike Judge!

what did Judge do?

not so much referencing personal actions but the switch in perspective from Office Space to Extract

Extract seems to say he had a great grasp on when it happened

this AP thing has spread to the point of middle-aged jazz dudes linking to shitty blog posts on fb and saying 'her music sucks, boycott her! and nicki minaj too!'. kinda takes the fun out of it.

Nicki should crowdsource her wigs

Jazz - providing refuge for humorless pedants since the 1940s.

"I need two fans to show up at every show and I will wear them as hair." xp

send audition locks

Mainly i wanna know how she burned through $250,000 before even beginning this kickstarter. Please someone quiz her on that.

I think that was her recording budget for the album

She had to pay for own food because she wasn't touring? xp

authentic goth clothing doesn't come cheap

Just being her.

Actually this came up when discussing this over the weekend, that in a way 'rip-off' is not the way a lot of people are looking at this - she is basically a Premium Brand at this point, a lot of people buying a 7" + arts&craft for $100 are feeling reassured by the price, because that means that it has been created and curated in a very classy manner.

Yeah that's a lot of money to spend on recording your DIY album.

The lines from the breakdown are:

first i’ll pay off the lovely debt - stacks of bills and loans and the like - associated with readying all of the stuff that had to happen BEFORE i brought this project to kickstarter.

for the past 8 months or so, i wasn’t touring - and therefore wasn’t making much income - but every step of the way, there were expenses. so, during that time, i borrowed from various friends and family who i’d built up trust with over the years.

i had to pay my staff and crew to get this album ready as well as keep the ship afloat and headed in the right direction. i also needed to come up with the cost of the recording itself (which was pretty whopping), and any other expenses the band racked up in the meanwhile.

to put a number on all of that behind-the-scenes stuff which just got us to DAY ONE of kickstarter: to put a number on all of that behind-the-scenes stuff which just got us to DAY ONE of kickstarter: $250,000.50,000.

(8 months cover the "Evening with Neil and Amanda" kickstarter, FYI)

i also needed to come up with the cost of the recording itself (which was pretty whopping)

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/b/b1/Doing-it-wrong.jpg

"Get this album ready" ... "keep the ship afloat and headed in the right direction" ... "any other expenses" ... "all of that behind-the-scenes stuff"

Really vague stuff.

cocaine