If it's any consolation, this is a good song to sing along with:Sometimes it gets so hard to care,It can't be this way everywhere.I'm gonna let you pass.And I'll go last.Time will tellJust who has fellAnd who's been left be-hi-i-ind,When you go your way and I go mine.
― dow, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)
maura got canned for this guy?
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Friday, 14 September 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)
He's overseeing the blogs throughout the chain.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)
chain chain chain
― dow, Friday, 14 September 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)
What the hell's the deal there?
― fadanuf4erybody, Friday, September 14, 2012 5:03 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
he does what people ask him to do
― J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
i almost feel bad for westhoff. he's being crucified all over the place today dude to forces that are much bigger than him, and idk, he's given a platform to a few very good writers. and he's keeping himself employed. but i'm not sure if i've ever liked his writing and his editorial direction of the LA weekly section was pretty terroristic.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)
i actually thought maura left of her own accord when i heard this, given the general sort of intransigence and cluelessness that VV media management traffic in, so i'm surprised to read the quote above where she said the decision wasn't hers
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 September 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)
one thought i had today was whether or not this is going to be the final nail in the coffin of P&J and whether some other site (or people independently) should try and pull a jackin pop 2.0
― J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)
yeah that definitely crossed my mind today
― some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)
sorry maura, you did a good job
― listen to that wu-tang whistle blowin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 September 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)
I'm just glad that finally someone in the Voice can have the courage to applaud Lenny Kravitz "for never conforming to racial expectations."
― cr4bdbgs, Friday, 14 September 2012 22:36 (thirteen years ago)
there are larger forces behind westoff's editorial work but when its your byline below 'Interview With a Raver Who Wears Electrical Tape on Her Boobs' and you are a 40 year old man and that raver is a senior in high school, then you deserve all the shit that comes your way
― bugler, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:09 (thirteen years ago)
i honestly thought the worstoff twitter was just a parody thing, holy shit at those being actual quotes
― some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)
Heh, the guy who wrote this really casually racist article is the editor-in-chief of the Seattle Weekly. :/
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)
Quotes from his writing and his twitter. What a prince.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)
This is dredging up a crapton of old memories. I thought I'd already gotten about as cynical as I could get about media stuff, but at this rate I'm going to be surprised if all media isn't just advertiser-sponsored in the next ten years, except for maybe the ny times and le monde or something, both of which will be blog subdivisions of huffpo, and the Sun, which will be the website of record, by virtue of being the only outlet that pays writers in anything other than promotional swag and jujubes.
― s.clover, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:26 (thirteen years ago)
i just found out that a local mag i write for, The Urbanite, announced today that it's shutting down, so yeah, definitely feeling like that at the moment.
― some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:30 (thirteen years ago)
Remember the black R&B (LOL) singer named Brandy? What happened to her?
― Andy K, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)
i feel like a lot of folks have missed out on just how bad the la weekly music section is. nothing but really poorly done challopy lists and pix of raver chicks it seems.
― omar little, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)
village voice's sound of the city blog is going to become the pits, isn't it?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)
yes it is
― J0rdan S., Friday, 14 September 2012 23:33 (thirteen years ago)
i feel like the state of "alternative" journalism nowadays is like one huge intentional middle finger to anyone with taste--seemingly with few exceptions, the most egregiously awful writers have been promoted to editorial positions. under this set of circumstances chuck eddy looks like edmund wilson.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)
at least we get to work on some puns involving the new music editor's prophetic last name, "worstoff"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:36 (thirteen years ago)
"are you better or worstoff than four years ago?"
worstoff IS a pun, his name is westhoff
― some dude, Friday, 14 September 2012 23:41 (thirteen years ago)
oh shows how much i know.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 23:50 (thirteen years ago)
the saga continues...
Ben Westhoff @brwesthoNew Voice music editor takes the reigns a week from Monday.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)
The 'saga' shows the guy can't even spell reins right!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)
Reigndance
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)
The reigns in Spane fall manly on the planes.
― Andy K, Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)
RTVM: Do you think being on Real World helped with Reigndance at all?Andre: No, not at all, MTV at that time was all about Nirvana, Pearl Jam and that scene.
Andre: No, not at all, MTV at that time was all about Nirvana, Pearl Jam and that scene.
― Andy K, Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)
I have been so tempted to go to a reigndance show, but I never did.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)
for all intensive purposes, this dude seems like a solid editor. a+.
― s.clover, Saturday, 15 September 2012 00:52 (thirteen years ago)
his editorial direction of the LA weekly section was pretty terroristic. Gory details please? This may matter to some of us soon.
― dow, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)
nice quote at the end of this 9 year old friggin' weird-ass thread:
"under this set of circumstances chuck eddy looks like edmund wilson."
and i just read the whole headache again so its all "fresh" in my mind. i'm not gonna forgetfullness anything!
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:21 (thirteen years ago)
Fuuuuck. Really?!?? Jesus Christ this sucks on several levels
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry to hear that, Al.
It's getting tougher and tougher out there
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
it's kind of funny/sad how those of us who trade in the written word scolded the music industry so much for not adapting to the internet fast enough to develop a sustainable new model that's remotely as profitable as the new one, when it turns out us typewriter monkeys got it way way worse in that department
― some dude, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:33 (thirteen years ago)
Film crits had it worse, or first, overall. Also later, like Hoberman. The hits just keep on coming.
― dow, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
eh, hoberman's fine
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
i didn't mean music writers specifically, i meant broadly people working in newspapers, magazines etc.
― some dude, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
Jordan, just the man I wanted to see. "Terroristic" in the section? Please tell.
― dow, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
i think maura will be fine too! she is way smart and and i know its hard finding a gig like that but if anyone can find a cool gig she can. anyone working at the VV now must have one eye on the clock anyway. not exactly a job-security kinda joint anymore.
maybe she'll go work at rhapsody with chuck and rob!
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:47 (thirteen years ago)
for your convenience, voice media and idolator have now merged and will be known as violator.
― s.clover, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:50 (thirteen years ago)
yeah Maura will have other jobs, for sure, maybe a way better one. but she did THAT job really well and it was fun to be a small part of it, so i'm still gonna be bummed. (xpost lol)
― some dude, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)
clover are you aware that there's already a company called violator and its founder recently committed suicide?
― some dude, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)
"Terroristic" in the section? Please tell.
― dow, Friday, September 14, 2012 10:39 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'd just go and take a look at the LA weekly blog. or read any of the stories from today about maura being released and westhoff taking over. they've put all their chips on pageview whoring and outright trolling, along with doing things like breaking up a 600 word story into 4 pages. real dumpster diving shit. it's no way to sustain a business, either.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)
commentary and dissent have merged to form dysentery.
― lord sitar and peter gunz (get bent), Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)
are you aware that there's already a company called dysentery and its founder recently pooped?
― lag∞n, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:54 (thirteen years ago)
some dude -- oh man, i didn't put two and two together and recognize the bad-taste connotation to my joke. didn't intend that at all.
― s.clover, Saturday, 15 September 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)