amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

no chapbook?!?
no chapbook.

Many xps.

@ sic. Yes, she does say it will cost $100 per unit for a 7" and arts-and-crafts package:

arts & crafts/7-inch packages, if we sell about 300 of them, adds about another $30k (we’re planning on spending roughly $100 each on the packaging for those, including not only the vinyl but the fun arts-and-crafts activities. oh, and postage/shipping x5)

Note: she says these are to SELL. As in, these are manufacturing costs, which will (I assume) be partially recouped.

@ everyone else.

The reason why I'm so interested in calling her out / making this right is because I do work as an amateur musician (i.e. not Union) and I hire amateur musicians. If you guys wanna make noise about Prefix hiring people at $0.01 a word I will happily support you in your anger.

Wait, I assumed we were all joking about Dingleberry Jam...?

xpost to emil.y

you don't have to send a chapbook

Might as well have been called "Dingleberry Jam."

Sund4r, this seemed pretty genuine, and was what I was responding to. Maybe I missed the joking part in Hurting's post, I dunno.

guys, these men called their album "dingleberry jam". These four...adult...men.

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Friday, September 14, 2012 5:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Again, like I said, never trust a hippie

(Honestly, its name slipped my mind when I posted about it. I knew it was something Jam)

how did brad paisley end up in all this?

that string of the past 20 posts or so took away our collective right to criticize amanda palmer. sorry guys, we can't make fun of her anymore.

Happily I ran into three musicians today who brought the AP thing up and they were using words like "batshit" and "insane" to describe the Kickstarter breakdown.

I mean, I don't know what else to say other than "I have put out records and sold them out of my living room and I know what this shit costs and this person is making up figures".

When is the last time you saw an art book priced at more than $120? I mean, what did you pay for your 1000-page Rem Koolhaus book?

Note: any time she mentions labour costs on her Kickstarter breakdown, the numbers seem low. So, there's that, too.

That song Brad Paisley is playing is called "Huckleberry Jam."

well, she allows for a lot of money to go to her accountant

that string of the past 20 posts or so took away our collective right to criticize amanda palmer. sorry guys, we can't make fun of her anymore.

hahahaha

"I'm your dingleberry...."

http://puckeater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/doc-holiday1.jpg

Dingleberry Moon Delight

S,M,L,XL was going for about $90 at one point, iirc, but you can get it for like $50 on Amazon now.

Holy Shit

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/amandapalmer/an-evening-with-neil-gaiman-and-amanda-palmer

The Steampunkeratti

Well, shit, I guess if she knows her fans are willing to throw money at her, why not at this point? I think it kinda undercuts the whole kickstarter thing if someone starts to depend on it exclusively though. For me I get more excited about the brand new dudes with no name and no money that are trying to get their first project out into the world.

Wow.

decorative tardis + antique teakettle + victrola hat = ?

you could win a chapbook

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Friday, September 14, 2012 9:04 AM (1 hour ago)

underrated post

Yeah, man, too much Kickstarter does kind of spoil the premise. It's kickstarter, not Keepgoinger.

The thing that kinda bums me out about seeing these numbers is watching smart, talented, kickass people I know irl fail to get like the $8,000 they are looking for to do something worthwhile.

i'm really starting to despise kickstarter except when it acts as a pre-order for physical goods. i wonder how long people will keep giving money without getting rewards or solid evidence of completed projects before there is a backlash.

Someone should start Backlashstarter for exactly that purpose.

"for $10 you get login rights to an exclusive slamblog to vent your frustration"

This is basically my perfect business opportunity.

hey owen, i just shot you an email, can you write me back when you get a chance? my name at g4wk3r dot com.

max's open letter to Ówen P.

Hey Max, Owen Pallett irl doesn't really have anything to say "officially" other than what he posted on Amanda's tumblr. Please quote that as you like!

He did try and write you something else but it's just too touchy an issue for him to address officially and like he's got band practice in 10 minutes.

If you want to quote what user Ówen P has said here on Gawker, you can be my guest, but like, I don't mention any of your names outside this pool.

Sorry if it's a snarky response. I don't post anonymously here anymore because I wanted to stave off any temptations toward sock-puppeteering. But if my comments on ILM start becoming news, I'm gonna retreat back to the "OMG I love Carly Rae!" style of posting that I usually rock

ok

thanks man

didnt mean to make you feel uncomfortable! i wouldnt use the stuff you write here, dont worry

one poster on notable EW-praised music critic forum ILX had this to say

"I'm really not so sure about this whole Amanda Palmer kickstarter deal," remarked Illinois policeman Uncle Shavedlongcock

omg my day is made

ditto

dying

Uncle Shavedlongcock declined to comment.

He dribbled out some thoughts.

i'm really starting to despise kickstarter except when it acts as a pre-order for physical goods. i wonder how long people will keep giving money without getting rewards or solid evidence of completed projects before there is a backlash.

― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, September 14, 2012 1:20 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm already scheming to make my career by pioneering the kickstarter fraud class action lawsuit.

do you need a website? I could do a Kickstarter to fund the server costs

I have a long story about how insidious kickstarter really is that I can really only tell in person, but the short version is, there's a new state-of-the-art facility around here that has literally the most outrageous daily rates in the country, and when you hear the rate & flinch, they start explaining to you how kickstarter has revolutionized artists' ability to fund their projects, and you can have higher donors maybe come and watch you as you record, etc

v. depressing shit

neil gaiman is mad @ me on twitter and i don't know how to respond

haha really?

wedgie?

tell him you loved "Good Omens"

(but mostly for the Pratchett parts)