rolling regional thug thread 2012

& RIP Mathew, so sad.

Or when pac said fuck quincy jones or w/e

http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/011919.html

^^jessica hopper. i really liked this. but it's more just about chicago the city in general than keef. but i liked it. and one of our own makes a cameo saving raver children.

but it's kind of a sad piece. i don't know enough about chicago to say, but i expect she does.

i think one of the things that happens when everyone focuses on the horrors of chicago is that people aren't giving credit to the artist for effectively capturing that vibe. i don't believe that keef's music is interchangeable with anyone else's in chicago, and i think what he did is original & SINGULAR. you don't have to like it, but claiming that he's just a lotto winner, as rhymefest has, is problematic b/c it completely eliminates any sense of agency from the artist, as if his music wasn't a craft or as if he hadn't done something to build his acclaim; it's as bad as people who like him b/c they see him as a ghetto caricature (even if his intentions might appear more noble). or that its just about white hipsters elevating fetish for authenticity. Authenticity issues are unquestionably wrapped up in it, but there are plenty of 'authentic' artists who aren't receiving a fraction of the attention he has.

so anyway, i just think it's important to emphasize that his music has clearly ~done something~ that is moving people, even if lex is not one of them.

not meant to be a dig at lex, btw, i just was using him as an example of someone for whom it hasn't resonated.

(even if Rhymefests intentions might appear more noble) is how that paranthetical should read

it's not doing a ton for me. it's more interesting in the light of all this stuff i've read. but it gets kinda tedious and it doesn't really have the energy of like a waka which at least kept my attn from flagging.

oh i dont think his tape was as good as flocka's or anything, ive said this before, but i think that a handful of his tracks had the kind of gravitational pull where it makes sense to me that he got the attention he has

This isn't rap beef. This is gang beef in a rap setting. If you want to see something really depressing, you can trawl around social networks and find the same kinds of shockingly cold-blooded videos and tweets going back and forth between gangbangers who don't have burgeoning rap careers or anything else that would cause anyone from outside the neighborhood to care—the kind of young people who turn into nameless weekend-fatality statistics. They don't even get any music out of it.

https://twitter.com/FREDOSANTANA300/status/243759089841225728

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NeUBCF6d2E

this makes me feel better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhRuFhcfTK8&hd=1

R.I.P. Matthew. So fucking sad.

hes getting tagged by wellwishers & every time it pops up in my fbook feed i think oh whats he up to & then im like ughh again

this is pretty shitty, i never met him but i felt like i knew him. we had mutual friends, interacted online fairly often, i listened to his podcast all the time. smart, incredibly knowledgeable dude

That "My Activator" track is great.

the whole album is really something too. for me dude hits the right balance of cold menace and internet weird. also the production is pretty flat out awesome

yeah, album is nice.

100s shit is great

Yes it is, DLd it based on the cover art connection w Snoop and have been really liking it.

forks - i was cordially introduced to eugene of oxbow and he was really nice. we had a nice conversation, and then i asked what he was doing next and he said "i have to go back to san francisco to be in an orgy"

hahahaha, see this is what i'm talking about

Uh.
http://pitchfork.com/news/47761-retracting-the-chief-keef-selector-video/

durk & reese no longer listed on the def jam website. smh

Fuck all these people washing their hands right now.

oh never mind apparently thats just a twitter rumor -- they were never added to the website

fuck twiter basically

Fuck Twitler

https://twitter.com/Chuckisdope/status/243983838907355137

this is the realest shit tho

releasing a rap album through Mountain Dew, that shit is a pyramid scheme

i think thats a good point about how this instant fame stuff is basically the media stroking stories for hit counts

http://instagram.com/p/PUtsajQkGL/

this whole thing is depressing. i feel stuck between a rock & a hard place; either i'm copping out now by not weighing in after being involved in saying this was important to talk about, or if i do address this stuff, having an opinion is pointless b/c people will just assume im doing it for careerist reasons, to justify my own work's importance or whatever.

im leaning towards not participating in any of it, but its a lose lose.

yeah most of the people talking about this seem like rubberneckers who were writing epic odd future essays 2 years ago, probably best to stay out of it unless you feel really confident that you have something to say that needs to be expressed

i think its your job to clear up misunderstandings and falsehoods whenever you can; even if its just repeating Raymer saying "This isn't rap beef. This is gang beef in a rap setting."

And then burying your face in your hands and then going, "Ugh, just fuck you."

I mean ... it's the sun-times

Its not just that although theyre contributing in a big way. Its the entire environment has this really charged, negative feeling. People are throwing barbs all over, blaming journalists for covering it, a lot of finger pointing. Idk what they are even looking for at this point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO8P8amNaX4

/shillin'

immortal technique came out too

are you involved with booking the well? do over was a good time yesterday, if you had anything to do with that

Im the pr flak there. Glad u enjoyed do over. Who were the guest djs? Didnt make it out.

i know nickodemus and rich medina both played. unfortunately i had to leave a bit early because i needed some vegetarian grub and there was no re-entry.

they had bbq seitan! and grilled cheese!

haha ok, not gonna tell that to the person i made leave with me

from A-1 'Thurl'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akcF-Nx6IKQ

thats cool, i prefer this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N35UuE_wmW0

me 2, was gonna post it as well.

maybe idk that much about ratchet but i really like the yg/dj mustard tape '400 Hunnid Degreez'