rolling regional thug thread 2012

i wouldn't really say they were 'after' keef based on that link.

Perhaps not. Just looks like trouble is coming from every direction right now. Who knows how Interscope are reacting to this.

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this is cool enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMUwsVR13Po

This song has grown on me.

ya those keef tweets are def brutal OTOH, like, not trying to say he's not a major asshole, i mean like how much death have these guys experienced in their lives? a lot more than i have i'm guessing! not to say that it's still not jarring but it's prob well documented that like, ppl who go to war develop a certain indifference to what was originally so horrifying to them -> sense of humour about it

the way i think to argue abt it that doesnt make one sound like a heartless moral relativist, i think, is that in certain communities life has been so devalued that someone's death -- esp someone who seems to have decided to cash in on a death wish -- becomes a punchline. its wild how keef has become a fall boy for an entire culture.

also wtf https://twitter.com/RHYMEFEST/status/243512317894094848 at implying someone is a murderer on twitter

rhymefest?

idk this entire thing is sickening. i think the behavior of most internet talking heads on this is unforgiveable but this is one of those areas where being strident feels really inappropriate, like we're all standing right over this faultline of where serious questions should be asked & ppl should start taking responsibility for what they endorse & promote & instead everyone is getting MORE self righteous. some of the schadenfreude & "i told you so"s about the death of a teenager are sickening

otm

social media is a horrible fucking blight sometimes

sometimes i think a good way to roll through life is to pretend twitter and comment sections and social media don't exist, but then against they're everywhere and super-ingrained w/most folks' lives so....

twitter.com/bdotTM/status/243740037731205120

O_O

yeah

rhymefest's twitter feed is now at fake shore drive

*going at

even before this whole jojo thing happened i've been kinda confused why the whole industry is wringing its hands about chief keef in a way they didn't about, i dunno, lil scrappy or whatever

yeah. i mean lil boosie is far from a "respected" rapper on a grand scale but he sat accused of murdering someone and bragging about it in a song and no one seemed to say much except FREE BOOSIE.

i understand that this is more visceral for various reasons but the blowback has been so forceful

yeah true

the multiple boosie shoutouts on the new khaled album were kind of strangely heartwarming to me

did boosie really do it?

no he was acquitted

but nobody knows if keef or reese were involved with this

that was a side question, i didn't really follow the whole thing closely and i didn't know if he was actually innocent or if it was just the kneejerk impulse to "FREE [Insert Rapper that got arrested]"

though yeah in this case it seems like the first time popular opinion in the rap community is on the side of the law....the horrible gloating tweets being the main difference i would imagine

i'd venture that keef's internet following is way greater than boosie's
also social media gets more ridiculous every year; i imagine by 2016, the news cycle will snap in half and we'll all need direct feed. for the moment it just means that when celebrities weigh in on murders in a public setting it is certainly gonna set off general madness

^this and also there's so much focus on all this Chicago crime at the moment. Kinda seems like this partic killing put a name to it all and people are running with it.

this whole thing is so grim :(

jessica hopper just retweeted this, a better look at it:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2012/09/06/lil-jojo-and-the-blame-game

yeah that's a good post

that was a side question, i didn't really follow the whole thing closely and i didn't know if he was actually innocent or if it was just the kneejerk impulse to "FREE [Insert Rapper that got arrested]"

though yeah in this case it seems like the first time popular opinion in the rap community is on the side of the law....the horrible gloating tweets being the main difference i would imagine

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:27 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i suspect he did, btw

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/September-2012/Coming-to-Terms-With-Chief-Keef/

in also-grim news, DJ Matthew Africa died in a car accident on Monday. I just ... fuck man.

he did the stay hatin podcast, was a bay area rap dj. did the best of dj quik and best of e-40 mixes that i'm sure were linked around here. so tragic and horrible.

https://twitter.com/Traxster/status/243854513390358528

this shit is so intense. i need a break from rap internet

lol is that an explicit rhymefest diss?

if you have to ask its probably implicit, lol

got a tldr mass e-mail that opens with

This week a 16 year old boy in Chicago was shot and killed. Because of some online "rap beef" he had with someone affiliated with rapper Chief Keef.
This child was shot 17 times. And not only that, but his murderer and their whole crew and followers made cruel fun of his death.

and goes on to reference that old e-mail forward about the vast conspiracy to create gangsta rap as if's indisputable fact

real fact, btw: jojo was 18, and he was shot once iirc

yeah that was part of why i felt the need to share the ignorant 'wisdom'

thank god twitter didn't exist when snoop had his murder case.

& RIP Mathew, so sad.

Or when pac said fuck quincy jones or w/e

http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/011919.html

^^jessica hopper. i really liked this. but it's more just about chicago the city in general than keef. but i liked it. and one of our own makes a cameo saving raver children.

but it's kind of a sad piece. i don't know enough about chicago to say, but i expect she does.

i think one of the things that happens when everyone focuses on the horrors of chicago is that people aren't giving credit to the artist for effectively capturing that vibe. i don't believe that keef's music is interchangeable with anyone else's in chicago, and i think what he did is original & SINGULAR. you don't have to like it, but claiming that he's just a lotto winner, as rhymefest has, is problematic b/c it completely eliminates any sense of agency from the artist, as if his music wasn't a craft or as if he hadn't done something to build his acclaim; it's as bad as people who like him b/c they see him as a ghetto caricature (even if his intentions might appear more noble). or that its just about white hipsters elevating fetish for authenticity. Authenticity issues are unquestionably wrapped up in it, but there are plenty of 'authentic' artists who aren't receiving a fraction of the attention he has.

so anyway, i just think it's important to emphasize that his music has clearly ~done something~ that is moving people, even if lex is not one of them.

not meant to be a dig at lex, btw, i just was using him as an example of someone for whom it hasn't resonated.

(even if Rhymefests intentions might appear more noble) is how that paranthetical should read

it's not doing a ton for me. it's more interesting in the light of all this stuff i've read. but it gets kinda tedious and it doesn't really have the energy of like a waka which at least kept my attn from flagging.

oh i dont think his tape was as good as flocka's or anything, ive said this before, but i think that a handful of his tracks had the kind of gravitational pull where it makes sense to me that he got the attention he has

This isn't rap beef. This is gang beef in a rap setting. If you want to see something really depressing, you can trawl around social networks and find the same kinds of shockingly cold-blooded videos and tweets going back and forth between gangbangers who don't have burgeoning rap careers or anything else that would cause anyone from outside the neighborhood to care—the kind of young people who turn into nameless weekend-fatality statistics. They don't even get any music out of it.

https://twitter.com/FREDOSANTANA300/status/243759089841225728