rolling regional thug thread 2012

no one actually knows anything

ah ok.

it's more just depressing to me...like in the long view. i dunno, this shit just goes on and on and on. :(

better chicago rap related news : katie got bandz just dropped her tape : http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/18708/katie_got_bandz_bandz_and_hittaz.html

unbelievably terrible timing.

you really like that? like not trying to be a dick but jeez she is not good, like at all.

the production is kinda interesting in this horror movie clanging way, hmm :\

i like 2 of her singles & 'band dance' iirc.

havent heard the tape yet

She drops bangers, as simple as that, 'Throw yo sets up' is crazy.

really? also i thought they were the hot thing now.

i mean he def has a huge fanbase no doubt but he's a super divisive artist, even amongst 'tastemakers'. there's a lot of reaction on twitter like "get chief keef out of hip hop" or "chief keef is ruining hip hop" or whatever which i don't think would be the reaction if "respectable" artists were beefing and one of them got shot.

there's certainly other aspects to this of course, but yeah. a lot of people think chief keef is some huge media conspiracy or w/e.

Sisilifami, I'll take your word for it. This stuff is not to my taste.

This shit is out of control. rhymefest's twitter feed u_u

And the police are after Keef, apparently:

http://www.suntimes.com/14964520-761/lil-jojo-murdered-in-chicago-police-now-looking-at-chief-keefs-tweets-source-says.html

i wouldn't really say they were 'after' keef based on that link.

Perhaps not. Just looks like trouble is coming from every direction right now. Who knows how Interscope are reacting to this.

Emerging from the ether as mysterious as he is imposing, Ice Cold Perm is the debut album from Berkeley, CA rapper 100s.

Merely a reckless young black man in the eyes of a broken society, 100s has taken it upon himself to thrive. At 19 years old, he arrives a true student of the game: a living, breathing, smoking tribute to the long line of West Coast players.

Teaming up with local powerhouse producer, engineer and childhood friend Joe Wax (Turf Starz, Main Attrakionz, NhT Boyz, Lil Rue), Ice Cold Perm is laced with smooth slaps and icey raps, their unique chemistry taking listeners on a skewed ride through a young man's mind ... where the potency of your Activator is the currency of the realm.

http://dreamcollabo.bandcamp.com/album/ice-cold-perm-2

this is cool enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMUwsVR13Po

This song has grown on me.

ya those keef tweets are def brutal OTOH, like, not trying to say he's not a major asshole, i mean like how much death have these guys experienced in their lives? a lot more than i have i'm guessing! not to say that it's still not jarring but it's prob well documented that like, ppl who go to war develop a certain indifference to what was originally so horrifying to them -> sense of humour about it

the way i think to argue abt it that doesnt make one sound like a heartless moral relativist, i think, is that in certain communities life has been so devalued that someone's death -- esp someone who seems to have decided to cash in on a death wish -- becomes a punchline. its wild how keef has become a fall boy for an entire culture.

also wtf https://twitter.com/RHYMEFEST/status/243512317894094848 at implying someone is a murderer on twitter

rhymefest?

idk this entire thing is sickening. i think the behavior of most internet talking heads on this is unforgiveable but this is one of those areas where being strident feels really inappropriate, like we're all standing right over this faultline of where serious questions should be asked & ppl should start taking responsibility for what they endorse & promote & instead everyone is getting MORE self righteous. some of the schadenfreude & "i told you so"s about the death of a teenager are sickening

otm

social media is a horrible fucking blight sometimes

sometimes i think a good way to roll through life is to pretend twitter and comment sections and social media don't exist, but then against they're everywhere and super-ingrained w/most folks' lives so....

twitter.com/bdotTM/status/243740037731205120

O_O

yeah

rhymefest's twitter feed is now at fake shore drive

*going at

even before this whole jojo thing happened i've been kinda confused why the whole industry is wringing its hands about chief keef in a way they didn't about, i dunno, lil scrappy or whatever

yeah. i mean lil boosie is far from a "respected" rapper on a grand scale but he sat accused of murdering someone and bragging about it in a song and no one seemed to say much except FREE BOOSIE.

i understand that this is more visceral for various reasons but the blowback has been so forceful

yeah true

the multiple boosie shoutouts on the new khaled album were kind of strangely heartwarming to me

did boosie really do it?

no he was acquitted

but nobody knows if keef or reese were involved with this

that was a side question, i didn't really follow the whole thing closely and i didn't know if he was actually innocent or if it was just the kneejerk impulse to "FREE [Insert Rapper that got arrested]"

though yeah in this case it seems like the first time popular opinion in the rap community is on the side of the law....the horrible gloating tweets being the main difference i would imagine

i'd venture that keef's internet following is way greater than boosie's
also social media gets more ridiculous every year; i imagine by 2016, the news cycle will snap in half and we'll all need direct feed. for the moment it just means that when celebrities weigh in on murders in a public setting it is certainly gonna set off general madness

^this and also there's so much focus on all this Chicago crime at the moment. Kinda seems like this partic killing put a name to it all and people are running with it.

this whole thing is so grim :(

jessica hopper just retweeted this, a better look at it:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2012/09/06/lil-jojo-and-the-blame-game

yeah that's a good post

that was a side question, i didn't really follow the whole thing closely and i didn't know if he was actually innocent or if it was just the kneejerk impulse to "FREE [Insert Rapper that got arrested]"

though yeah in this case it seems like the first time popular opinion in the rap community is on the side of the law....the horrible gloating tweets being the main difference i would imagine

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:27 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i suspect he did, btw

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/September-2012/Coming-to-Terms-With-Chief-Keef/

in also-grim news, DJ Matthew Africa died in a car accident on Monday. I just ... fuck man.

he did the stay hatin podcast, was a bay area rap dj. did the best of dj quik and best of e-40 mixes that i'm sure were linked around here. so tragic and horrible.

https://twitter.com/Traxster/status/243854513390358528

this shit is so intense. i need a break from rap internet

lol is that an explicit rhymefest diss?

if you have to ask its probably implicit, lol

got a tldr mass e-mail that opens with

This week a 16 year old boy in Chicago was shot and killed. Because of some online "rap beef" he had with someone affiliated with rapper Chief Keef.
This child was shot 17 times. And not only that, but his murderer and their whole crew and followers made cruel fun of his death.

and goes on to reference that old e-mail forward about the vast conspiracy to create gangsta rap as if's indisputable fact

real fact, btw: jojo was 18, and he was shot once iirc