Maybe Glenn can run some stats comparing, but I'd assume the Decibel list was closest to ours.
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:14 (seventeen years ago)
rolling autogoon seems to nay say the idea, and given a bit of thought, I don't think it would be worth it this late, after so many lists, and people are warn out on 2008 lists etc.. Next year I will though.
Just check out that ABN record and the Guilty Simpson and you're set, really.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)
well they still said they would contribute a list, and im sure those who dont post on that thread would contribute too. That's what happened with this poll, a lot of the contributors werent rolling metal thread posters. Some were lurkers who i dont know on ilx. So this kind of email poll does get a decent turn out. 30 was more than I expected. A rap poll would get a lot more i reckon.You should give it a go, it will help get people discovering stuff they wouldnt always know about. As far as I can see only a few of the usual suspects will get in the ilx poll if P&J is anything to go by.I'd say have a go doing a rap poll!
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:16 (seventeen years ago)
Ok, fuck it. Tomorrow I'll start it up.
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:41 (seventeen years ago)
Metal Edge has 29 things that are in our top 100. Decibel and Terrorizer each have 25. Kerrang has 5.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:36 (seventeen years ago)
Interesting. Metal Edge has really changed since Phil took over as editor then. (As I said before Metal Edge isn't available in Smiths anymore despite it always having been until a year or so ago).
Not surprised at the lack of Kerrang stuff.
What about the top 50? How many are in that?
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 19:55 (seventeen years ago)
Metal Edge has 29 things in common because nearly all the writers for that magazine post here.
― Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:09 (seventeen years ago)
Well, Phil didn't vote as he said he forgot, I know you write for it but who else? (and don't you all write for Decibel too?) I only know of one Terrorizer writer here (who voted). Does Stevie Chick still write for Kerrang? (not that he voted as far as i'm aware)
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:16 (seventeen years ago)
Metal Edge, Decibel and Terrorizer each have a 21-allbum overlap with this poll's top 50. Terrorizer overlaps 15 with this poll's top 25, the other two 14.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:59 (seventeen years ago)
thanks for that Glenn!! Very interesting.Going to give this Cynic album a spin, it's on spotify. Quite handy! If you're on spotify then check out the albums from our poll that are on it(not licensed to usa/canada yet im afraid)
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)
Which ones are on it (if you already know it saves me doing 100 searches)?
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:34 (seventeen years ago)
I haven't looked. I just remembered Ned, I think it was saying, Cynic were a bit proggy. I'm surprised tho, no death metal at all. It's definitely prog metal with clean singing. Not what I expected at all.
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:37 (seventeen years ago)
Torche arent on it
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:38 (seventeen years ago)
Cheers, just found it, I'll give that a quick listen then see what else I can find. I did search for the other day and found a few of the artists but it was mostly older material.
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
xpost obv
I'll try make a playlist of what's on it but I dont expect many.
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:41 (seventeen years ago)
It's definitely prog metal with clean singing.
There's some growly and distorted stuff on there as well (on the second track). Allmusic review mentions falsetto as well - may as well get the full set...
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:45 (seventeen years ago)
I can see this growing on me. Not sure about the futuristic vocal distortions though (when I say futuristic I mean what counted as futuristic in 1982).
― onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
If there are other Terrorizer writers here they are very much on the downlow. I wouldn't say my tastes in metal are that typical of the other writers and/or what gets covered in the mag, anyhoo
― I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
All I could find in the top 50http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1KM6wdlCspiSE4YUk3i454
― the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:52 (seventeen years ago)
ILXors who write for Metal Edge: me, Ned Raggett, Adrien Begrand, Jeff T., Jonathan Lundeen, Matt Cibula, and Scott Seward did when I first took over but then he kinda faded out. I wish he'd come back.
― unperson, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:23 (seventeen years ago)
Thanks for the playlist pfunkboy I'll have a wee listen tomorrow if I get the chance.
― onimo, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:04 (seventeen years ago)
No problem Onimo. I found the Gojira very boring.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:16 (seventeen years ago)
Hey pfunk 100% serious- this time the jokes on me I guess
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:32 (seventeen years ago)
Well Grady, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 08:37 (seventeen years ago)
well i enjoyed the music more than your nerdy poll but still thanks dude <3
― gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:23 (seventeen years ago)
for comparison purposes, the rock-a-rolla top 40:
1. Harvey Milk – Life…The Best Game in Town2. Earth – The Bees Made Honey in the Lion’s Skull3. Melvins – Nude with Boots4. Dub Trio – Another Sound is Dying5. Asva – What You Don’t know is Frontier6. Grails – Doomsdayer’s Holiday7. Secret Chiefs 3 – Xaphan: Book of Angel8. Kayo Dot – Blue Lambency Downward9. Mike Patton – A Perfect Place10. Racebanon – Acid or Blood11. Torche – Meanderthal12. Portishead – Third13. The Mars Volta – The Bedlam in Goliath14. Lustmord – [Other]15. Zach Hill – Astrological Straits16. Steve Von Till – A Grave is a Grim Horse17. Ascend – Ample Fire Within18. Akimbo – Jersey Shores19. Conifer – Corown Fire20. Bohren & Der Club of Gore – Dolores21. Meshuggah – Obzen22. Philip Jeck – Sano23. UFOmammut – Idolum24. Wildildlife – Six25. Moha! – One Way Ticket to Candyland26. Helms Alee – Night Terror27. Mogwai – The Hawk is Howling28. Krallice – Krallice29. Jarboe – Mahakali30. Hey Colossus – Happy Birthday31. Merzbow – Anicca32. Gnaw Their Tongues – An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood33. Lucky Dragons – Dream Island Laughing Language34. Jucifer – L’Autrichienne35. Mothlite – The Flax of Reverie36. Boris – Smile37. No Age – Nouns38. Black Sun – Paralyser39. Subtle – Exitingarm40. Prurient – And Still Waiting
― m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:31 (seventeen years ago)
does anyone else find it interesting that "metalheads" be enjoying Portishead so?
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:43 (seventeen years ago)
It's not surprising. Esp as Geoff runs a doom/psych label.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:44 (seventeen years ago)
I had to draw the line at nominating them here though. Marnie Stern getting votes annoyed the troo metal nerds enough as it was.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:45 (seventeen years ago)
third is particularly heavy on the ominous. makes sense to me...
― m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:47 (seventeen years ago)
Also lots "metalheads" listen to other stuff than metal.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:53 (seventeen years ago)
ILX RAP POLL 2008 NOMINATIONS & DISCUSSION THREAD
Plz nominate.
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:11 (seventeen years ago)
Nice one. Cant nominate but I look forward to checking out some stuff!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 17:34 (seventeen years ago)
Krallice sound like Glenn Branca at times!
― Sundar, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
you should check out the ocrilim album, if you haven't already. branca-ness abounds.
― m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)
i guess i should check out some branca then, b/c i like the ocrilim.
― mte, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 00:12 (seventeen years ago)
You should.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:30 (seventeen years ago)
will do. any suggestions where to start?
― mte, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:25 (seventeen years ago)
autogoons called off the rap poll.
ah well.
ok, so I listened to a couple of records and thought "Hmm.. this is OK. I'll guess I will make it to the end of my week of metal and maybe check out rolling metal once every couple of months instead of never". But now I am listening to the Harvey Milk and really fucking enjoying it. So now I am wondering if the other records were just canon fodder to ease me in, if this is a 1 off or if I may actually really start liking this genre i'd written off forever?
So, what should I listen to next if like the Harvey Milk and Genghis Tron, not so much the Gojira and... umm, I still have no idea what I think of the more droney stuff. Nice in idea but actually a bit boring? Nice background music?
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:47 (seventeen years ago)
i don't like the Gojira disc either; too much breast-beating hardcore punk in the vocals.
the ones i've liked thus far, to one degree or another: theNachtmystium, Esoteric, Amon Amarth and Earth discs.
i didn't like the Torche very much (too remminicent of Helmet for my tastes bone-weary tastes), but i have the feeling you'd probably dig it. also, i found the Harvey Milk disc kinda annoying. go figure. next.
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:05 (seventeen years ago)
Cheers. I downloaded it the same time I got the others, and I'm sure i'll listen to it before the week ends.
One thing I'm going to do - I'm not going to listen to records with tacky, horrible, 'shock' covers. It's not shocking, it's just a bit lame and just feels me with no desire at all to listen to their records. Is this common with any metal fans and will I be missing out on anything so amazing that I should go against such a statement?
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:15 (seventeen years ago)
maybe too obvious, but if you liked the harvey milk, check out some melvins records. I really like the recent-ish (a) senile animal. two drummers, good times.
and check out the back catalogs! I like special wishes/dead mountain mouth better than the latest harvey milk/genghis tron records.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)
and it depends what you'd consider a "shock" cover. I don't recall anything too tasteless on this list, for example.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:19 (seventeen years ago)
i think that question would best be directed at the fine folks on the rolling metal thread (Scott Seward in particular; i'm pretty sure he's the kind of fellow who appreciates the truly tasteless cover art of some extreme metal discs).
xxp
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)
Ha, I just skimmed the thread and... didn't this used to have more albums on it? I dunno, covers with really limp "oh, look at all this blood/guts/crap like that, we are soooo shocking" bullshit. It just seems like such a shitty schtick to have, especially considering most people have grown accustomed to such a high tolerance of gore and what not.
Cheers on the recommendations though.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:25 (seventeen years ago)
(I mean, I understand, and hell, maybe even appreciate the proper death metal "hey, this is our guitarist's actual brains all over the floor" covers the same way I love the geto boys cover where bushwick bill has just been shot - but most of it is just a bit silly and totally puts me off wanting to listen to their music.)
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:27 (seventeen years ago)
it's a new thread (2009 edition). so there's really not that much to discuss/post jpg's of just yet. good for getting in on the ground floor, tho.
― Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:33 (seventeen years ago)
again i say cheers. i have bookmarked that bitch for the future.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:34 (seventeen years ago)
next up - rolling country.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:35 (seventeen years ago)