i have not heard the UNRELEASED single "single ladies (put a ring on it)" but its name makes it sound unnecessarily browbeating
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:49 (seventeen years ago)
Tracer Hand otm. "Get Me Bodied" is so euphoric.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:56 (seventeen years ago)
vocally, sure
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 15:57 (seventeen years ago)
"Get Me Bodied" is really euphoric in one critical spot that is totally awesome and massively overshadows everything else in the song. "Single Ladies" doesn't reach the same peak but the entire performance is more consistent, leading to a more satisfying listening experience; I want to dance the whole time I'm listening to it, whereas with "Get Me Bodied" I just want to fast-forward to the awesome bridge and then turn it off (unless I'm watching the video).
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:00 (seventeen years ago)
I like that "Get Me Bodied" is just a really energetic and catchy vocal over a brittle rhythm track that doesn't have any real melodic backing. I think "Single Ladies" would sound better that way, actually, I kind of hate that ominous synth line in the second half of the chorus, it really makes the whole browbeating vibe of the lyrics even more overbearing.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:06 (seventeen years ago)
I don't find the vocal line to "Get Me Bodied" to be particularly catchy considering most of it is monotone shouting.
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:07 (seventeen years ago)
One needed a video to get me hyped, the other didn't.
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, January 26, 2009 3:08 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^otm except for the opposite songs to you! really wasn't feeling 'single ladies' until the dance routine appeared and became this ubiquitous pop culture thing. really 'get me bodied' is just a better track, there's more variation in it and beyoncé rides the hiccupy beat better.
and the thing is, the video/dancing for 'get me bodied' is better than the video/dancing for 'single ladies'! the section from 2.5mins is A+ and i love how she breaks it down w/all the instructions in the extended version. v disappointed that "do the naomi campbell walk! the naomi campbell walk!" does not involve throwing swarovski-encrusted mobile phones at people though.
(bah non-embedded)
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:10 (seventeen years ago)
IMO there's a great tension and release thing going on when the kind of monotonous verses give way to the "why you standin' on the wall" part and then all the harmonies going on in the chorus and the bridge.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:11 (seventeen years ago)
haha I really really REALLY hate the "Single Ladies" dance routine and think the choreographer who came up with it should be taken out and shot in the knees (unless, as I suspect, it was actually done by a 10-year-old)
xp: I don't know, I just don't buy "Get Me Bodied" without the visual component. The whole song is brimming with energy but it just seems complacent to me until it hits the bridge. (Part of this may be because I think the best song on that album is "Ring The Alarm", which does a similar thing musically only with deranged lyrics, a siren and a completely out-of-left-field modal switch in the bridge.)
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:15 (seventeen years ago)
To me this is kind of a reverse David vs. Goliath thing...."Get Me Bodied" was a deep cut that got a lot of radio/club play and kind of became a sleeper hit and was eventually released as something like the 8th single off its album and didn't chart very hihg. Then "Single Ladies" comes out as a lead single from the next album sounding very similar but (in my opinion) not as good, and shoots to #1 everywhere and places high on critics' lists.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:17 (seventeen years ago)
"why you standin' on the wall"
i love how she gets all mystikal on that line
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:18 (seventeen years ago)
tbh I thought a lot of B-Day was incredibly half-assed. Most of the songs seemed unfinished, unfocused or confused and I wasn't as impressed with Beyonce's voice as I was when Dangerously In Love came out, so I wasn't handwaving things that irritated me about the way the songs were put together to luxuriate in her dulcet pipes (because really that's the only explanation for how hard I used to rep for "Naughty Girl"). I really liked "Deja-Vu", I LOVED "Ring The Alarm", and everything else... um. "Flaws and All" was nice...?
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:20 (seventeen years ago)
(full disclosure, I should really say "a lot of what I heard off of B-Day" because I never heard the full album due to hating the singles after "Ring The Alarm" so much)
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:22 (seventeen years ago)
idk it's a monotone but i love the tension of it all - it's so rigorous, it brooks no nonsense and never lets up, not even when the tension releases in the bridge - 'single ladies' by contrast feels a tad sloppy, probably because of that lurching synth line which i could really do without. (the bridge of 'single ladies' is definitely the least fun bit of the song.)
xps, yeah what al said
(i also think 'ring the alarm' is the best track on b'day but i don't see it as particularly comparable to 'get me bodied' - the arrangement might be similar but that's true of most of the album, and her rigorous dance instructor vocal approach to GMB is so different to the deranged scorned hellcat of RTA. though you might be able to tell me this, dan - i've always wondered wtf she is doing with her voice, technically, on the chorus of RTA, it sounds like there's lots of weird tonal shit going on but i don't know exactly what.)
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:25 (seventeen years ago)
I like that "Get Me Bodied" is just a really energetic and catchy vocal over a brittle rhythm track that doesn't have any real melodic backing. I think "Single Ladies" would sound better that way,
"single ladies" couldn't be much more minimal! i didn't realize just how minimal and amelodic the track is until i heard an instrumental though.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:26 (seventeen years ago)
anyway these are more reasons why 'get me bodied' is better:
- drop down low and sweep the floor with it- do the uh-oh, do the uh-oh, do the uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-oh-no-no- pat your weave, ladies, pat, pat, pat your weave ladies, watch it while he check up on it- tick, tick, tick-tick-fight- pose for the camera now, flick, flick- do an old school dance, an old school dance- stop! now cool off, cool off, drop! now cool off, cool off- wine it back girl, wine it back girl, make your hair touch the floor, wine it back girl- drop to your knees, arch your back girl, shake, shake it like that alleycat- shake your derrière in them dereons- do the scissorleg, touch your heel touch your toes, do the scissorleg- do the naomi campbell walk! the naomi campbell walk! walk across the room like naomi campbell!- snap for the kids, snap for the kids, snap for them suckas three times- touch your body while you touch my body, we touching bodies tonight
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:35 (seventeen years ago)
though you might be able to tell me this, dan - i've always wondered wtf she is doing with her voice, technically, on the chorus of RTA, it sounds like there's lots of weird tonal shit going on but i don't know exactly what.
It isn't actually that weird, harmonically; she's harmonizing a minor chord but it's in the second position, meaning that the root note of the chord (the main melody line) is in the middle, the fifth of the chord is below it (the second vocal line that comes in) and the minor third is on top (the last vocal line that comes in). It's considered to be a very unstable-sounding spelling of the chord because the fifth on the bottom wants to resolve down to the root; that's part of what adds to the tension and urgency of the choruses (the other being the nasal edge she puts on her vocals to really make them buzz through the sound-effects and the shrill synth chords).
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:40 (seventeen years ago)
it's "tick-tick-fight"? wtf. I could never figure out what she was saying there, my best guess was "take flight" but the move in the video didn't seem to correspond to that.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:44 (seventeen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_chord
for visual reference (2nd inversion pic)
there is a jump up to a respelling in the root position in there, too, that I never really noticed before
xp: It's absolutely "tick-tick-fight" as is made clear by the video
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:45 (seventeen years ago)
lol sorry that sounded snotty because I didn't see you'd mentioned the video
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
as an instrumental Single Ladies > Get Me Bodied which is merely percussion (because B is doing a lot more there than on SL(PAROI) sure). i tend to value production in this way and want the music to be as substantial as the vocals (if not more so). that is why i personally prefer Single Ladies.
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
really? the instrumental of "single ladies" doesn't really even make sense without the vocals, as great as the beat is.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:53 (seventeen years ago)
as an instrumental Single Ladies > Get Me Bodied which is merely percussion
lol this is like saying "the beat to 'Grindin'' is merely percussion"
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:05 (seventeen years ago)
"merely percussion" makes a backing track
― a good ole fashion ass whoopin, wow (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:08 (seventeen years ago)
I meant a great backing track, but whatever
i dont mind that its so minimal although beyonce isnt exactly the type of melodicist that can make you forget how minimal it is.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:23 (seventeen years ago)
single ladies sounds really minimal to me. in a way i like it but i could do with more synths.
― Surmounter, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:26 (seventeen years ago)
the instrumental of "single ladies" doesn't really even make sense without the vocals, as great as the beat is
so how much less sense does 'get me bodied' make without vox?
'Grindin' had the drip-drop melodic thing at least
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:31 (seventeen years ago)
when DJs use the instrumental as a music bed to just play out or talk over on the radio, i think "Get Me Bodied" sounds a lot better and still sounds danceable.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:32 (seventeen years ago)
grindin was a hip hop track though - you dont necessarily need much melody for a hip hop beat.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:33 (seventeen years ago)
in fact the less melody, the better.
that's what i'm saying, single ladies isn't much less minimal than get me bodied, except for the bridge! there are more synths but they're basically being used as percussion sounds.
xp
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:34 (seventeen years ago)
If you're not hearing Beyonce in the context of hip-hop pop, I have no idea how you're hearing her.
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:35 (seventeen years ago)
it's weird, i totally love the "single ladies" backing track when it's working with the vocal, but it's almost annoying as an instrumental. whereas "get me bodied" just sounds like any ol' beat.
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)
that is the context im hearing her, but id like to hear her in more of a pop context than a hip hop one ;)
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:36 (seventeen years ago)
but being synths they increase the sound palette, puncutate as events and crucially are a bit more inspiring than looped handclaps (xposts). at least that's the kind of sound i'm more into - irrespective of what's on top of that vocally.
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:38 (seventeen years ago)
tbh when the first whirring synths come in on Single Ladies it reminds me of a sound from early 90s Amiga game S.W.I.V. and that is probably the #1 reason i heart it
― Bondzilla vs Mechaholmes (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:40 (seventeen years ago)
those synths remind me of a david lynch movie, the darkness
i just love that part so much
― Surmounter, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:40 (seventeen years ago)
the handclaps make me think of some sweaty, friendly afterhours club, so i like them a lot
"get me bodied" also sounds to me like a coming-out gay anthem with its feeling of liberation, the joyful shout outs about being yourself, letting go, finally just getting out there and being you.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:51 (seventeen years ago)
sub-question: which of these songs shoehorns in a mention of House of Deréon more awkwardly?
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:54 (seventeen years ago)
I don't think I've noticed the Dereon mention in "Single Ladies", so the other one. "Ring the Alarm" probably wins on that score, tho.
― The Reverend (rev), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:27 (seventeen years ago)
― lex pretend, Monday, January 26, 2009 10:35 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
reasons why single ladies is better:
- it has a chorus
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:31 (seventeen years ago)
get me bodied has a chorus!
― horseshoe, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:32 (seventeen years ago)
to be less trolly: i think there's a reason why single ladies is/was huge and get me bodied was just a deep cut and that's because the single ladies chorus is really immediate and noticeable and forceful (helped by the way it double tracks when it comes back around)
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:34 (seventeen years ago)
"Single Ladies" definitely has more of a big major lead single hit event song vibe, and in that sense I understand why it's a bigger song, but it also contributes a bit to my dislike for it.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:36 (seventeen years ago)
for that matter, I dislike a lot of her/DC's lead singles (Deja Vu and Lose My Breath especially) for their kind of stifling lead-singley-ness.
― some dude, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:37 (seventeen years ago)
yeah i've been ambivalent at best at every big beyonce single before "single ladies" that i can remember aside from "irreplaceable", and aside from me being an unrepentant tricky/dream stan, this one seems way less canned than those (esp. "lose my breath" ugh) and genuinely not-of-the-times in terms of top 40, even tho it is immediately a rewrite of some b'day shit
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
"get me bodied" also sounds to me like a coming-out gay anthem with its feeling of liberation
weird, this reading never occurred to me - lyrically i can see it but the beat and b's performance are so tense and rigid, it's all about not stepping out of line to me, about working and working and working to get the moves right, even in the middle 8. actually this is the key difference between sasha fierce and her previous uptempo work to me, the sasha fierce tracks are coded much gayer (even 'single ladies', check the no of youtube gays doing the dance as evidence) - it's her drag queen alter ego, really.
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:40 (seventeen years ago)
It's weird to me how "If I Were a Boy", which kinda screems "3rd single -- Now we are entering the Ballad Zone" took off before "Single Ladies" did.
― The Reverend (rev), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:41 (seventeen years ago)
lex otm about drag queen alter egos
― The Reverend (rev), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
maybe you should watch the video for <a href=";>"bye bye bye"</a> again
― da croupier, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:14 (seventeen years ago)
d'oh
btw lex what would be the best video from "i am..."? no way it's IIWAB
'diva' > 'if i were a boy' > 'single ladies' >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'halo'
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:15 (seventeen years ago)
Thank you, croup. Sorry for the blatant pulling of rank, but as likely the only paid choreographer on ILM, DP is mad incorrect about that (although I agree about Bey getting away with not being a tremendously great dancer on the basis of hot). I'll go into more detail when I can watch youtube.
― The Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:16 (seventeen years ago)
hahahaha yes okay I think I completely conflated the "Making The Video" episode with the actual video, plus I conflated the dancing in "Bye Bye Bye" with the dancing in "Pop" and the dancing on "So You Think You Can Dance"
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:24 (seventeen years ago)
so basically there's one move they do in the cube that I thought was cool and the rest of it makes "Single Ladies" look like "Swan Lake"
― Barack You Like A Husseincane (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 18:28 (seventeen years ago)
Britney - pick any dance video pre: "Gimme More"'NSync - Bye Bye Bye, PopJanet Jackson - pick a video, any video (except "Love Will Never Do (Without You)")Usher - pick a video, any video (esp "My Way", "Caught Up", "U Don't Have To Call")Xtina - "Dirrty", "Candyman", "Come On Over"Madonna - pick a video, any videoMichael Jackson - pick a video, any videoMissy Elliott - "Work It", "Pass That Dutch", "Lose Control", "Ching Ching"
Hmm... I defer to you, I don't know anything about good dance vs. bad dance. But excluding a couple of Madonna videos, I'd take "Single Ladies" over all of these.
― Owen Pallett, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)
i just realized that "get me bodied" sounds a lot like sean paul, at least for the beats and the choruses - i've never seen the video but i actually picture it all happening down in that ad-hoc basement dancefloor in the "get busy" video. it's like beyonce finally decidced to turn up afterhours, after putting some facetime in at the sleek superclubs
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 10:52 (seventeen years ago)
owen is right about the single ladies video. the whole thing is just as great on snl too btw
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 10:56 (seventeen years ago)
btw rev you're a paid choreographer? dope
I still think that Beyonce's finest dancing moment was her bust-pump during the Sean Paul rap in the VMA performance of "Baby Boy" back in 2003.
My housemates and I spent some time trying to perfect that.
"Single Ladies" is pretty close though. It's the monomania of the video clip's focus on her dancing that pushes it so far.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:03 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah also rev I now worship my idea of you.
actually the best beyonce dance is the one where she smacks her head like she has an itchy weave. there is a clip of it in this hilarious video by rich of four four fame
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:10 (seventeen years ago)
wow perfect preview point
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:11 (seventeen years ago)
this one?
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:13 (seventeen years ago)
really sean paul couldn't make it out for the vmas huh?
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:21 (seventeen years ago)
at least for the beats and the choruses
sorry, meant to say beats and VERSES
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 11:32 (seventeen years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 29 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)
ha!
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 January 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)
too many people drinkin the koolaid
― miss precious perfect (musically), Thursday, 29 January 2009 00:51 (seventeen years ago)
― Tim F, Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:03 AM Bookmark
My life isn't that awesome. I am, after all, an interweb nerd.
― punk floyd (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:07 (seventeen years ago)
i meant to post this earlier, but i was really just hoping "Bodied" would get at least half as many votes as "Single," so this is cool with me.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 January 2009 05:15 (seventeen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIr8-f2OWhs
INDIE WINS!!!! GUITARS!!!!
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:00 (sixteen years ago)
SO AMAZING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-GssCjko1Q
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)
that is p seamlessly done musicwise
― david foster ballaz (m bison), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 17:43 (sixteen years ago)
omg is there an mp3? ysi?
― I request "Fireflies" (dyao), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:10 (sixteen years ago)
dirpy.com
― How to Make an American Quit (Abbott), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 01:48 (sixteen years ago)
wonderful
― I request "Fireflies" (dyao), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 02:20 (sixteen years ago)
http://craphound.com/images/beyonceblocked.jpeg
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 27 March 2010 15:06 (sixteen years ago)
didn't put my video mash-up of Single Ladies over FlyLo's 'Melt!' on YT because figured it would be taken down quickly but here's an mp3
― mdskltr (blueski), Saturday, 27 March 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
Congratulation to Beyonce
― it is just like an unknown puzzle till the end of the world (dyao), Saturday, 27 March 2010 15:59 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9eL3ejXmE
DAMN, KILT HIS DREAMS
― fuck in rainbows, ☔ (dyao), Sunday, 11 April 2010 16:03 (sixteen years ago)
haaaaa
― tbrrprint (2) HD (zvookster), Sunday, 11 April 2010 16:13 (sixteen years ago)
loooool
― a clever pun involving Plies or Waka Flocka Flame (The Reverend), Sunday, 11 April 2010 21:16 (sixteen years ago)
:D
― k3vin k., Sunday, 11 April 2010 21:19 (sixteen years ago)
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj21/Yukant_Seame/u-mad1.jpg
― am0n corner (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 April 2010 21:19 (sixteen years ago)
would totally kiw that family tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjehii-jjHE
― max, Thursday, 13 May 2010 06:47 (sixteen years ago)
someone sent this to me and I watched it, now my youtube recommendations are all "since you watched little girls going hard," just an FYI
― musically, Thursday, 13 May 2010 20:33 (sixteen years ago)