reunion album please.
― wolves lacan, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)
voted 'inertia creeps' over 'group four'. so strange to see lex referring to this as such a winter album cuz it (and most triphop tbh) has always played as very much a summer album to me. not in that summery poppy way like the avalanches or free design or whatever but in the way the heat is unrelenting and engulfing and suffocating almost, that weary tension in the air.
― balls, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:01 (thirteen years ago)
OTM
― azaera, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:05 (thirteen years ago)
the last time i listened to this album was while driving through the desert at night (this summer)
my fav is "dissolved girl"
― teledyldonix, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)
"Teardrop" is not the House theme in the UK? Weird.
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
This was my 'exercise' album a decade or so ago so I always relate it to sweat. Never thought of it as cold.
― Moka, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
late night album, tired tension, release, and paranoia imo
― your native bacon (mh), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)
The end of Group Four was one of my absolute favorite bits of music for a while.
― aspiring barkitect (silverfish), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 04:18 (thirteen years ago)
This one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_ZoiR3vw0
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)
This is really difficult. I love the brooding bassline building up in Angel. Teardrop is great. Group Four is menacing and desperate. Risingson has that brilliant "toylike people make me boylike" verse. One of those four.
― I've been to Suffolk (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)
Looks like the title track is gonna lose out here. Which doesn't surprise me - a great tune hiding in the shadow of the track it precedes and the track it sounds like ("Group Four" and "Risingson" respectively).
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)
After watching too many seasons of House, I know my vote won't be for "Teardrop".
The sad thing is I used to really love this song, but now it annoys because of House.
― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)
all these half votesx-post
― your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
This makes me glad I've ever seen house, as a world where teardrop is diminished would suck hard
― backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)
"never" that is
― backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 September 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)
Never seen House either. Only instances I recall right now of songs off this album being used in films are:
Dissolved Girl - The Jackal, MatrixAngel - Snatch, π/Pi :order of chaosInertia Creeps - Collateral
I'm sure there's many more. Wikipedia has a list but I'm sure it's missing half of them (Collateral and Pi are missing per example). There were a couple of years were it felt like library music for Hollywood producers to choose from. I got afraid it would kill the joys of this album.
― Moka, Thursday, 6 September 2012 03:45 (thirteen years ago)
Here's imdb's list. More complete:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1039315/
I don't see Collateral's use of Inertia Creeps in there. I was almost certain it played in a bar scene. I must be mixing it with something else.
― Moka, Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)
In other things, for a long long time I misheard 'Man Next Door' lyrics as:
He gets in so late at nightAlways a fuzzing fart
Which sucks because the song has one of my favorite basslines in the album but the lyrics were stupid to me... kept thinking the song was, literally, about an old man farting so loud that he kept his neighbors awake and while I found it kind of funny it seemed completely inappropriate and out of place with the rest of the album.
― Moka, Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:08 (thirteen years ago)
I swear Horace Andy pronounces 'Fight' as 'Fart'.
― Moka, Thursday, 6 September 2012 04:09 (thirteen years ago)
Always heard it as "always a fussy fart", like some old grandpa who returns from his card game at 11pm and starts demanding someone prepare him dinner and clean up the mess in the bathroom.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 September 2012 05:09 (thirteen years ago)
Most common TV usage here is as background mood music for investigative journalism pieces on our govt-owed broadcaster re the decline of some rare type of coral or the perils of low doc lending.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 September 2012 05:12 (thirteen years ago)
To think that I lay next to youWasting time when I could doA simple job in strip lights
This has always struck me as one of the most quietly desperate lyrics ever written.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 September 2012 09:25 (thirteen years ago)
Side B trumps side A in much the same whay as on 'Disintegration' and for the same reason I find itd ifficult to single out a track from teh 2nd half - anyway Black Milk or title track for me.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 6 September 2012 09:42 (thirteen years ago)
I voted Angel, but giving it a second listen Group Four is the one that I wanted to replay the most.
― Moka, Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:21 (thirteen years ago)
Dissolved Girl for me, but Black Milk's not far behind. It's one of the few albums I will still comfortably listen to all the way through.
― gyac, Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)
Might have to go for Man Next Door as a perfect distillation of the album - dub + the Cure + paranoia. But then there's Risingson - I do love those rare tracks when 3D and Daddy G are rapping together.
I had to write a story recently about how this album was made and it's a marvel that it was finished at all. An utterly dysfunctional band at this point. There's an interesting quote from 3D at the time where he suggests that the security guard in Group Four was basically him - shunning friends and family to stay up all night working. Other fun facts: Mushroom allegedly tried to give an early version of Teardrop to Madonna and Angel started out as a cover of The Clash's Straight to Hell (with a Sex Gang Children sample) but they had to rewrite it when Horace refused to sing the word "hell".
― Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)
man next door is awesome to sing along to
― wolves lacan, Thursday, 6 September 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)
Hmmm... Maybe Risingson?
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 7 September 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)
which one had the creepiest video from this album?
best MA video is still Karmacoma
― your naïve bacon (mh), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)
LOL i always heard it as "fight" but now i'm never gonna be able to hear that song without hearing "fart", thanks yall
― teledyldonix, Friday, 7 September 2012 23:14 (thirteen years ago)
Angel started out as a cover of The Clash's Straight to Hell (with a Sex Gang Children sample) but they had to rewrite it when Horace refused to sing the word "hell".
tremendous
― mookieproof, Friday, 7 September 2012 23:32 (thirteen years ago)
he won't sing hell but he'll sing fart.
― jed_, Saturday, 8 September 2012 06:28 (thirteen years ago)
I'd forgotten about the evil squelchy bassline that comes in at 2.33 in Risingson. We have a winner.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 September 2012 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
Other fun facts: Mushroom allegedly tried to give an early version of Teardrop to Madonna
Ahem.
― R=J-L (Leee), Saturday, 8 September 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)
voted for 'man next door', but i really can't recall the second half of the record that good - what's the one with the guitar crescendo around the middle?
― rusty_allen, Monday, 10 September 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)
"Dissolved Girl" probably. "Group Four" has a guitar crescendo at the end.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 23:51 (thirteen years ago)
^^ just checked them quickly on youtube. it's 'dissolved girl' i was thinking about - never really cared that much about that tune, especially because of the guitar-bombast thing - same reason why i don't rate 'angel' as much as i should. i'm way more into massive attack when they're capturing the tension, not so much when it comes to releasing it in some sort of quasi-industrial frame.*
*which works in a live setting, tho.
― rusty_allen, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)
Not a fan of this album but I love "exchange" with the Isaac Hayes sample. Proto Quiet Village/Seahawks?
― blank, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)
"Dissolved Girl" isn't one of my faves on the album but I would have thought a lot of the point of the guitar dynamics there and elsewhere are about the tension/release dynamic as a whole rather than straight release - the way they let loose then rein it back in.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:17 (thirteen years ago)
^^ i understand that, and i feel you're right. for me, the main problem is probably the cruchy guitar sound itself and - in 'dissolved girl's case - the way it gives me some 90's industrial vibes when combined with that trampling rhythm.
one of the things i love about 'man next door' - besides horace andy's vocals, obv - is the way the overall "heaviness" of it is more implicit/subdued that shoved in your face, or something like that...
sorry for my bad english, dunno if i'm making any sense here.
― rusty_allen, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)
No that does make sense to me - I could definitely imagine finding their deployment of the dynamic heavyhanded.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)
when "angel" starts to "rock out", it gets really bad, imo. i think I'd like it better if it was more subtle with the "and here's the loud part" stuff. The big rock drums/distorted guitar is totally not necessary.
― blank, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)
I half expect one of the dudes from 311 to pop in
― blank, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:56 (thirteen years ago)
At the time of release Angel's rock out actually felt subtle and elegant when compared with 'electro-rock' songs by say, Chemical Brothers or Prodigy, per example.
― Moka, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
I know it's not an adequate comparison but I can't think of any albums from the time that sound like Mezzanine. Closest reference would be Maxinquaye and it feels like cheating.
― Moka, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)
Speaking about the music videos I prefer Karmacoma and Protection than the ones from Mezzanine, but the signing phetus baby of Teardrop still looks and feels mindblowing to me. Maybe I was too young at the time but that video made a heavy impression on me, a few days later I bought the album when I was around 13/14 just to listen to that song and it wasn't until a year later that I started actually listening to the rest of the songs. It changed my life. Sort of.
― Moka, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)
xxp I was there,, idk, it just sounds like bland alt rock to me
― blank, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 06:54 (thirteen years ago)
Dissolved Girl is much clunkier in its deployment of rock guitars that most of the rest of Mezzanine - there are guitars all over this album and they're mostly perfectly integrated within the record. Dissolved Girl just feels like a generic trip-hop record with a Beavis & Butthead riff awkwardly tacked on the end. There's a definite sag in the middle of the album but the beginning and end are so strong it doesn't matter too much.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 09:19 (thirteen years ago)
Matt OTM - Dissolved Girl's the worst by far.
― Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 09:28 (thirteen years ago)
"Angel" just reminds me of slow-moving black limousines passing through while people in suits stand around
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)
Hearing the “hunger mix” and the Massive Attack live cover of Bela Lugosi’s Dead has made it click how influential Bauhaus’ goth dub pieces were to Mezzanine.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2023 07:02 (two years ago)
I think 100th Window is Mezzanine's equal. It's a different chill for a different time - maybe it's just because I'm old enough to remember 2003 but not 1998 I don't know. But Special Cases (via a compilation or two) was known to be there during impressionable nighttime car rides so it has an instant evocativeness that pulls the rest of the album with it. Basically ineffable attachment I have to the album and its 'context' (my version).
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 11 August 2023 09:04 (two years ago)
I think the glacial stasis of 100th Wondow is a strength, not a weakness
― the new drip king (DJP), Friday, 11 August 2023 11:36 (two years ago)
otm
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 August 2023 12:00 (two years ago)
3D probably the one who has the most money thanks to his Banksy side gig.
I haven’t seen much online speculation about this in the last months, but I wonder if that is because everyone has already concluded that this is the case.
― Melomane, Friday, 11 August 2023 12:25 (two years ago)
My theory is that Banksy is not a single person. There’s probably three or four people working together as Banksy. Robert might be one of them.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:24 (two years ago)
Banksy is a collective formed by Robert Del Naja, Robin Gunningham and Prince Harry.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 11 August 2023 16:59 (two years ago)
yeah it must take a whole committee to create those genius works
― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 August 2023 17:03 (two years ago)
Harry on his own, i'll buy that