'Deconstructionist' Music

anyway who cares US MAPLE RULES
HATERS S THE D
BEER BONG

^machine of life

us maple are not alienating to their audience at all though, and i think both would polarize joe bloggs

or difficult. the average us maple guy rolls with nels cline and royal trux in his closet, so keepers of sacred flames whatevs

and probably albert ayler and anthony braxton and other stuff that sounds like us maple w/ jazz instruments

or at least the tricks that make it scan as difficult and alienating to yr mom

i don't think US maple were pushing further than the mummies. i think they were being obtuse for the sake of it. the mummies were giving it to the people, moving asses, wrecking parties. i respect that far more.

spacemen 3 were copying the stooges. then street hassle, then suicide. or something. i mostly liked the stooges, so i stuck with "o.d. catastrophe".

i am my mom, so...

spacemen 3 were copying terry riley

and mc5

and suicide and red krayola for sure so they knew their drone

US Maple are constructionist

The correct answer is Beach Boys 2012

otm

since negativland got a mention, i suppose the residents figure in here somewhere. resemble and seem to comment on rock music, but produce something that doesn't work properly. devo too. i can't get no.

does this impulse/approach exist much in pop genres outside rock & punk?

xp seems like you just did there

according to some critics it exists everywhere and at the core of all music

http://www.domesticviolenceseries.com/images/awareness.jpg

mel gibson?

listening to US maple

post back when they *surprise* you

beautiful picture

still not redeeming the fanciful rhetoric

it does, i agree! that's sort of the point. it sounds like rock music, but like rock music that's been undone at a basic level. it resembles, but does not function as. if you approach it with the idea that it's going to scratch the zz top itch, you'll likely be frustrated. alienation from apparent genre identity seem like a big part of the point. sure, it scratches the US maple itch for fans, and the dislocation itch for those interested in such things, but that doesn't reduce the extent to which they seem to be frustrating rock's basic impulses. same thing, really.

you could say this about pretty much all death metal - and black metal - and most rock bands on Atavistic or Skin Graft. I think what you mean is "rock that doesn't strictly adhere to permanent blues-based progressions in 4, yet is not prog."

i liked the skin graft ac/dc covers. they didn't sound 'deconstructed' as much as 'essentialized'?

i feel like wire is in the same category. no extraneous notes.

i insist that i'm talking about music that seems to establish a kind of love/hate relationship with a specific genre. music that is in some sense of that genre, yet remains openly hostile to or critical of it. deliberately sounding ruined, broken or wrong - not in a general sense, but with regard to contemporary in-genre expectations - is a big part of it, too. at this point i want to position devo's "satisfaction" cover as the exemplar.

though maybe the resident's "satisfaction" cover would be better

devo's 'head like a hole' cover seems more of a hostile commentary on the original than does 'satisfaction' though, even while sounding less altered.

i insist that i'm talking about music that seems to establish a kind of love/hate relationship with a specific genre. music that is in some sense of that genre, yet remains openly hostile to or critical of it. deliberately sounding ruined, broken or wrong - not in a general sense, but with regard to contemporary in-genre expectations - is a big part of it, too. at this point i want to position devo's "satisfaction" cover as the exemplar.

presumably Coltrane's "My Favorite Things" would work here too - this has been going on in music for a very long time, it's musical conversation, not deconstruction.

oh oh oh you know what fits your description dog latin is Harvey Milk, esp first two albums.

residents must be right! c'mon deconstructionists throw me a bone over heah

fuck yeah the residents for sure, was just looking for examples with less "this is for satire's sake"

devo

c90: (i can't get no) satisfaction

this u.s. maple band are okay but they're way less whatever than i thought they were going to sound

ok who edited the wiki

U.S. Maple was an American noise rock band. The group formed in Chicago in 1995. The band consists of Al Johnson (lead singer), Mark Shippy (guitarist), Pat Samson (drummer), and Todd Rittmann (guitarist) — who banded together with the intent of becoming the deconstructionists of rock and roll.

haha my moneys on Nakh

http://www.allmusic.com/album/long-hair-in-three-stages-mw0000181380

NABISCO NOOOOO

nabisco not otm

U.S. Maple plays deconstructo core not jazz
U.S. Maple is free from solos

What about math rock?

was going to mention yowie. they're like beefheart on steroids, kind of.

Matt P OTM on this thread.

I've never heard US Maple

Has anyone here heard Y. Bhekhirst? Really some of the most bizarre rock n roll you will ever hear in your life.

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/07/hot_in_the_airp.html

It sounds like they wrote out really simple arrangements and sent the musicians into different isolated rooms to record, and nobody could hear what anyone else was doing.

But in a good way!

like hitler and black dice and maryanne amacher having sex on acid in different rooms, in a really great way

The Monks, guys, the correct answer is the Monks.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:59 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Bingo! I started making a loosely-based-on-this-thread compilation this evening and I put some on it.

Devo's a good example too.

So far on this mix I've got US Maple, Pole, Emptyset, a repurposing of Duran Duran's 'Rio' by Bass Clef, 'Last Night At the Jetty' by Panda Bear (which I hear as a reassembled version of the Beach Boys' 'Kiss Me Baby'), The Monks, Holy Modal Rounders, Scritti, Pere Ubu, 'Ccec' by Autechre, Black Dice 'Shithouse Drifter' followed by an early track 'Studdered' and STL's 'Rainwalker'.