Fleetwood Mac: Classic or Dud

<I>The producers are such doofuses here. "I hear a hit!" "I smell a Grammy!" "Let's make some magic!" "Let's kick some ass!"</I>

Haha, yes, the behind the scenes stuff and the delving into the specifics and mechanics of making the record are terrific, but after reading the book there's little doubt that someone as corny and silly as Ken Caillat fathered someone as dull as Colbie Caillat. (Who gets mentioned in the book far more than an editor should have let him get away with.)

xpost I'm not forgiving Buckingham his alleged abuses, or defending him. But if I'm being honest, I don't really know how to process the information, which so far has dribbled out in passing in belated behind the scenes books, one of which is a chronicle of an admittedly mutually self-destructive relationship fueled by copious hard drug use. I guess I'm not surprised. For all I've read and seen of similarly mutually self-destructive co-dependent drug user tales, any number of abuses seem par for the course. God knows, given the standard rock star treatment of women as documented countless times in books, movies, documentaries, article and, yes, law suits, amplified by excessive drugs, power and other perks of fame that accord the illusion of invincibility, I'd be shocked if physical abuse of some sort was not a common occurrence in rock star relationships. Because verbal and mental abuse sure seems to be a mainstay.

Again, not a defense. I'm just surprised more stories like hers regarding other musicians haven't made the rounds. Has Stevie ever alleged abuse? Anne Heche?

Wow, looking at reviews of her book on Amazon, which run the gamut (as usual), I found a comment from Jeremy Spencer! Who proceeds to get in a back and forth with her!

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2ID24GLLQB6U8/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1556526601&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#wasThisHelpful

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec/04/fleetwood-mac-plan-world-tour-2013

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

Sweet. Please play near my house.

saw them last time they were in london, amazing (obviously) but man i would love it if christine was there

I wouldn't mind another 'Mac album, actually... it's been a good few years since the last one!

irredeemable dud, but "tell me lies" takes me back to the 80s, when my mom would have this terrible soft-rock radio station on after picking me up from swim practice.

Get out of here

poliopolice with fake troll cool shit

"Mick Fleetwood VIP Experience"

Ticket in First 5 Rows
VIP Entry to Venue
VIP Host for the Evening
Meet & Greet with Mick Fleetwood
VIP Q&A with Mick Fleetwood onstage at his Drum Kit
Personal Photo with Mick Fleetwood
Mick Fleetwood VIP Laminate
- $425

Ticket in the First 20 Rows
VIP Entry to Venue
VIP Host for the Evening
Meet & Greet with Mick Fleetwood
VIP Q&A with Mick Fleetwood onstage at his Drum Kit
Personal Photo with Mick Fleetwood
Mick Fleetwood VIP Laminate
- $375

I do not want to meet Mick Fleetwood but I very much do want to be in the first few rows, what to do?

Ticket in the First 50 Rows
VIP Entry to Venue
VIP Host for the Evening
Meet & Greet with Mick Fleetwood
VIP Q&A with Mick Fleetwood onstage at his Drum Kit while he soundchecks
Personal Photo with Mick Fleetwood
Mick Fleetwood VIP Laminate
- $325

I do not want to meet Mick Fleetwood but I very much do want to be in the first few rows, what to do?

...get an amex

just picked up a nice vinyl copy of future games this week. what a great record...title track is absolutely stunning

yep. listening to mystery to me right now - the sleeper years (bet green and buck/nicks) are a gift that keeps giving

I realised today that "Isn't It Midnight" is like The Cure's Disintegration played at the wrong speed.

and with one extra riff

I'm getting sticker shock at the prices of tix for this tour so far. I realize Lil Stevie told us, years ago, that she didn't want to be a cleaning lady, so I shouldn't be surprised, but still... yikes.

It'll be my only arena show in ages, and probably their last go at this, so will bite the bullet.

Christine or GTFO for me, yep.

I thought the acronym was GYOW.

I feel you, though.

is there anything more glorious than the end to this performance? buckingham's vocal

http://youtu.be/XoMWa3jRtLo?t=3m47s

man that's straight-up fire

lmfao i had no idea "little lies" was by fleetwood fucking mac until today, wtf i though that was tiffany or smthn

Excellent performance. This reissue is moving towards essential territory now, sadly.

lmfao i had no idea "little lies" was by fleetwood fucking mac until today, wtf i though that was tiffany or smthn

The arrangement boasts too many off-kilter filigrees (those breathy "close my close my close my eyes" harmonies, the synthesized chimes) to confuse it for Tiffany!

Well it's not the remasters of Mirage and Tango in the Night that we've been waiting for, but how about a Rumours 4-CD/1-DVD/1-LP Super Deluxe Edition and, amazingly enough, a separate 3-CD version for people who already own the 2004 2-CD reissue?

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/fleetwood-mac-rumours-super-deluxe-edition-6-disc-box-set/

i really wish this deluxe edition trend would stop

i guess that you tube studio footage comes from an unreleased doc that is in the set! woo hop!! (my bank account is a deluxe box set sieve, sad but true)

woo hoo i meant

20 Sept Dublin, Ireland - O2 Dublin
24 Sept London, UK - O2 Arena
29 Sept Birmingham, UK - LG Arena
1 Oct Manchester, UK - Manchester Arena
3 Oct Glasgow, UK - The Hydro
6 Oct Cologne, Germany - Lanxess Arena
7 Oct Amsterdam, Netherlands - Ziggo Dome
9 Oct Antwerp, Belgium - Sport Palais
11 Oct Paris, France - Bercy
13 Oct Zurich, Switzerland - Hallenstadion
14 Oct Stuttgart, Germany - Schleyerhalle
16 Oct Berlin, Germany - O2 World
18 Oct Herning, Denmark - Jynske Bank Boxen
20 Oct Oslo, Norway - Oslo Spektrum
23 Oct Stockholm, Sweden - Globen
25 Oct Helsinki, Finland - Hartwall Areena

that would be swell, except

Price Range
£88.00 - £137.50

D:

I was fretting over that at lunchtime, and could only conclude that even at £137.50 this still has to be done.

it is great testament to my love of them that i'm torn on whether or not to exceed my usual ticket price limit by um 1000%, but i think i'll end up coming out on the 'no' side.

Hm, looking at it that way ... my mistake may be in using Arsenal tickets as a reference point.

tempted...!

jesus. i'd love to. i'd so love to. but that's just too expensive for my budget.

But they may never tour again! Except they probably will. But they may lose an essential member! Except they already have. I'm going, but if I were to make a recommendation, I would say just catch Lindsey solo.

How much did Lindsey solo cost? What kind of venue?

If Christine was involved I'd probably bite the bullet and accept my summer of eating nothing but Tesco Value beans.

xpost I didn't pay, but I know it was much less than seeing the Mac in an arena, and he played/plays pretty small rooms.

Is anybody else trying for these? I'm having no luck. Going to the secondary £200+ sites is as step too far, even for them.

The security check things are getting too difficult as well - I get the words wrong half the time.

I went via O2 site and got some. This was dead on 9am though.

mmmmofo

They were amazing last time they came over here …

that makes me feel much better

o so well i guess i'm seeing fleetwood mac in paris. (i bought it RIGHT NOW so perhaps you could too, ismael: http://www.livenation.co.uk/artist/fleetwood-mac-tickets?c=micro_site_fleetwood_080213 )

Reissue Mirage and Ta-ahhn-GOOOOOO already!