1980'S ROCK POLL ALBUMS/TRACKS VOTING THREAD. (Voting closes September 20) (all welcome to vote inc Lurkers)

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Some Dude - you are hopefully in for a treat discovering lots of great music.

You must be younger than I thought

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, August 31, 2012 9:52 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

born in '82

i thought you were4 or 5 years older for some reason

seandalai have we had any more ballots?

bump

man if i knew the tracks selections were gonna be this paltry i would've tried to make the time to nominate some, sorry that i didn't. i dunno if it would be feasible w/ the way votes are being tabulated but imo it might've been better to just decide which bands are eligible for the poll and which aren't, and let people vote for any song by the eligible bands. because man, people really nominated the wrong songs by a lot of those bands, or just too few of them.

i mean it's still an embarrassment of riches and i easily found 50 awesome songs for my ballot, don't get me wrong

i did urge people to nominate and it was open for nominations for ages. We need nominations for the voting forms otherwise its chaos.

oh yeah, you gave ample time for noms. it's just much easier to go through the albums you have and nominate them than rack your brain for which songs from them (or singles from other albums) to nominate, and i never found the time to do the latter.

I had to add banned in dc by bad brains because noone had nominated it but luckily that was before I started the thread so its up there in the post. If I add anything to the spreadsheet , it might not be noticed if people are working off the nominations listed upthread. And no way am I hassling a mod to add anything there!

yeah makes sense. i was griping as i looked over the noms list but once i pulled songs out to make a list it's hard to complain about how many great songs there are to choose from.

it's just ridiculous that we have one Guns N Roses song but 13 Husker Du songs

Tbh, I had just assumed that someone would have already nominated all the other hits from Appetite so it didn't even occur to me to nominate those. Apparently, everyone else assumed the same thing.

Well the reason i have no maximum for nominating is so everything everyone wants nominated can. BUT it's all dependent on everyone nominating. With emil.y initially being a co-runner it did seem to stop people thinking "i'm not going to bother clicking on it its just an AG metal poll" and they were nominating at that point but then it just seemed to die off with just a few people adding songs that they wanted to vote for.

If there was a way to get people interested in nominating and voting I would do it, but most are just to busy to spare the time and just hope others nominate. I did top up some albums that were missed but again i cant catch everything.

If we can get more constant conversation on this thread then it will stay near top of SNA and more will join in chat and vote hopefully.

ok added a few gnr tracks just for you some dude

I'm not gonna add stuff only one or 2 people will vote for but a big glaring admission like gnr is fine

In return I expect you to help keep chat going on this thread :)

aww cool gnr roolz dudes

I'm not gonna add stuff only one or 2 people will vote for but a big glaring admission like gnr is fine

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:37 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

that makes sense. i may cull together a list of really big hard rock hits from the era that would just seem strange to exclude and you can decide to add or not add them all at once for simplicity's sake. lemme know if you're up for that and if you'd prefer it posted to the thread or e-mailed privately.

you should post a list of the new track titles in bold, and I'll also add them to the playlist.

post them here so that way people can see them but not too many . As long as you do it quickly. I just hope those who voted (not sure how many have voted so far it was 9 last time seandalai mentioned it) dont want to revote.

I really wish you had done this in the nominations thread though. Last thing we need is other posters begging stuff be included "but some dude ...."

lol well hey if it's a problem i won't do it, just a thought.

just make it things you think people would really miss like with the gnr tracks. not crap like warrant or whatever.

yeah that's definitely the kind of thing i meant, i know i missed my chance to nominate a bunch of Kix deep cuts. will post a list this weekend.

sooner the better as i dont want to allow noms days after they closed. So yeah now or never dude

If anyonesdoing their lists you can, afaik, post your tracks and albums ballots at different times. So perhaps make your album ballots now and leave your tracks vote for a few hours until some dudes done his important additions. Have we missed any big songs (doesnt have to be hard rock)
i'll consider them if you post in the next hour or so

idk, "Forget the Rolling Stone Canon" seems to imply a 13:1 Husker Du to GNR ratio. I understand the logic of trying to fix glaring omissions, but I would prepare for some flak. also, having an all-inclusive hard-rock poll that includes classic rock results more in an alternative RS canon, not an anti-RS canon. An anti-RS canon would be more along the lines the of the recent Spin 100 Greatest Guitarists of all Time article. I get your angle, but I can also see how voters would have difficulty reconciling "Forget the Rolling Stone Canon" with adding more GNR in the post-nomination period. not a big deal, but this poll has already taken a lot of hits. I would hate to see more voters chased off, but w/e.

I guess the idea is to actually get more voters interested with a broader range of choices, but I'm just not sure it'll have the intended effect.

haha looking at the list i attempted to throw together it's probably not worth it to change the noms list, i just wanted to vote for "Kickstart My Heart" and "Wanted Dead Or Alive" haha

ok probably best not to change it then.

carry on as normal...

Interesting points about the anti-rolling stone canon, hellhouse. Got any more thoughts on it?

Rolling Stone - The 100 Greatest Albums Of The 80s
Special Issue 1990

N.B. This List Is From The Australian Edition Of The Magazine And Had The Us List At The Back Of The Magazine. I Have Listed The Us Albums First, With Any Changes In The Australian List In Brackets Next To It.

1. London Calling - The Clash
2. Purple Rain - Prince & The Revolution
3. The Joshua Tree - U2
4. Remain In Light - Talking Heads
5. Graceland - Paul Simon
6. Born In The U.S.A. - Bruce Springsteen
7. Thriller - Michael Jackson
8. Murmur - Rem / (Circus Animals - Cold Chisel)
9. Shoot Out The Lights - Richard And Linda Thompson /(Diesel And Dust - Midnight Oil)
10. Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman
11. Get Happy - Elvis Costello & The Attractions
12. It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us - Public Enemy / (Kick - Inxs)
13. Diesel And Dust - Midnight Oil / (Human Frailty - Hunters & Collectors)
14. So - Peter Gabriel
15. Let It Be - The Replacements / (True Colours - Split Enz)
16. 1999 - Prince / (Post - Paul Kelly)
17. Synchronicity - The Police
18. Dirty Mind - Prince
19. New York - Lou Reed
20. Pretenders - Pretenders
21. Rain Dogs - Tom Waits
22. The Smiths - The Smiths / (Crowded House - Crowded House)
23. Red - Black Uhuru / (The Smiths - The Smiths)
24. Los Angeles - X / (16 Lovers Lane - The Go-Betweens)
25. Tunnel Of Love - Bruce Springsteen
26. Back In Black - Ac/Dc
27. Appetite For Destruction - Guns 'N' Roses
28. Control - Janet Jackson
29. Double Fantasy - John Lennon & Yoko Ono
30. How Will The Wolf Survive? - Los Lobos
31. Avalon - Roxy Music
32. Uh-Huh - John Cougar Mellencamp
33. Zen Arcade - Husker Du / (Prayers On Fire - The Birthday Party)
34. Tattoo You - The Rolling Stones
35. Kill Em All - Metallica
36. Rapture - Anita Baker / (Eliminator - Zz Top)
37. Midnight Love - Marvin Gaye
38. Imperial Bedroom - Elvis Costello & The Attractions / (Lovetown - Stephen Cummings)
39. Eliminator - Zz Top / (Rapture - Anita Baker)
40. War - U2
41. Document - Rem
42. Strong Persuader - The Robert Cray Band
43. Nebraska - Bruce Springsteen
44. Oh Mercy - Bob Dylan
45. Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth
46. Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (Third Solo Album - 1980)
47. Private Dancer - Tina Turner
48. Skylarking - Xtc / (Quasimodo's Dream - The Reels)
49. Crazy Rhythms - The Feelies / (Cats And Dogs - Mental As Anything)
50. Madonna - Madonna
51. Run Dmc - Run Dmc
52. Making Movies - Dire Straights
53. Bring The Family - John Hiatt / (Born Sandy Devotional - The Triffids)
54. Speaking In Tongues - Talking Heads
55. Centrefield - John Fogerty
56. Closer - Joy Division
57. Empty Glass - Pete Townsend / (The Swing - Inxs)
58. The Indestructible Beat Of Soweto - Various Artists
59. Computer Games - George Clinton / (Brave - Kate Ceberano)
60. The Blue Mask - Lou Reed
61. Doc At The Radar Station - Captain Beefheart
62. Pyromania - Def Leppard / (Time And Tide - Split Enz)
63. Entertainment - Gang Of Four
64. Vivid - Living Colour / (The Pleasure Of Your Company... - Models)
65. In My Tribe - 10,000 Maniacs / (East - Cold Chisel)
66. Fiyo On The Bayou - The Neville Brothers
67. Trouble In Paradise - Randy Newman / (Primitive Man - Icehouse)
68. The Specials - The Specials / (Gossip - Paul Kelly & The Coloured Girls)
69. Radio - Ll Cool J
70. Travelling Wilburys Vol. 1 - Travelling Wilburys
71. Crowded House - Crowded House / (10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - Midnight Oil)
72. Marshall Crenshaw - Marshall Crenshaw / (The Blurred Crusade - The Church)
73. Building The Perfect Beast - Don Henley
74. Sign O' The Times - Prince
75. She's So Unusual - Cyndi Lauper
76. Second Edition - Public Image Ltd
77. Robbie Robertson - Robbie Robertson
78. Dare - The Human League
79. Guitar Town - Steve Earle / (Tender Prey - Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds)
80. Suzanne Vega - Suzanne Vega
81. 1984 - Van Halen / (East Side Story - Uk Squeeze)
82. East Side Story - Uk Squeeze / (1984 - Van Halen)
83. Let's Dance - David Bowie
84. Faith - George Michael
85. Freedom - Neil Young
86. The River - Bruce Springsteen
87. Steel Wheels - The Rolling Stones
88. Lives In The Balance - Jackson Browne
89. Who's Zooming Who - Aretha Franklin
90. ... Nothing Like The Sun - Sting
91. Lyle Lovett - Lyle Lovett / (Stoneage Romeos - Hoodoo Gurus)
92. Full Moon Fever - Tom Petty
93. The Night I Feel In Love - Luther Vandross / (For The Working Class Man - Jimmy Barnes)
94. Power, Corruption & Lies - New Order
95. Scarecreow - John Cougar Mellencamp
96. Colour By Numbers - Culture Club
97. The Mona Lisa's Sister - Graham Parker / (Lovebuzz - The Humingbirds)
98. Labour Of Love - Ub40
99. What's Up, Dog? - Was (Not Was) / (Max Q)
100. Sun City - Artists United Against Apartheid

hehehe Cold Chisel replaced REM in the Aussie list. Take that timellison!! lol

oh man that Aussie RS took out black artists and replaced with white ones. ILM will combust with rage!

NME BEST SONGS OF THE 80S

1. New Order - Blue Monday
2. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
3. The Smiths - How Soon Is Now
4. Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime
5. The Specials - Ghost Town
6. Prince - When Doves Cry
7. Neneh Cherry - Buffalo Stance
8. The Cure - In Between Days
9. New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle
10. Rakim - Paid In Full
11. Human League - Love Action (I Believe In Love)
12. The Stone Roses - Fools Gold
13. The Jesus And Mary Chain - April Skies
14. The Smiths - This Charming Man
15. Pet Shop Boys - Its A Sin
16. Pixies - Debaser
17. Bon Jovi - Livin On A Prayer
18. Michael Jackson - Billie Jean
19. Joy Division - Atmosphere
20. Salt N Pepa - Push It
21. This Mortal Coil - Song To The Siren
22. Dinosaur Jr - Freak Scene
23. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - The Mercy Seat
24. The Jesus And Mary Chain - Just Like Honey
25. Public Enemy - Dont Believe The Hype
26. David Bowie - Ashes To Ashes
27. The Pogues - Fairytale Of New York
28. Sugarcubes - Birthday
29. The Jam - Thats Entertainment
30. Pet Shop Boys - What Have I Done To Deserve This?
31. New Order - Temptation
32. The Stone Roses - Made Of Stone
33. Madonna - Like A Prayer
34. The Smiths - There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
35. NWA - Straight Outta Compton
36. R.E.M. - The One I Love
37. AC/DC - Back In Black
38. Run DMC - Walk This Way
39. Echo And The Bunnymen - The Killing Moon
40. Happy Mondays - Hallelujah
41. Dexys Midnight Runners - Come On Eileen
42. Cameo - Word Up
43. Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love
44. Morrissey - Everyday Is Like Sunday
45. Don Henley - The Boys Of Summer
46. Pixies - Monkey Gone To Heaven
47. Grace Jones - Pull Up To The Bumper
48. Prince - Sign O The Times
49. My Bloody Valentine - You Made Me Realise
50. MARRS - Pump Up The Volume
51. The Jam - Going Underground
52. Bruce Springsteen - The River
53. The Cure - Just Like Heaven
54. 808 State - Pacific State
55. Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Two Tribes
56. Soul II Soul - Back To Life
57. Psychedelic Furs - Pretty In Pink
58. Bomb The Bass - Beat Dis
59. Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills
60. Guns N Roses - Sweet Child O Mine
61. The Waterboys - The Whole Of The Moon
62. Sundays - Cant Be Sure
63. Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again
64. Nirvana - About A Girl
65. Melle Mel - White Lines (Dont Dont Do It)
66. U2 - With Or Without You
67. Duran Duran - Rio
68. Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot
69. Metallica - Master Of Puppets
70. Talking Heads - Road To Nowhere
71. Queen & David Bowie - Under Pressure
72. The Clash - Rock The Casbah
73. The Fall - Hit The North
74. Orange Juice - Rip It Up
75. Dead Kennedys - Too Drunk To Fuck
76. Simple Minds - Dont You (Forget About Me)
77. De La Soul - The Magic Number
78. Faith No More - We Care A Lot
79. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time
80. S-Express - Theme From S-Express
81. Van Halen - Jump
82. The Stone Roses - She Bangs The Drums
83. James - Sit Down
84. Soft Cell - Tainted Love
85. Womack & Womack - Teardrops
86. Madness - House Of Fun
87. Blondie - Atomic
88. Bruce Springsteen - Atlantic City
89. Lil Louis - French Kiss
90. Primal Scream - Velocity Girl
91. INXS - Need You Tonight
92. Fleetwood Mac - Everywhere
93. The Clash - Should I Stay Or Should I Go
94. Starship - Nothings Gonna Stop Us
95. Elvis Costello - Shipbuilding
96. OMD - Enola Gay
97. Pixies - Where Is My Mind?
98. Dead Or Alive - You Spin Me Round (Like A Record)
99. The Clash - Straight To Hell
100. Paul Simon - Graceland

NME GREATEST ALBUMS OF THE 80S
1. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses ‘89
2. The Queen Is Dead - The Smiths ‘85
3. Three Feet High And Rising - De La Soul ‘89
4. Sign ‘O’ The Times - Prince ‘87
5. It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back - Public Enemy ‘88
6. Psychocandy - Jesus And Mary Chain ‘85
7. Hatful Of Hollow - The Smiths ‘84
8. Closer - Joy Division ‘80
9. Sound Affects - The Jam ‘80
10. Low-Life - New Order ‘85
11. Remain In Light - Talking Heads ‘80
12. Searching For The Young Soul Rebels - Dexy’s Midnight Runners ‘80
13. Bummed - Happy Mondays ‘89
14. Surfer Rosa - Pixies ‘88
15. The Lexicon Of Love - ABC ‘82
16. Swordfishtrombones - Tom Waits ‘83
17. Kilimanjaro - The Teardrop Explodes ‘80
18. Dare - The Human League ‘81
19. Parade - Prince ‘86
20. 16 Lovers Lane - The Go-Betweens ‘88
21. Rain Dogs - Tom Waits ‘85
22. This Nation’s Saving Grace - The Fall ‘85
23. Rum, Sodomy And The Lash - The Pogues ‘85
24. The Smiths - The Smiths ‘84
25. Blood & Chocolate - Elvis Costello ‘86
26. Don’t Stand Me Down - Dexy’s Midnight Runners ‘85
27. The Eight Legged Groove Machine - The Wonder Stuff ‘88
28. Crocodiles - Echo And The Bunnymen ‘80
29. Nebraska - Bruce Springsteen ‘82
30. The Nightfly - Donald Fagen ‘82
31. Talking With The Taxman About Poetry - Billy Bragg ‘86
32. Miss America - Mary Margaret O’Hara ‘88
33. Rattlesnakes - Lloyd Cole & The Commotions ‘84
34. George Best - The Wedding Present ‘87
35. Atomiser - Big Black ‘87
36. My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts - David Byrne & Brian Eno ‘81
37. Sister - Sonic Youth ‘87
38. Straight Out Of The Jungle - The Jungle Brothers ‘88
39. Heaven Up Here - Echo And The Bunnymen ‘81
40. Green - REM ‘88
41. Imperial Bedroom - Elvis Costello ‘82
42. You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever - Orange Juice ‘82
43. Midnight Love - Marvin Gaye ‘82
44. Like A Prayer - Madonna ‘89
45. Beautiful Vision - Van Morrison ‘82
46. Infected - The The ‘86
47. Meat Is Murder - The Smiths ‘85
48. New York - Lou Reed ‘89
49. Yo! Bum Rush The Show - Public Enemy ‘87
50. Warehouse: Songs And Stories - Husker Du ‘87

Q 40 Best Albums of the 1980s (August 2006)

1. U2 – Joshua Tree
2. Michael Jackson – Thriller
3. Smiths – Queen is Dead
4. Kate Bush – Hounds of Love
5. Stone Roses – Stone Roses
6. REM – Murmur
7. Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
8. Joy Division – Closer
9. AC/DC – Back in Black
10. Guns N’ Roses – Appetite for Destruction
11. Pixies – Doolittle
12. Prince – Sign ‘O’ the Times
13. Bruce Springsteen – Nebraska
14. Madonna – Like a Prayer
15. Jam – Sound Effects
16. Beastie Boys – Licensed to Ill
17. Cure – Disintegration
18. Happy Mondays – Bummed
19. Human League – Dare
20. De la Soul – 3 Feet High & Rising
21. New Order – Technique
22. Pet Shop Boys – Actually
23. Jesus & Mary Chain – Psychocandy
24. George Michael – Faith
25. Police – Synchronicity
26. Lou Reed – New York
27. Talking Heads – Remain in Light
28. Echo & the Bunnymen – Ocean Rain
29. Peter Gabriel – Peter Gabriel [III]
30. Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation
31. Talk Talk – Spirit of Eden
32. Jane’s Addiction – Nothing’s Shocking
33. Bob Dylan – Oh Mercy
34. Soul II Soul – Club Classics Vol One
35. Def Leppard – Pyromania
36. Tom Waits – Swordfishtrombones
37. Pogues – If I Should Fall from Grace with God
38. Blue Nile – Hats
39. Paul Simon – Graceland
40. Iron Maiden – Number of the Beast

I don't follow RS at all, so I was using an admittedly outdated, half-remembered version of the RS canon. if you'd like, you can substitute the 10:1 Black Flag to GNR ratio, which definitely corresponds to a "Forget the Rolling Stone Canon" list (at least until Damaged is included five or ten or fifteen years from now). my only "thought" about the RS canon is that I've always loathed it in all its manifestations.

ILM Albums of the 1980s
Now this is how it started: THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL RESULTS!!

100. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains [1984] (75 points, 5 votes)
98. (tie) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Hole [1984] (76 points, 5 votes)
98. (tie) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription [1987] (76 points, 5 votes)
97. Big Black - Atomizer [1986] (77 points, 8 votes)
96. Associates - Sulk [1982] (79 points, 6 votes)
95. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking [1988] (79 points, 7 votes)
94. Def Leppard - Pyromania [1983] (80 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
93. Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless [1982] (80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
92. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Dazzle Ships [1983] (80 points, 9 votes)
91. Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell [1986] (80 points, 10 votes)
90. Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II [1984] (81 points, 9 votes)
89. Prince and the Revolution - Parade [1986] (83 points, 10 votes)
88. Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love [1987] (86 points, 7 votes)
87. Pet Shop Boys - Actually [1987] (86 points, 8 votes)
86. Pet Shop Boys - Please [1986] (87 points, 8 votes)
84. (tie) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine [1989] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
84. (tie) Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues [1983] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
83. David Bowie - Scary Monsters [1980] (89 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
82. Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Nail [1985] (91 points, 5 votes, 1 first place vote)
81. The Beat (aka The English Beat) - I Just Can't Stop It [1980] (91 points, 13 votes)
80. Various - The Indestructible Beat of Soweto [1985] (93 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
79. The The - Soul Mining [1983] (93 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
78. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash [1985] (93 points, 16 votes)
77. Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun [1985] (94 points, 8 votes)
76. U2 - The Joshua Tree [1987] (95 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
75. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual [1983] (95 points, 9 votes)
74. Galaxie 500 - On Fire [1989] (96 points, 10 votes)
73. X - Wild Gift [1981] (97 points, 9 votes)
72. The Chills - Kaleidoscope World [1986] (98 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
71. Roxy Music - Avalon [1982] (99 points, 10 votes)
70. Laurie Anderson - Big Science [1982] (99 points, 11 votes)
69. Scritti Politti - Cupid & Psyche 85 [1985] (100 points, 7 votes)
68. New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies [1983] (100 points, 16 votes)
67. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes [1983] (101 points, 12 votes)
66. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen [1985] (104 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
65. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly [1982] (105 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
63. (tie) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs [1985] (106 points, 12 votes)
63. (tie) Cocteau Twins - Treasure [1984] (106 points, 12 votes)
62. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing [1981] (106 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
61. Arthur Russell - World of Echo [1986] (108 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
60. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full [1987] (111 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
59. Mekons - Fear and Whiskey [1985] (111 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
58. The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me [1987] (112 points, 7 votes, 2 first place votes)
57. Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa [1984] (112 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)
56. R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant [1986] (112 points, 12 votes)
55. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me [1987] (115 points, 13 votes)
54. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. [1984] (118 points, 14 votes)
53. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska [1982] (120 points, 14 votes)
52. Brian Eno / David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts [1981] (120 points, 17 votes)
51. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man [1988] (121 points, 11 votes)
50. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms [1980] (123 points, 13 votes)
49. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane [1988] (125 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. XTC - Skylarking [1986] (127 points, 16 votes)
47. Steely Dan - Gaucho [1980] (128 points, 9 votes)
46. R.E.M. - Reckoning [1984] (131 points, 14 votes)
45. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station [1980] (133 points, 11 votes)
44. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace [1985] (136 points, 13 votes)
43. Sonic Youth - EVOL [1986] (143 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising [1985] (146 points, 14 votes)
41. The Cure - Pornography [1982] (148 points, 9 votes)
40. Dexy’s Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels [1980] (148 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
39. Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 [1984] (154 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes)
38. New Order - Substance [1987] (156 points, 16 votes)
37. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [1989] (164 points, 23 votes)
36. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour [1982] (166 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
35. ABC - The Lexicon of Love [1982] (173 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
34. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow [1984] (173 points, 16 votes)
33. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [1987] (174 points, 20 votes)
32. Prince - 1999 [1982] (191 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
31. Sonic Youth - Sister [1987] (199 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
30. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade [1984] (200 points, 13 votes)
29. Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth [1980] (200 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
28. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses [1989] (201 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
27. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction [1987] (201 points, 18 votes)
26. Prince - Dirty Mind [1980] (210 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
25. The Clash - Sandinista! [1980] (211 points, 11 votes, 3 first place votes)
24. The Cure - Disintegration [1989] (218 points, 19 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. The Human League - Dare [1981] (219 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
22. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything [1988] (229 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes)
21. Paul Simon - Graceland [1986] (237 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)
19. The Replacements - Let It Be [1984] (252 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
18. Joy Division - Closer [1980] (255 points, 24 votes)
17. Kate Bush - The Dreaming [1982] (269 points, 13 votes, 3 first place votes)
16. New Order - Technique [1989] (273 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
15. Pixies - Surfer Rosa [1988] (273 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
14. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden [1988] (274 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)
13. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique [1989] (291 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote)
12. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime [1984] (300 points, 15 votes, 3 first place votes)
11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead [1986] (307 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)
10. Pixies – Doolittle [1989] (323 points, 31 votes)
9. Michael Jackson - Thriller [1982] (331 points, 35 votes)
8. Kraftwerk - Computer World [1981] (338 points, 29 votes)
7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation [1988] (356 points, 28 votes, 3 first place votes)
6. R.E.M. - Murmur [1983] (359 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)
5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times [1987] (381 points, 28 votes, 2 first place votes)
4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love [1985] (422 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)
3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain [1984] (423 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)
2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back [1988] (478 points, 39 votes, 2 first place votes)
1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light [1980] (568 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes)

I don't follow RS at all, so I was using an admittedly outdated, half-remembered version of the RS canon. if you'd like, you can substitute the 10:1 Black Flag to GNR ratio, which definitely corresponds to a "Forget the Rolling Stone Canon" list (at least until Damaged is included five or ten or fifteen years from now). my only "thought" about the RS canon is that I've always loathed it in all its manifestations.

IN the UK we use Q as the equivalent though I think Mojo might have taken over that mantle. You could get Rolling Stone and Spin in smiths/menzies but I dont know anyone who bought them regularly.

RS does seem to stand for boredom and in particular 1 guys view from what american friends always say.

Jann Wenner, right?

look, add whatever you'd like. I don't think I'm way off w/r/t the confusion surrounding the conceptual basis of the poll, and how, at this point, some stability might be beneficial. I'm really not looking for an involved argument about the shifting nature of the RS canon, or w/e. I'm merely saying that making very arbitrary last-minute additions is problematic, which I think you already acknowledge. and RS doesn't just "stand" for boredom, it actively cultivates it with zeal.

making additions to the poll at this point probably won't make a bit of difference either way. I just threw out my off-the-cuff thoughts. I'm actually hoping the poll goes well, and of course I'm really hoping to see some genuinely anti-RS albums and tracks make a good showing.

What do you all think of Spin through the ages and their canon?

See the next time I do a poll will someone remind me that when doing a youtube companion thread, that It should be shortened links only instead of embeds as the threads are murder to open?

What do you all think of Spin through the ages and their canon?

Spin initially positioned itself in the market as the anti-RS, and its lists have always been a little more interesting. the mag was definitely more engaging in the first few years, with the Byron Coley reviews and features on Foetus and whatnot, but it fairly quickly fell in lockstep with the ascendant alt. culture, and I stopped reading shortly after that. now they seem more like Pfork, which at this point is probably more mainstream than RS (a debatable point, but w/e). their recent 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time article is seemingly tailor-made for a noise curmudgeon like myself, but it would've actually had some edge thirty years ago. now it seems weirdly sentimental, and feels a lot like the lists RS was publishing in the 80s (in terms of targeting a very specific demographic). how that list is actually different from the list of tracks that I nominated is a good question without an easy answer. I think that I'm less interested in a classics-for-classics-sake approach (even w/r/t "alt." culture), and more interested in the actual music. but I could also be delusional. to get back to your question, I think that although Spin is more interesting than RS, they still have that stultifying urge to dominate the politics of canonization, which dulls their approach considerably.

I'm pretty damn sure Whiney will be working to change that. Heard lots of good things about recent Spin. The irony being wh smiths no longer stocks it here. It still does Rolling Stone but it stopped selling Spin, Hit Parader, Metal Edge years ago. (do the latter 2 still exist?)

The bigger smiths in big cities may well still stock them btw just not the towns like mine. They only still get The Wire cuz I kicked up a fuss when they stopped getting it.

Music magazines are getting to the stage where its nearly as hard here to buy them as cd's.

Is it any different elsewhere?

I think canonization requires a certain amount of mindless repetition, which results in records like Daydream Nation being pushed as the "best" SY album for over twenty years with nary a dissenting voice. this is why engaging in the politics of canonization is so fucking boring (and why Spin is still so boring, even though it's slightly more interesting than RS).

xxxp