1980'S ROCK POLL ALBUMS/TRACKS VOTING THREAD. (Voting closes September 20) (all welcome to vote inc Lurkers)

Oops

Sorry about that, 2am rush job confusing my brain. Unweighted ballots give 51 points to each item. Can we get a mod to edit the OP?

ok i spot a few mistakes in there so will ask seandalai to fix the voting form

xp quick work my man

remove this double please
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling Elite

Everyone happy with the nomination lists?

Oh and anyone want to volunteer to do a spotify playlist for the albums? We already have one for tracks.

URL please!

There is a volunteer for it , its not done yet..

I might help with Spotify if I were able to access it at all.:P

There's ways around it y'know

Right I'm working on my list now.

Right my longlist has been whittled down to 80.

Now the pain in cutting it to 50

ok ive done it. top 10 then the rest split weighted

now for tracks

Mine Done.

Had to add a fairly random extra album to make the 15, but hey,.

haha I was loathe to cut anything and you could barely make 15??!!!

Thanks! I believe you are the first voter. I don't have access to the form to confirm though.

It's a mixture of stuff, to be sure: Often I'd say "Oh! there's xxxxxx.. ah, but I like (notonthelist) better)"

And I kept it to stuff I owned or knew...

you should have nominated then!

I just voted for tracks n albums. *phew*

I was "all over the place" as in travelling a lot. Also, why I didn't vote in the recent Cure poll.

You should've got A&A to do it!

They were also travelling. they might have nommed some Foo Fighters and the Vaccines, I recks.

nah its an 80s poll, we would have been safe.

OIC.

Did you remember to save a copy of your ballot?

Anyone struggling to cut their lists to 50?

seandalai is it just the 2 ballots so far?

btw is there any consensus on best swans albums?

Children of God

well,yes. but after that?

Of the ones above, Cop. Although it's my favourite.

not much consensus after that I think, some people prefer the more abrasive early stuff and some people prefer the later stuff

I've only heard about half their albums anyway, so somebody else should probably answer this. I really like the live album Swans are Dead.

xp

a good few bands have lots of albums nominated so it will be interesting to see if the general consensus albums do best in the poll or if an 'ilm favourite' will beat it.

Out of interest how do others whittle down their shortlists?

i start by picking out and setting aside the albums i love best of all, those that i know will be somewhere in my top 10-20. that sets a good bar of comparison for other stuff.

then i run through the rest of the list a few times and pick off outliers: albums with weak spots, those that i "respect" more than love or loved once but no longer get as much out of. the final trimming is always the worst part, and i'm often driven to more-or-less arbitrary cuts.

Sometimes you just need to go "aww fuck it" and just hit submit otherwise you would still be procrastinating 3 weeks later.

Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Bad Brains - S/T

are these different?

no its a mistake. Seandalai can you fix that please?

Time to campaign for albums. An album I hope lots of you check out is this one:
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus http://open.spotify.com/album/3BHQVxQ9W2uqQM4zMf9CGo

One of the first doom metal albums and arguably still the best.

Sadly Trouble - Psalm 9 is not on spotify
so for some US doom metal try:
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late http://open.spotify.com/album/6CyKigkGRtW3xTDZczqlRC

not much consensus after that I think, some people prefer the more abrasive early stuff and some people prefer the later stuff

I've only heard about half their albums anyway, so somebody else should probably answer this. I really like the live album Swans are Dead.

100% data-free analysis: no real consensus after COG, but Filth and Cop are considered their best noise records, which is to say simultaneously fetishized and dismissed (critics respect them, but never seem to like them much). the first EP, when it's considered at all, is either written off as embryonic or lumped in with Filth (sorta like Young God/Cop). Holy Money and Greed are IMO underrated, but are often considered too slick and/or unintentionally humorous. also, the music from this period is generally thought to be better represented live, and Public Castration is the document of choice in this regard. so, for the 80s, "consensus" of top Swans picks - based solely on my subjective guesswork - looks like: COG >Public Castration>Filth/Cop as 1-2-3/4 (Filth on occasion lauded for "rocking", and Cop for brutality).

"consensus", you know, in my house.

except that I genuinely love Filth/Cop for hitting that tiny intersection of metal, industrial and blues.

y playlist for the albums? We already have one for tracks.

where where?!?

i need a new mouse, that copied horribly... spotify playlist??

just posted mine

I already said that we already had a volunteer to do the tracks playlist (hellhouse) not a playlist.
We still need a volunteer to do an albums playlist.

my mistake, i thought you said the playlist was finished

Nope. He said he would do it at the weekend and then post it here.

It's just myself and viceroy running this now unfortunately so we're a bit pushed and need help with things like spotify and keeping this thread bumped. (seandalai is tabulating etc obv)

will try to get track playlist up in the next few days.

I've started working on a ballot...

Perhaps some of you, who were actually listening to this music at the time, could tell me if people in general listened to a mix of stuff like in the nominations here or if they mainly stuck to their 'scenes'?
I cant imagine anyone listening to noise-rock/pigfuck and hair metal for example (apart from chuck obviously)

I think I can guess the albums in the nominations that didn't get represented in P&J.

Ha, not knowing your age, I'd kind of been assuming that maybe you were listening to this stuff at the time.

Maybe SST will dominate then if it does

Actually ILM *IS* SST Central, isn't it?

Daydream Nation kinda bores me! I get why people like it but it's def not my favorite SY.

Actually ILM *IS* SST Central, isn't it?

? I never got this impression.

There is definitely a big SST contingent. Admittedly not as large as Sonic Youth or New Order ones but it's there.

yeah I'm assuming daydream nation, double nickels, and damaged will be top 10

Maybe all the Sonic Youth tracks and albums will take all the top positions, lol.

That thought scared everybody away

heard from the viceroy and he's had to pull out of running poll as he's in the process of moving n stuff so cant help.

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I guess I shall have to run it on my own. So if I'm cranky with people I apologise in advance.

unless you didn't vote then you can foad :)

if it makes you feel any better, here's a rip of the first swans EP from vinyl, sounds better than the muddy remasters that were done in 1990 imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cNnebTY_VE

We got 87 album ballots and 62 tracks ballots ( think)

way more than expected so thanks ever so much to each and everyone of you who voted and I hope you all discover great music from the poll. Hopefully tracks rollout can start sometime tomorrow!

Def Leppard thank u for yr support

http://ramzine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/def-leppard-short-shorts.jpg

has phil got a stiffy?

poll results will reveal all

It would be stirmonsters worst nightmare if Def Leppard won.

and jjj's

ftw Hysteria > Daydream Nation

also ftr

Def Leppard's an interesting case. Now, I'd probably put on On Through the Night before Hysteria but Hysteria has so much more sentimental value and I know it so well that I couldn't not vote for it.

Plus, "Rocket" is so mental!

gittar! druhms!

I def meant the two SY albums when I said SST was going to fill out the top 5, but it was an unfair jibe since one of the SST Sonic Youth records made my top 3...

I def predict Swans are going to do very well, which is what happens when you release the unofficially unanimous album of the present year. I'm thinking Children of God will be top 10

I have no idea how the top 10 is gonna shape up.

It would be stirmonsters worst nightmare if Def Leppard won.

yes, it would, although i do own this which i bought in my brief nwobhm phase and which i am delighted to see goes for crazy money.

http://www.discogs.com/Def-Leppard-The-Def-Leppard-EP/release/3132529

All gifts for running the poll will be gratefully accepted..

I bet you voted for early def leppard

if i'd been allowed 100 i would have. :)

cheque's in the post btw.

I'm sitting here waiting on an email from seandalai with the results. Been doing that since I got up!

Checked who voted and I'm surprised at the lack of ballots from some people who nominated.

will u be issuing summonses y/n

Someone desperate to be an ILX law enforcer^

Give me 30 minutes or so.

yay!!!!!!!!!! Thanks seandalai!!!

EVERYBODY PLEASE THANK SEANDALAI

Results will be rolling out soon (give me time to read them once they've been set!)

tracks rollout then albums?

Still dont have a title btw. No poll puns but will take suggestions

yes siree

im so excited!

check yr mail

got it THANKS!

I know you're very excited AG but polls generally get a lot more discussion during the weekdays?

yeah but this is an extended rollout.

The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon Rock Poll Results - Tracks!