Orbital - Wonky

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'Wonky' is an attempt at the kind of dance album you used to get a lot of in the nineties - that "throw everything in, let's make a bangin' dance-pop album like 'Music For A Jilted Generation'" kind of thing, which is fine in my book. But what seemed to make 'In Sides' so good at the time was that it was a nineties crossover dance album that felt like a complete "piece" in six movements.

It was maybe one of the first times for a lot of rock-orientated fans looking to get into electronic music that they could access it in a way that didn't follow the typical 12-song rock album format - to be immersed in a complete, neatly-bound aural experience without having to have the "oh here's the hit", "oh here's the collab with popular singer of the moment", "oh, here's the ambient fillery bit" etc... 'Insides' just feels so satisfying, so concise, no wasted moments - a slick, well oiled engine with all the components in place. I get that this is the antithesis of 'Wonky''s sparkling maximalist all-star comeback record, but it's not what I personally was hoping for.

Remember you can talk to me any time, asshole (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 14:29 (thirteen years ago)

'In Sides' largely precedes that sort of dance album though, Jilted Generation aside (and even that is way more cohesive than, say, a mid-career Chemical Brothers album).

'Wonky' is actually considerably more concise and tight than 'In Sides' - not really a judgement, 'In Sides' is a much better record, but the tracks have so much time to build. It's not a case of "wasted moments", more "we have loads of time so let's be patient" and it works in its favour.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

In the contex of metaphysics, I believe the transcendent can only be conceived of negatively.

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emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

They're both different records entirely though. Obviously In Sides wouldn't work as a bunch of single edits, and Wonky probably was good to cut these tracks off when they did.

I don't mind the "composed" element of it at all. I love how it feels like an electrified orchestra in places. Outside of "Straight Sun" (which is too straightforward and sounds like something from The Altogether) all the hooks work for me. I never really bought into the idea that an album couldn't be truly great if it didn't think outside the box or "transcend" its genre.

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)

Orbital is performing with Stephen Hawking at the London Paralympics! Like, right now!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)

"content rather than music"

vs

In the contex of metaphysics, I believe the transcendent can only be conceived of negatively.

battle of the sentences whose meaning i cannot fathom even a tiny bit

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

if you've not studied western philosophy then I wouldn't worry re the latter.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(philosophy)

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

Orbital is performing with Stephen Hawking at the London Paralympics! Like, right now!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:55 PM (Yesterday)

i had that dream once too.

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 August 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

Orbital at the Paralympics was brilliant. Being a bit of an Orbital know-nothing, it made me want to investigate further, and I know there's a box set of five of their albums just waiting for me next time I go record shopping.

Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 30 August 2012 05:43 (thirteen years ago)

Wish I'd seen them at the Paralympics ceremony.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:28 (thirteen years ago)

iplayer

(iView for Tim FYI)

itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:35 (thirteen years ago)

Wasn't it C4 rather than BBC? I'll investigate though, perhaps watch it at the weekend.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:37 (thirteen years ago)

ah sorry

http://paralympics.channel4.com/video/index.html

itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:58 (thirteen years ago)

They did Where's It Going with Stephen Hawking in front of them wearing Orbital glasses and speaking over the top of it, then manipulated his voice so it sounded like he was singing. Except the whole thing had a disabled band playing Spasticus Autisticus by Ian Dury sandwiched in the middle. The whole segment was insanely great.

Would love to know who suggested putting the glasses on Professor Hawking and how that actually happened.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:09 (thirteen years ago)

Wow.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:39 (thirteen years ago)

OK, calling one of your songs "Stringy Acid" is something that was too obvious even for Analords.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:40 (thirteen years ago)

That might be one of my biggest bugbears in music, and something a lot of my favourite acts are guilty of (I'm looking at you, Blur). VCMG did this: 'Bendy Bass', 'Single Blip'. It's like a track spoiler and very annoying.

Remember you can talk to me any time, asshole (dog latin), Thursday, 30 August 2012 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ the idea of a track spoiler

ledge, Thursday, 30 August 2012 09:01 (thirteen years ago)

I don't mind if it's a track spoiler, it's just lazy. And Orbital are one of those artists who are often quite clever with their titles. They could have done better.

The album's alright. It is an Orbital album, no more, no less. Beezledub is a bit embarrassing, like a dad rifling through their kids' record collection but apart from that it's solid.

my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 30 August 2012 09:06 (thirteen years ago)

Lazy, yes. Like they had a working title and never changed it. It winds me up and actually affects my enjoyment of the music because it makes me think they just thought "well this track's good enough, let's call it "Good Song".

Click here to read in HD (dog latin), Thursday, 30 August 2012 09:33 (thirteen years ago)

(opening ceremony repeated on freeview channel "4seven" this afternoon, 4pm i think. might need to rescan your freeview channels though as 4seven is relatively new)

koogs, Thursday, 30 August 2012 10:14 (thirteen years ago)

Didn't see the ceremony last nught. Happily an HD quality rip is available on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Kd4FgGSY5BY#t=12282s

Orbital comes in around 3hr 25. Now excuse me for a minute, I've got some dust in my eye. Again.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

Just the Orbital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmpxaLl6c4

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

thanks!

Click here to read in HD (dog latin), Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:16 (thirteen years ago)

I'm actually really digging Beezledub, in general I dislike that style but they really did it right, in my eyes

frogbs, Thursday, 30 August 2012 13:57 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it's actually one of my favourites. Helps if you think of it as a mutant version of Satan.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 August 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

well... it IS a mutant version of "Satan", so

Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

Exactement.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 31 August 2012 05:48 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

btw "Where Is It Going?" pwns

wtf where's my chapbook (DJP), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

Wish they'd used the 'Live style' mix on the album.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

should i go see orbital or go to a national convention re: my chosen profession

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:00 (thirteen years ago)

see orbital, c'mon son

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)

otm

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

ok, i will

(♥___♥) (roxymuzak), Sunday, 30 September 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

two years pass...

The end:

"After 25 years, we are hanging up our torch-glasses. Please see http://orbitalofficial.com/ for more info."

After 25 years at the forefront of electronic music — from house to rave to festival mega-techno, to international dance stardom to the 2012 London Paralympics Opening Ceremony — Orbital brothers Paul and Phil Hartnoll announce that they’re hanging up their iconic torch-glasses and parting ways for the final time.

“We’ve had our ups and downs, and it’s not always been easy, but I’ve loved my time with Orbital,” says Paul Hartnoll. “It’s been brilliant that we’ve been able to take our music to so many places, from local clubs to headlining Glastonbury to playing massive events across America, Australia, Japan… It’s been fantastic.

“It was particularly nice to get such a lovely reception when we got back together a few years ago. We made the Wonky album specifically to play live and these shows over the past few years have been a real high point in many ways. The shows and the audiences have been amazing.

“But nothing lasts forever and it's time to stop. Since finishing the soundtrack with Flood & PJ Harvey for the BBC One television show Peaky Blinders, I’ve now got my own new project, ‘8:58’ which I'm really excited about. It's a continuation of my work from the past 25 years but with a new vitality taking me on to something fresh, mixed with the best of what I've put into Orbital. Expect some live shows soon where I will be playing a mixture of my new music alongside my Orbital favorites.”

Phil Hartnoll is focusing on his DJing career, which has seen him traveling around the world. Most recently he’s played for fans in Thailand, Japan, Korea, Dublin and private parties in New York, France and London. "I am really enjoying playing a mixture of my own exclusive Orbital remixes mixed with some great new dancefloor tracks. I have also been discovering so much talent along the way and look forward to potential collaborations. Orbital has been fantastic, but like the Bond movie - "Never Say Never Again".

Having broken up in 2004, the Hartnolls reunited to play the Big Chill to celebrate 20 years of their DIY techno classic ‘Chime’ in 2009. Massive demand from fans who’d grown up with Orbital’s groundbreaking live shows led to a triumphant, ever-extending tour, culminating in an appearance before millions at the opening of the Paralympics with Professor Stephen Hawking on vocals.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:25 (eleven years ago)

Ok. See you in 2019.

StanM, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:43 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

Not quite 2019:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/feb/02/orbital-return-split-british-dance-duo-tour-dates-new-material-kinetic

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2017 11:43 (nine years ago)

a bit of a cheap shot to call this "new material" but whatever, I'll take it. always felt this tune was underrated anyway.

hope they stick around a while and zip on over to the States while they're at it. I missed an opportunity to see them in 2001 cuz I was too young, not gonna happen again

frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2017 14:46 (nine years ago)

Stringy Acid off this album is really good.

chap, Friday, 3 February 2017 14:47 (nine years ago)

yeah that one got me a bit choked up the first time I heard it

btw the last two tracks on the 8:58 album are really good. no doubt would've appeared on a 2015 Orbital album had they not split.

frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2017 14:51 (nine years ago)

well this is great news (although yeah, an actual new song would be nice)

I don't know if it's fair to call this track "overrated" since it was on practically every dance comp I looked at in 1994

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2017 15:13 (nine years ago)

https://www.discogs.com/artist/5388-Golden-Girls?filter_anv=0&subtype=Compilations&type=Appearances

66!

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2017 15:14 (nine years ago)

Aw man.

Snap!

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2017 15:16 (nine years ago)

From memory think I own at least 5 of those compilations

groovypanda, Friday, 3 February 2017 15:18 (nine years ago)

oh wow, I had no idea it had been around for so long

all I knew was "Frenetic" which was on a Orbital comp I bought, it basically said something like "it's a remix of an old tune", which I still haven't heard

frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2017 15:19 (nine years ago)

either way here's a really underrated Orbital tune - "Illuminate"

*ducks*

frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2017 15:19 (nine years ago)

They wheel out a new version of it every decade or so, only the original Golden Girls one is really worth the time of day.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2017 15:25 (nine years ago)

Damn, they ruined one of their best tracks.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 3 February 2017 15:26 (nine years ago)


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