Is SPIN really circling the drain?

that guy got into an exclusive sneaker store music concert i heard

'populist rapper' is kind of an artificial designation anyway, i dont really care to parse this to its dna or anything & who knows where keef ends up, but asap rocky just covered vogue homme japan, so i would still hesitate to describe him as a archetypal street populist.

*hommes

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-lupe-fiasco-on-tupac-album-leaks-and-leaving-the-game-20120827

lol, i think i've told you this like a half dozen times deej but my interest and awareness in this stuff is germane to my livelihood. i'm not listening to it on the corner or on the web; i'm hearing about it through booking.

― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Monday, August 27, 2012 5:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how many asap rocky shows did you book prior to the tumblr release of 'peso' and 'purple swag'.

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Monday, August 27, 2012 5:22 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean, deej for how much you like to play "how popular is X rapper in this crazy new internet age age what does popularity even *mean* now" games, forks is right that bookers have to have a very concrete, dollars & sense view of popularity, like how many ppl can they bring?

would be curious to know what inputs forks uses to make these calculations

i mean, deej for how much you like to play "how popular is X rapper in this crazy new internet age age what does popularity even *mean* now" games, forks is right that bookers have to have a very concrete, dollars & sense view of popularity, like how many ppl can they bring?

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, August 27, 2012 5:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im not questioning that he does, im questioning that he ever booked a show for asap or even heard of him prior to the media buzz which i maintain was primarily responsible for his career

i'm not at all arguing that asap isn't popular, btw

populism is a political ideology and does not mean "beloved by the people," I feel uselessly compelled to point out

It wasn't like, "World Star Hip-Hop is the worst thing ever because they show naked women!" Picasso painted naked women. Was he the worst thing ever? Which would be World Star's response to somebody who would say that.

very tickled that Lupe thinks WSHH would compare itself to Pablo Picasso as its first defense of what it does

i see what hes getting at there though, which is that everyone can pass the buck b/c its bigger than anyone, systemic power relations etc

i dont think lupe is dumb, i just think he's not a good artist

well, at this point. he's had great moments too, but typically they're the ones that are most direct, imo

i dunno, a lot of the things he's said in interviews over the years, i think he's a little dumb. or at least too far gone into a libertarian tinfoil hat headspace to actually say anything perceptive or smart about most of the topics he thinks he has something important to say about.

yeah, unlike some of the other stuff i've said itt, i don't really feel strongly enough about whether or not lupe's smart to stick to my guns on that one

ill concede the pt

deej bad, some dude better

some dude otm a few posts ago

lupe fiasco

poopé peeassco

im not questioning that he does, im questioning that he ever booked a show for asap or even heard of him prior to the media buzz which i maintain was primarily responsible for his career

it's mostly true tho

okeydoke.

"tried and true" is a bit of a dog whistle but the way they built up their fanbases is fundamentally different

well the subtext is that one is "real" and the other is not and that type of shit it happens everyday but it never ceases to get me annoyed.

would you say that's the shit you don't like?

naw that's not very catchy.
it's the shit that never ceases to get me annoyed.

Didn't the WSHH video of the kid going bananas help spread Keef's name fast though? WSHH is still the internet, right?

Certain chicagorap twitter luminaries had an ongoing "joke" about how cointelpro was behind keef

Anyway, anyone concerned that asap might contain the echoes of backpacker rap past should prob avoid the new asap mob album which sounds like swag rap's smashy trashy, with slightly weaker choruses

'Certain chicagorap twitter luminaries' is a phrase that makes me despair for humanity

I rode for smashy trashy in its day...

Hey look, a black guy:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/08/raps-long-history-of-conscious-condescension-to-women/261651/

omg i never made it to the end of the song to hear the R&B guy soulfully singing that stupid hook, this really is the worst song of the year

is "R&B guy soulfully singing that stupid hook" john legend?

no it's some fat guy sitting in the theater seats at the end of the video. if it wasn't someone i'd never heard/seen before i would've said their name!

lol, u watched the video

it came on mtv jams, i went 'ok i might as well see what people are whining about'

lol, u watch mtv jams

mtv jams is the shit

aero, they do shit like just randomly play a block of geto boys/scarface videos, you should check it out sometime

lol u consume and enjoy media

mtv jams>mtv hits>cmt pure>vh1 soul>gac>>>>>>>>>>mtv u, roughly

not that i have cable

lol u consume and enjoy media

― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:01 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

thank you for cutting right to the heart of whiney era "let's pretend dudes on a message board can lecture each other on what screens they while their life away staring at" ilx bullshit

lol, u read whiney's posts

well played

lol u blame whiney xpost dammit

some dude's tired "we all waste our lives staring at screens man" schtick is like a 400 pound man saying "Ok, I'll cheat on my diet with you tonight" and then eating a whole Little Ceaser's pizza

MTV Jams plays some Deep Cuts and Choice Tracks

some dude's tired "we all waste our lives staring at screens man" schtick is like a 400 pound man saying "Ok, I'll cheat on my diet with you tonight" and then eating a whole Little Ceaser's pizza

― jjjdoom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:51 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i bet you don't even OWN a tv, harvey danger!