best 1993 rap album besides Doggystyle, Midnight Marauders and 36 Chambers

yeah, true, not as much image makeovers/rapping style. back then it was like, rap like das efx this year, rap like nas the next.

like gucci over mike will vs. gucci over zaytoven is nothing like big daddy kane dropping "groove with it"

vs. aint no half steppin or whatever

uh ... please to break that sentence down for the n00bs

oh you're talking about shifts in production style, not image makeovers

i think

i'm saying ppl don't really do image makeovers now

they don't really change how they rap, either.

the big daddy kane example might be a bad one i was a lil young, I just remember ppl talking about how pronounced his falloff was

to be fair, i was like 4-5 yrs old during that era

he didn't fall off so suddenly so much as it suddenly wasn't cool to wear a leather trenchcoat and wraparound shades instead of like, jeans and a rugby shirt

between hardcore and afrocentrism there was no more room for shiny clothing

whoops wrong thread

wait a second, i'm not even talking about bdk, i'm talking about kool moe dee

i'm going to go eat dinner now

LL in 93 is an hilarious cultural document

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RFvqfCWU__4

― lag∞n, Monday, August 20, 2012 4:22 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwkFSQfE2Bc

remember when house of pain dissed marky mark

ha i didn't realize there was a rung below 3rd bass going after the beasties

i'm saying ppl don't really do image makeovers now

think this is generally true & is an interesting thing to think about even though the "why" of it is probably just market forces

on a comedy level i'd call it a cut above rather than a rung below

true

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

whooops forgot to vote

it would have been 1 for cypress hill i guess

Guru - Jazzmatazz Volume 1 2

we need to stop letting europeans vote in rap polls

yeah that gravediggaz victory was unacceptable

wish non-new york shit would get more love in general, but i'm not mad at this victory, even if it is a bit overwhelming, that's a dope record

if i was gonna take a 4th record out of the poll options it definitely would've been the De La, definitely is in the top 4 of a lot of lists out there and this being ILM after all.

no matter how far we drill the poll down i think ilm will be ilm

These results seem spot on to me (at least until Guru's Jazzmatazz).

Didn't know Buhloone Mindstate had such a high standing---it always seemed like the De La Soul album casual fans couldn't name---but I do love it. I'd rank it above Midnight Marauders, probably.

yeah but there are a lot of not-just-casual de la fans here

top two are both super dope gj ilx

where are the 17 ilxors who listened to black sunday?

Yo-Yo - You Better Ask Somebody 1

who was this...? even I don't think this record is that good

Missed this one, but mad props to the three who voted for the Jungle Brothers' third!

that Erick Sermon has a dope verse from Keith Murray

is there any album besides The Chronic that's widely loved enough to be worth considering excluding from a '92 poll? Pharcyde, Pete Rock, Gang Starr?

some dude deej and whiney should have their own board where only they are allowed to vote in rap polls. board should also be invisible to everybody but the three qualified posters

Ah. Their own circle of hell, you mean.

Guru - Jazzmatazz Volume 1 2

we need to stop letting europeans vote in rap polls

― jjjdoom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 27, 2012 8:04 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that gravediggaz victory was unacceptable

― some dude, Monday, August 27, 2012 10:43 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

aero you realize i was mocking whiney w/ this, not cosigning, right

"we need to stop letting europeans vote in rap polls" is hilarious

Given the De La blowout here, I wouldn't be surprised if Pharcyde actually beat The Chronic in a 92 poll

I don't really like the Chronic tbh

Given the De La blowout here, I wouldn't be surprised if Pharcyde actually beat The Chronic in a 92 poll

― Evan R, Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:30 PM Bookmark

gross

I don't really like the Chronic tbh

― chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cmon son

I think I've explained this before.

I do like Doggystyle

like I get the Chronic's importance in the genre, I've heard it/know all the singles, I understand why it's such a big deal ... but youthful prejudices meant I didn't buy into it at the time, and when I've gone back to it it's just struck me as one of my least-favorite Dre productions sonically. I love all the NWA stuff up to Evilf4zaggin (which is nigh unlistenable) and a lot of his post-Chronic work (Doggystyle, loads of singles) but yeah it missed me at the time and I can't bring myself retroactively to care about it. I wouldn't vote for it in a poll from that year. The Chronic and Ready to Die were like a one-two punch that knocked me out of caring about chart rap for maybe a decade or so (maybe less, I came back around for the Timbo/Missy/'Kast era)

"Evilf4zaggin (which is nigh unlistenable)"

cmon son

"The Chronic and Ready to Die were like a one-two punch that knocked me out of caring about chart rap for maybe a decade"

0_0

unpopular opinions about rap I have held

totally agree w/you on Chronic

chronically ilx

tbf I don't expect anybody to agree with me really. anyone younger than me is likely to have grown up with Dre/Biggie/Jay-Z/Puffy dominating the radio landscape for a huge chunk of time and that stuff was instantly canonized due to its commercial impact, there's kind of no arguing with it. I'm just explaining my personal preferences which were informed more by the previous era. and like I said I did come back around to chart rap once the east-west bullshit faded and the south became the big locus of hitmaking activity.