best 1993 rap album besides Doggystyle, Midnight Marauders and 36 Chambers

once i realized that all 3 of Black Sunday's singles had choruses that were essential 'B-Real says title phrase, Sen Dog repeats it' the bloom kinda came off the rose. "I Ain't Goin' Out Like That" is still a joint, though.

high school wasn't that long ago for me - and i prob lived in a pretty representative lower-middle/middle class suburb growing up - at least half of us had cars. USED cars, but cars

xp

yeah yeah all rap songs sound the same, i know

dj muggs production is incredible, iirc the rza was pretty geeked on it

yeah i think the thing is your parents buy cars, and then when you're sixteen they buy themselves a newer car and give you the beat-up one

thx planet earth, usa needs more oil

i mean every track on black sunday has sen dog repeating b-real at least once or twice not counting the choruses, but for whatever reason i can hang with it

car r cool for listening to raps in

rap is invented for listening to in cars! the cars that go boom!

he brings the absurdity w/o which they sunk into a gloomy pit of stoner boringness on later albums (though he was still there, so not sure where the absurdity went)

he = sen dog on black sunday, he's hilarious

I can make you famous like Amos
Same as the last punk, when I stuck the gatt up his anus
Hear me growl: Grrra! Howl!
I got the night vision just like the wise old owl

GRAA! HOWL!!

oh don't get me wrong i love sen dog

best verse on black sunday imo

in 93/94 i was still years away from having a car and i sat home all summer watching cypress hill videos on THE BOX

fwiw me n my friends vibed to the first cypress hill in cars but not really black sunday

what's funny is that black sunday is in some ways a track-by-track remake of the first one but just more amped up and, uh, booming or something

the box was the shit!

only place to see wu tang videos

ive havent heard it in years but at the time i felt like they just got too goofy re black sunday

feel like we get into a THE BOX tangent at least once a year but hell yeah, the box was the shit

no jaymc but i used to memorize all the video numbers

videos you used to see on THE BOX all the time

the box was the first place i heard vanilla ice's first cypress hill bite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i30kpGeIeM

the box was suuuuper important to my understanding of teh cultcha

the early 90s were an era of such blatant trend hopping

what era of rap since hasn't been, though?

i dunno, i feel like it was so obvious when a rapper made a blatant stylistic departure over the course of like a single year back then

now the production style might shift but the rapper stays more or less consistent

yeah, true, not as much image makeovers/rapping style. back then it was like, rap like das efx this year, rap like nas the next.

like gucci over mike will vs. gucci over zaytoven is nothing like big daddy kane dropping "groove with it"

vs. aint no half steppin or whatever

uh ... please to break that sentence down for the n00bs

oh you're talking about shifts in production style, not image makeovers

i think

i'm saying ppl don't really do image makeovers now

they don't really change how they rap, either.

the big daddy kane example might be a bad one i was a lil young, I just remember ppl talking about how pronounced his falloff was

to be fair, i was like 4-5 yrs old during that era

he didn't fall off so suddenly so much as it suddenly wasn't cool to wear a leather trenchcoat and wraparound shades instead of like, jeans and a rugby shirt

between hardcore and afrocentrism there was no more room for shiny clothing

whoops wrong thread

wait a second, i'm not even talking about bdk, i'm talking about kool moe dee

i'm going to go eat dinner now

LL in 93 is an hilarious cultural document

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RFvqfCWU__4

― lag∞n, Monday, August 20, 2012 4:22 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwkFSQfE2Bc

remember when house of pain dissed marky mark

ha i didn't realize there was a rung below 3rd bass going after the beasties

i'm saying ppl don't really do image makeovers now

think this is generally true & is an interesting thing to think about even though the "why" of it is probably just market forces

on a comedy level i'd call it a cut above rather than a rung below

true

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

whooops forgot to vote

it would have been 1 for cypress hill i guess

Guru - Jazzmatazz Volume 1 2

we need to stop letting europeans vote in rap polls

yeah that gravediggaz victory was unacceptable

wish non-new york shit would get more love in general, but i'm not mad at this victory, even if it is a bit overwhelming, that's a dope record

if i was gonna take a 4th record out of the poll options it definitely would've been the De La, definitely is in the top 4 of a lot of lists out there and this being ILM after all.