Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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i like the opening two bars of 'they' before jem starts singing.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:49 (twenty years ago)

I quite like "It's just a ride" in the irish sense.

The video for "Wish I" was bizarre: basically, couple on a tropical beach getting married and it's all nice and flowers and beds at sunset on the beach and all that. Which is fine, but the song is about someone departing for a long time and the girl wishes she was going to. i.e. nothing to do at all with the video.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:52 (twenty years ago)

when is Chantelle Fiddy releasing a single anyway?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Alright, Still is fucking excellent. It took this long into the year to get a single great album?

― David Orton (scarlet), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:58 (twenty years ago)

No, the Broken Social Scene album came out here right at the beginning of January.

No relation, I take it?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Alright, I just got my hands on the LP and I gotta ask, what's with the shitty re-recorded version of "Knock 'Em Out" on the LP?

And what the FUCK happened to, "AIDS! AIDS! I've got AIDS!"?!?!?! It's... GONE!!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 18 June 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

I love Knock 'Em Out! I have a copy of the LP with the re-recorded version on it, I suppose. Is the original version that much more different?

― musically (musically), Sunday, 18 June 2006 03:03 (twenty years ago)

I saw the 'Orange phones present the download and ringtones sponsor.." programme. It has some music on it. Anyway, this prog the one she 'complains' about on her blog.

Interviewer in 'slides reference to her dad in an interesting and novel way' shokkah. Lily says 'cunt' as part of her answer.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 19 June 2006 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Ehhh, apart from the fact that she pushes my "you annoy me" buttons almost as much as BB Sezer (i.e. all attitude and no charisma), she's okay I guess. I still don't think the songs have much to hang on to -- they sort of exhaust their interest after two or three listens. The beats are slack. The samples are a bit Elvis Costllo Does Young People's Music. The lyrics are 14-year-old-boy-puerile, and not in a good way.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 19 June 2006 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only person who thinks that Lily Allen (on first listen, albeit) sounds like a multi-cult-schooled Fiona Apple? (Granted, I haven't really registered any of the lyrics so that probably kills my argument stone-cold dead. But sonically, though...)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:41 (twenty years ago)

They are both white girl singers, phil, and that's about it.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:58 (twenty years ago)

don't know what school either of them went to.

― Roughage Crew (Enrique), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Fiona Apple is GREAT! (one key difference between her and allen)

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Went out to fill up the car w/petrol last night, Radio 1 was playing "Smile" which faded into "LDN". I went to pay for petrol, and when I got back in, "Alfie" was just finishing.

Overkill?

I assume this single will be number one immediately it's out.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 June 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Added to my folder: evidence supporting immediate abolition of the BBC no. 395821.

― alext (alext), Monday, 26 June 2006 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I love "Everything's Just Wonderful": handclaps, ba-ba-bas, an early Cardigans vibe, plus she sounds like a delinqent Annie.
Fuck, I love Lilly like I love Annie.

― David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 26 June 2006 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Cardigans is an oddly fitting reference point actually!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 26 June 2006 09:36 (twenty years ago)

what are these "white girls" of which you speak?
admittedly, as i said, that was a one-listen judgement. but something about the everything-goes musical inclusivity of allen's production suggested apple to me - especially "shame for you." perhaps only that song, but whatever...

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 26 June 2006 11:27 (twenty years ago)

I just found out "Smile" was produced by Manchester drum 'n bass outfit Future Cut (search: "Overload" [Renegade Hardware 2000], if memory serves me well). I wonder if they've done the rest of the album as well.

― JoB (JoB), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Future Cut, Greg Kurstin, Pablo Cook, Blair Mackichan and Mark Ronson is the list of producers.

― David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I just got that "LDN" single, £2. Which was nice.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Blair? I know him...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 June 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ_hfQ2h4kQ

Lily's TOTP appearance. Quite charming.

― David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:03 (twenty years ago)

morelike "Lily Allen - This summers biggest chin?", amirite?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 June 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

No.
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This here's an interview by Britain's Biggest Thicko, Steve Jones, on Transmission. In it Lily Allen manages to call her "Baywatch Babe snogger" interviewer a twat, calls Geldof a cunt and a sanctimonious prat, and admits her dad is a wanker.
Usual 'my favourite colour is blue, buy my single' pop chat, then.

Alright, Still is fucking excellent. It took this long into the year to get a single great album?
-- David Orton (pashernate...), June 14th, 2006.

Apart from Nelly Furtado, Camille, El Perro Del Mar and The Knife, that is. Obviously.

― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 30 June 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

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chinny reckon?

― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 30 June 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

OMG you go Chantelle and Collins! Neither girl would concoct such an exchange from thin air.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:04 (twenty years ago)

i dont get the MIA comparisons. ILX is weird. reggae and dancehall are not the same thing. lilly allen does sub ub40 and police-style reggae, mia does sub neneh cherry hip hop.

theres an aaron la crate remix of smile which has a great beat but is totally out of tune.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I just got that "LDN" single, £2. Which was nice

I just got the Emma Bunton album, £2 at hmv. That was nice.

― danzig (danzig), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.zyworld.com/stefankarl/food.JPG
Lily Allen

http://myspace-971.vo.llnwd.net/00575/17/95/575145971_l.jpg
Robbie Rotten, from hit kids TV show LazyTown

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Lazy town is one tripped out kids show.

― jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Saturday, 1 July 2006 13:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah tis indeed out there (Max Headroom vs Magic Roundabout!)

.. but not as trippy as those Wiggles !

― mark e (mark e), Saturday, 1 July 2006 18:29 (twenty years ago)

OK, so "Knock 'Em Out" is "Big Chief" by Professor Longhair, and "Smile" is "Free Soul" by the Soul Brothers, but what the hell is the "LDN" sample?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 July 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Revive, for obv reson.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

Damn Razorlight. If it wasn't for them it would be a top notch top three: Nelly, Shakira and Lily. It's good/unusual to see a single climb the charts - albiet in one leap from no.13 last week - to get to NUMBER ONE. Which makes a change from 'fans get it into charts first week, drops like a stone second'.

We can take the question mark off the thread title now.

― David Orton (scarlet), Monday, 10 July 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

No, because she is not a true "hit."

EMI can hype her all they like but she will never be a proper star.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, well there you go.

(xpost) Marcello, she has a #1 Single in Britain. What the fuck else does she need?

― Andrew (enneff), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

I heard loads of teenage girls singing 'Smile' in Hyde Park the other weekend - not be Lex's mythical girls at the back of the top deck of the Hackney Omnibus, but it's a start.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

The start of what?

A #1 single in Britain in 2006 - what exactly does that mean?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

What the fuck else does she need?

decent music would be a start!

ciara had a no 1 single. did people salivate over how she was going to be 2005's hottest popstar?

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

There might have some salivating on ILM - I didn't read the relevant thread(s).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

'goodies' doesn't have a thread AT ALL. ('oh' does, as does the amazing new ciara song, though. nothing LIKE the enthusiasm lily allen's got though. lily allen is pop in an acceptable way for many people - indie ("indie/ska"), white, british, proper instruments - whereas ciara is completely un-indie, black and american, and her songs' arrangements sound like malfunctioning mobile phones)

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

you should go to the msg board full of black un-indie Americans - OH WAIT IT DOESN'T EXIST ;)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should start a thread on the Goodies. "Black Pudding Bertha," "The Funky Gibbon" - now THAT's pop!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

though really, this thread should have died a death - and with it anyone's interest - the moment people went to lallen's myspace and saw that she described herself as "indie/ska". "INDIE/SKA"! condemned from her own mouth!

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Let's just admit that she's the Happy Shopper own brand version of Neneh Cherry and leave it at that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

cherry's too good a comparison. she's amy winehouse with all trace of wit surgically removed and clunkiness factor ratcheted up to 100. or lady sov after hanging out with the ordinary boys too much.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

only ska-pop song anyone needs this year = 'stars are blind' by paris hilton

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

From yesterday's Observer:

More than a month ago, for example, I thought to myself that I would quite like to buy Lily Allen's new album (not very original, I know, but I like to keep up with the younger generation). I looked it up on Amazon. It doesn't come out until 17 July. Now that date is drawing near and, funnily enough, I do not want it anymore. The intervening period has made me realise I am actually quite happy living without it.

Article in full.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of pseudonym is THAT marcello?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 July 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

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