Is SPIN really circling the drain?

m not going to get any more involved in this discussion for probably obvious reasons but I don't think that the response he got was ideal & that might have had something to do w/ how it was written.

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:01 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol @ the idea of lupe fiasco (or pretty much any rapper, for that matter) taking into account the quality/effectiveness of a press slander when losing their shit over it & starting an internet boycott rally

yea brandon's entire persona is inherently/purposefully inflammatory most of the time but lol

this is a really good dissection of why the song and its message suck

http://daintyblackpegasus.tumblr.com/post/30109701002

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhXr1U-E78

did somebody really say that "99 Problems" "sensitively deconstructed" the use of the word "bitch"? that is my main question here

have quibbles w that daintyblackpegasus piece, but the gist is otm

did somebody really say that "99 Problems" "sensitively deconstructed" the use of the word "bitch"? that is my main question here

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no fucking way....also i mean i know this is corny and and old man rap to say but it's really annoying that no one ever gives credit to ice-t for the damn line in the first place.

Brandon Shackelford 3 hours ago
As a person named Brandon, I'm offended that a person named Brandon would write this biased and dismissive article over a great song/video.

this has sent major shockwaves through the brandon community, it's all over twitter

i liked when someone commented calling it a "b.s. article"

no fucking way....also i mean i know this is corny and and old man rap to say but it's really annoying that no one ever gives credit to ice-t for the damn line in the first place.

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:15 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe he meant the pimp c-quoting line about 'ain't a bitch in a sense of having a pussy.' i wouldn't call it 'sensitively' but you could stretch that to being a deconstruction

i know you REAL HIP HOP HEADS only listen to "Snoopy Track" or whatever, but in the song "99 Problems," the three verses individually use the word "bitch" in the tag line to mean, respectively, 1. a derogatory term for a woman; 2. a female dog, 3. an effeminate man

the song does deconstruct the word but it's hardly "sensitive"

isnt that a misuse of deconstruction? idk

a song cant deconstruct something, deconstruction simply is, etc etc

idk i never went to grad school

even in the loosest sense, i would imagine that deconstruction involves more than pointing out that a word has multiple meanings

otm. wordplay can critique language, but it's a stretch too far to call 99 problems a "deconstruction" of the word bitch.

i know you REAL HIP HOP HEADS only listen to "Snoopy Track" or whatever, but in the song "99 Problems," the three verses individually use the word "bitch" in the tag line to mean, respectively, 1. a derogatory term for a woman; 2. a female dog, 3. an effeminate man

― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:44 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^woah that's amazing, i never notice that word could be used in those 3 ways before

verse one also implies critics bitching, tbf

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/08/24/spin_accuses_lupe_fiasco_of_mansplaining_with_bad_bitch_.html

think i'd quite like the awful 'rap in stuffy white person language' meme if that stuffy white person was derrida.

where's steve allen when you need him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlzP-zPvtgo

that is not ned raggett by the way.

http://theworldsbestever.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/humpty-hump-head.jpg

thank you for ruining the internet

all PR is good PR. good for lupe and good for spin.

― scott seward, Friday, August 24, 2012 12:57 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

lol i really hope whiney tells us how much website traffic has jumped as a result of this "boycott"

maybe he meant the pimp c-quoting line about 'ain't a bitch in a sense of having a pussy.' i wouldn't call it 'sensitively' but you could stretch that to being a deconstruction

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, August 24, 2012 3:42 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

this is a cheap gotcha but seriously how can you not know which member of the group said that line

lol i really hope whiney tells us how much website traffic has jumped as a result of this "boycott"

― some dude, Friday, August 24, 2012 4:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Lupe story is not even one of our two biggest traffic getters today, so....

damn boycott is working, better apologize to lupe

is it the third biggest

Ah, the Internet.

switching gears, the new issue looks fantastic as ever

i didn't get to read much cuz i was just waiting to get a haircut, but dang

#1 traffic getter on Spin today is The Academy in Peril: Deconstruction After Barbara Johnson by Brandon de Soderman

Lol. To be fair I do believe that exposing the problems inherent in relying on the bitch/lady dichotomy - with "woman" stuck in the middle as an underused supplement - is a good starting point for a "proper" deconstruction of a well-intentioned fail. I'd still try to avoid that word though.

that is not ned raggett by the way.

The things I miss.

longneck

looool oops yah thats a bun lyric obv many xps

https://twitter.com/LupeFiasco/status/239177260299587584

hes still goin at it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1-xGuEkdLw

https://twitter.com/NewBlackMan/status/239197831989190656

i think you should think about this from other angles tho j0 ...

lupe's song being muddled doesn't justify a hatchet criticism

hatchet JOB

https://twitter.com/therealbakari/status/239180828192681984

rofl @ the one response to that tweet

anyway i don't think brandon's article does either of those two things

it more sees men policing the identities of women as problematic... and while brandon is sort of playing that same game by taking lupe to task it doesn't invalidate the critique

if mark anthony neal & bakari kitwana ever say a piece of yours is 'culturally arrogant' i would probably take a step back & think about your approach, is all i'm saying

they have plenty of room for critique of lupe too in their tls, fwiw

if mark anthony neal & bakari kitwana ever say a piece of yours is 'culturally arrogant' i would probably take a step back & think about your approach, is all i'm saying

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, August 25, 2012 12:10 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

well sure -- brandon's writing is ALWAYS arrogant tho