well i'm glad these two were able to start such a valuable dialogue
― protected by kl0pper. stand back (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)
The women have spoken. They want to be referred to as ladies.
― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)
http://blogs.suntimes.com/awards/Australia%20Jerry%20Lewis.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)
the song and the review are both not the best
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)
lupe fiasco is not a woman tho
not defending the "mansplanation" angle, and i don't care for the lupe track
writer might want to think about the implications regarding other types of explanations delivered from a position of relative privilege tho
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)
or not
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
Eh, it was a pretty fair critique.
― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:42 (thirteen years ago)
it was disgraceful
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
tut tut
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
lmao this song
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
I guess I'm the one who feels disgraced. I really really enjoyed The Cool.
― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
yeah it was a fine piece
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 August 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)
im not going to get any more involved in this discussion for probably obvious reasons but I don't think that the response he got was ideal & that might have had something to do w/ how it was written.
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)
would "the rain in spin circles mainly down the drain' be funnier?
idk im bad at display names
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:04 (thirteen years ago)
in memory of paul robeson! that video is insane. just watched it.
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
now i really don't want to hear the album. but that was...something.
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
if you change the title and take out the "lady better" part and uh rhyme better it wouldn't be...oh never mind.
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)
"bitch bad" is a pretty dope song imo
though obviously the whole "lady better..... GREATEST MOTHERHOOD" party is cringeworthy
no shots, but when I saw #BoycottSpinMagazine was trending I figured it had something to do with br@nd0n s0d3b3rg lol
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)
should have had trina do a guest verse.
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)
he wants nicki minaj for the remix
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:19 (thirteen years ago)
m not going to get any more involved in this discussion for probably obvious reasons but I don't think that the response he got was ideal & that might have had something to do w/ how it was written.
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:01 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol @ the idea of lupe fiasco (or pretty much any rapper, for that matter) taking into account the quality/effectiveness of a press slander when losing their shit over it & starting an internet boycott rally
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)
yea brandon's entire persona is inherently/purposefully inflammatory most of the time but lol
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)
this is a really good dissection of why the song and its message suck
http://daintyblackpegasus.tumblr.com/post/30109701002
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhXr1U-E78
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
did somebody really say that "99 Problems" "sensitively deconstructed" the use of the word "bitch"? that is my main question here
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:11 (thirteen years ago)
have quibbles w that daintyblackpegasus piece, but the gist is otm
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no fucking way....also i mean i know this is corny and and old man rap to say but it's really annoying that no one ever gives credit to ice-t for the damn line in the first place.
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
Brandon Shackelford 3 hours agoAs a person named Brandon, I'm offended that a person named Brandon would write this biased and dismissive article over a great song/video.
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
this has sent major shockwaves through the brandon community, it's all over twitter
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)
i liked when someone commented calling it a "b.s. article"
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:37 (thirteen years ago)
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:15 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe he meant the pimp c-quoting line about 'ain't a bitch in a sense of having a pussy.' i wouldn't call it 'sensitively' but you could stretch that to being a deconstruction
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:42 (thirteen years ago)
i know you REAL HIP HOP HEADS only listen to "Snoopy Track" or whatever, but in the song "99 Problems," the three verses individually use the word "bitch" in the tag line to mean, respectively, 1. a derogatory term for a woman; 2. a female dog, 3. an effeminate man
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)
the song does deconstruct the word but it's hardly "sensitive"
― The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:45 (thirteen years ago)
isnt that a misuse of deconstruction? idk
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)
a song cant deconstruct something, deconstruction simply is, etc etc
idk i never went to grad school
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 19:59 (thirteen years ago)
even in the loosest sense, i would imagine that deconstruction involves more than pointing out that a word has multiple meanings
― bugler, Friday, 24 August 2012 20:07 (thirteen years ago)
otm. wordplay can critique language, but it's a stretch too far to call 99 problems a "deconstruction" of the word bitch.
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 24 August 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, August 24, 2012 2:44 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^woah that's amazing, i never notice that word could be used in those 3 ways before
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)
verse one also implies critics bitching, tbf
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 24 August 2012 20:18 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/08/24/spin_accuses_lupe_fiasco_of_mansplaining_with_bad_bitch_.html
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, 24 August 2012 20:31 (thirteen years ago)
think i'd quite like the awful 'rap in stuffy white person language' meme if that stuffy white person was derrida.
― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Friday, 24 August 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)
where's steve allen when you need him?
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlzP-zPvtgo
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 20:51 (thirteen years ago)
that is not ned raggett by the way.
http://theworldsbestever.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/humpty-hump-head.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
thank you for ruining the internet
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Friday, 24 August 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)
all PR is good PR. good for lupe and good for spin.
― scott seward, Friday, August 24, 2012 12:57 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
lol i really hope whiney tells us how much website traffic has jumped as a result of this "boycott"
― some dude, Friday, 24 August 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Friday, August 24, 2012 3:42 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
this is a cheap gotcha but seriously how can you not know which member of the group said that line
― some dude, Friday, 24 August 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)
― some dude, Friday, August 24, 2012 4:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The Lupe story is not even one of our two biggest traffic getters today, so....
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 August 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)