does he get mobbed walking down the street there or something?
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
no love for the first two Le Tigre albums. I still love both of those.
― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
everyone involved in this should seriously consider killing themselves
― Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
if your posting here counts as involvement i'm down
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
id be willing to make that sacrfice
― Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)
for the future
guys guys let's not get all Heaven's Gate here
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)
I can't figure out which 10 albums they're counting as being from L.A. Beck x3, Weezer, Flying Lotus, Tom Waits, Frank Ocean, Ariel Pink. Then what, Madvillainy? Elliot Smith maybe? Or QOTSA? J Dilla I guess?
I think Madvillainy, Donuts, XO, and Figure 8 should count, but that would make it 12.
If you add in QOTSA, DJ Shadow, Granddaddy, Girls (x2), and Joanna Newsom (x3) then the list includes 20 California albums vs. 43 New York albums. Ridiculous.
― wk, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)
xps Le Tigre wasn't in the database iirc? I remember searching for it.
― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
hasnt pitchfork deleted a bunch of their old reviews. the embarrassing ones
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)
lot of people reading and posting in this thread right now. do you think they agree with you but are women who don't feel comfortable speaking up?
― some dude
This is pretty rich.
melissa did a pretty good job of predicting the results, huh
― some dude All her list 'predicted' was an abundance of Radiohead in the top 20. The rest was markedly different from Pitchfork. But that doesn't matter to you when picking on Mel or WCC, does it? This sort of selective judging is only symptomatic of the kind of mocking scrutiny women's lists are put under and why women don't feel comfortable posting about this sort of thing. Because they're criticized for what they love, what they hate, what they're passionate about, what about their lists differentiates them from the average dude's lists, etc.
― some white dude (Turangalila), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)
the EP and the ehhh followup were the Le Tigre albums that showed up.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6656-kid-a/
never forget
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)
wait, who's picking on WCC?
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)
Then if you look at the write ins you get 6 CA albums vs. 4 NY albums. So Pitchfork covered music is over 2:1 in favor of NY over CA but reader write-ins are 3:2 in favor of CA.
― wk, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)
man what i wouldn't do for a butterscotch lamp right about now
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
you realize that, in that first some dude post, he was making fun of deej for getting defensive about the word "narcissistic", right Turangalila?
I think the second post was just a comment that wasn't meant to be a dig
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)
thank you to djp for saying that, i was weighing whether to bother saying anything in my defense and leaning toward 'no' so i appreciate it
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
ILX: where reading comprehension dies amidst the flames of rage.
― Old Lunch, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)
Appreciate you saying that, Turangalila, but although Some Dude is a tedious dick, he is actually an equal opportunity dick.
I missed the entire argument about that blog post and "narcissistic" (which I don't agree with the usage of in that blog, but then again, I've been called narcissistic at least once in the past week so YMMV) but the thing that does strike me is that all four of those women talking about why they didn't make lists was that they all cited negative experiences with male music fans as being something that had made them uncomfortable about entering the kind of discourse about music needed to participate in one of these exercises.
So that does make me feel like those things I was saying up above, based on this small sample size, given every single one of them/us has said it, I think there's something in that.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)
although Some Dude is a tedious dick, he is actually an equal opportunity dick.
i genuinely appreciate you saying that, i mean there's no easy way for me to say "but what about all the male posters i've been horrible on here to as well?"
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)
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― turtwig greenturty (Matt P), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)
I am really, really tempted to make a nasty joke in incredibly poor taste right now, but I will refrain and just say this: being a dick to men as well does not excuse being a dick to women. Acting like a dick is not something to advocate, no matter what the gender skew.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:13 (thirteen years ago)
it's kinda amazing to me that this thread has gone this direction when there's that Interpol reader comment we could be talking about
― alpine static, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
clusterfuck magnets of any gender shouldn't lecture anyone else on how to play nice on ilx imo
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)
can we not do this for a change
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)
WCC, Em would agree, I think.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)
what is converses involvement in this? they just 'sponsored' it?
― max, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)
everyone who submitted a ballot is being charged for a pair of shoes
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)
no shoes just sponsor best of lists, sneakers write them
― Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
everyone must participate in a triathlon while wearing Converse
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)
Strange that a poll sponsored by Converse was so sorely lacking in SOLE.
― Old Lunch, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)
Seriously, Doc Marten's list was SO. MUCH. BETTER.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Dr-Martens-Shoe-Pie/release/896020
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:22 (thirteen years ago)
oh shit, yes to that
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)
i havent bought a pair of converse in ages
― thomp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)
my brother wears them and he is 41 and i dont know if that is okay
does he like radiohead?
― Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)
or they all wanted us to feel like Sneaker Pimps.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)
Chucks actually referenced in Strokes blurb
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)
― alpine static, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:14 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
i know right?
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)
he likes espers and dexys midnight runners and triathlons
― thomp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)
that interpol album fuckign blows, who likes that shit
as the number of alt weeklies who have posted something on their websites about this increases the mark of death spreads slowly across america ~~
― thomp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)
https://twitter.com/redfabbri
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)
what interpol comment
― max, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)
I have not worn Docs since they destroyed my feet on an architectural walking tour of Oxford (hint: do not wear new shoes on architectural walking tours) but that compilation was seriously good. Also, it is on Spotify! (or it was a few months ago.)
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)
i dont think youre fully appreciating the albums tactical arrogance
i think the sufjan readers quote is the best of the top 20 tho
― Lamp, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)
if you mouse over the albums in the top 20 theres a comment for each one.
― WheatusVEVO (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)