ilx likes Vision Creation Newsun more than Super Ae? weird
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:56 (thirteen years ago)
I'd love to see a weighted list if possible, please, WCC.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)
I wanna Seksu up
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)
If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:53 AM (7 minutes ago)
love the ILX list, so maybe i don't hate consensus after all. just wrong consensus.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)
Can definitely get with the People of ILX
― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)
dronestreet- i've never really 'kept up'. in fact such an idea frightens me off a bit, there is so much music out there that is *new to me* that i dont really care about somethings literal age. so i've spent the past ten years drifting in and out of canons (mostly hiphop and indie) and i have a world of discovery still ahead of me. i feel quite anxious about 'starting' genres like techno or noise or whatever but i can't imagine being jaded about it. so hopefully some of my enthusiasm may rub off :D
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 20:09
oh yeah, i definitely still listen and engage with "new" material often. i wouldn't say that i "care" about something's literal age, but it is something i'm aware of. thus i can say that most of my listening energy is directed towards pre-1996 material. but yeah...finding whole subgenres/movements/discographies that i had no idea about is still exciting. i'm enthusiastic about music! just not about catching the newest arcade fire record. :)
― dronestreet, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)
oh dear god no. (and i like the first two arcade fire records, i just never feel i need to listen to that band again)
i turned off Sexuality, the plodding synths were only adding to my headache and tried Sapphie which... is long and I was not in the mood to pay attention to some folk epic craziness.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)
Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.
something like this, although rly i dunno. it's all in the gut and the back of the head. he just kills me every time he tries to go all out beautiful with the droney/repetitive stuff (my other favourite is probably the one with makoto kawabata,, thanks to it i have some wonderful memories of cross-country megabus trips, and i am probably the only person in the world to have those). i do like ultrahits a lot too though, and tbh almost everything he's done.
i'm always a bit hesitant to recommend sapphie to people cuz the first two people i did recommend it to, going on their tastes and my loving it, were driven mental by whatever it is in particular he does with repetition.
― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)
I should probably track down that Youngs/Kawabata thing.
― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
oh hey, i had never heard overpowered before and it's great! thx alfred
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)
There's a quote somewhere in the archives about how every time ILM runs a big poll, at least one person discovers Overpowered for the first time and falls in love with it. For me it was the 2005-2009 poll.
― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)
oh my god this record really truly rules
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiQX0FFDLs
turns out this is gorgeous and completely insane
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)
I guess I'm not very compatible with either Pitchfork or ILX mainstream, my top album list only 3 in common with both the Pitchfork top 200 and Kate's list above (and they're the same three: Fever Ray, Aquemini, ArchAndroid)... Too much non-indie friendly dance music, German techno, and Finnish rap, I guess? But here's a Spotify playlist of my favourite tunes from those albums anyway, in case anyone wants to check it out:
http://open.spotify.com/user/tuomaskuomas/playlist/3mFnss2InscDVGyhBYkPC5
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:36 (thirteen years ago)
'Sapphie' is all about the emotional connection. 'Soon It Will Be Fire' = astounding, yet very simple.
― Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:42 (thirteen years ago)
Overpowered is the best, BradNelson otm
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)
tuomas did you do a list?
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, it's here:
http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/3122a1e0/
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)
The tracks on my Spotify list are the best tracks from those albums.
i know it really doesnt matter but shit man, thanks for reminding me i forgot mop! i feel ashamed.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)
Great list. I need to find my copy of that Nicolette album.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)
I forgot to add plenty of essential stuff too, like Nas' God Son.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)
oh man tuomas, your list is killer
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)
Anyone posted this yet? It's great.
http://lindsayzoladz.tumblr.com/post/29966963774/dont-blame-us-four-women-talk-about-why-they-didnt
― bert yansh (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:55 (thirteen years ago)
not here, but it got a good talking over in the main thread
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)
Posting links is kind of narcissistic.
― an infusion of catharsis (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)
― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)
btw, i hope i didn't come across as dismissive, hurting. was just trying to answer the question. it's a good piece, and there's no reason not to post & discuss it here, too, especially considering how fast the ground moves in the main "people's list" thread.
an <<unnamed poster>> objected to the term "narcissism" in the other thread, suggesting that it's an unnecessarily disparaging way to characterize the act of making a goat list and sending it out out into the world. though i'm on board with the article overall, i suppose i see the point. it doesn't seem any more pathologically self-regarding than most of what we do for fun on the internet. nerdy, sure. self-important, maybe. narcissistic? eh, i'm not so sure. a minor quibble...
^^ white dude making fun things less fun
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)
No offense, but I'm personally content with leaving all that shit in the other thread. This should be the safe place where we exercise our narcissism without fretting over it. IMNO.
― Old Lunch, Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)
ok, cool. was trying to be welcoming of hurting's post, not thinking about the stated focus of this thread.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)
Is there a (publicly available) complete list of contributors, so that you can look at individual ballots from a list of names? I'm guessing not, given the number of voters.
― an infusion of catharsis (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 23 August 2012 03:11 (thirteen years ago)
have you guys ever heard of radiohead, thinking of checking him out
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 August 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)
the internet told me they were good, and i said "ok, computer!"
― some dude, Thursday, 23 August 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)
Would like to register my thanks to Tim F for making me check out Aim High Vol 2. Listened only 1.5 times so far and already thinking I'm gonna love this more than half the stuff on the list I submitted.
Imo, the p4k staff picks are the only worthwhile aspect of this whole exercise: http://pitchfork.com/news/47538-the-peoples-list-our-staffs-picks/
As well as the individual lists on here, of course.
― Mercer Finn, Thursday, 23 August 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)
Nitsuh Abebe isn't on there, tho :(
― Mercer Finn, Thursday, 23 August 2012 04:15 (thirteen years ago)
let's talk about the inadequate life i maintained before hearing the present lover this evening
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 August 2012 05:56 (thirteen years ago)
Is this still a safe space for lists and rankings of ILX ballots, though? Because I did a weighted one. It's not hugely different but at least irons out some of those endless tie ballots. It is, predictably, a very ~ILM~ list.
1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 17532 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 15653 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 13444 - Björk - Homogenic - 13405 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 12636 - Portishead - Third - 12317 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 12218 - Radiohead - Kid A - 12209 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 118910 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 118611 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 116712 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 115313 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 112514 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 109215 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 107316 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 105517 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 105318 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 103719 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 103420 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 102521 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 99422 - OutKast - Stankonia - 94123 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 93724 - The Strokes - Is This It - 92025 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 91026 - Outkast - Aquemini - 90327 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 88228 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 85629 - Burial - Untrue - 85030 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 84831 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 84632 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 83733 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 81834 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 81435 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 80336 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 75337 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 74938 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 74039 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 72440 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 72041 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 71242 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 70743 - M.I.A. - Kala - 69344 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 68545 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 67446 - The xx - The xx - 67147 - Daft Punk - Homework - 66148 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 66049 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 65050 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 65051 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 64852 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 64153 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 63654 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 63555 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 62456 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 61657 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 61258 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 60659 - Orbital - In Sides - 59860 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 59661 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 59162 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 59163 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 59164 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 58665 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 57566 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 57467 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 57368 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 55569 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 54870 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 54871 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 53372 - Björk - Vespertine - 53173 - Fugazi - The Argument - 52474 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 50275 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 49976 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 49977 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 48978 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 48479 - Caribou - Swim - 47880 - M.I.A. - Arular - 47381 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 47282 - Robyn - Body Talk - 46483 - Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux - 46284 - Katy B - On a Mission - 46285 - J Dilla - Donuts - 45786 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 45687 - St. Vincent - Actor - 45488 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 45489 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 44990 - Tortoise - TNT - 44891 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 44692 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 44593 - Pulp - We Love Life - 44294 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 44195 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 44196 - Gas - Pop - 43697 - Autechre - LP5 - 43698 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 43499 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 430100 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 428
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 23 August 2012 08:33 (thirteen years ago)
Awesome. I like that list a lot. Thanks WCC.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 23 August 2012 09:48 (thirteen years ago)
I'm not sure on one hand complaining about how predictable p4k list is yet a predictable ilm poll is ok. I like plenty on both lists i guess but my top list would be quite different.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:02 (thirteen years ago)
Oh man, I hate to say it but that really is a 'very ILM' top ten. Still, whaddya expect?
― Here's that tenner I owe you, asshole (dog latin), Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)
exactly its no big deal really. We just shouldn't pretend its a great list just because its ilm , its not really a big diverse list covering everything is it but nor would i expect it to be. Same for p4k.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:11 (thirteen years ago)
but , as with all lists, if some people discover good albums they did not know about its a good thing.
Although I'm loving that Sung Tongs and LP5 are voted the best albums by AC and Ae respectively, rather than say MPP and Confield which are those bands' "New Jersey"s
― Here's that tenner I owe you, asshole (dog latin), Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:17 (thirteen years ago)
that list is great, kerr, who didnt vote, is just annoyed there is no metal on it
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:19 (thirteen years ago)
Everyone always thinks that the music they like represents this vast diverse tapestry whereas the music they don't like and other people do represents a tiny segment of the dizzying possibilities out there.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:25 (thirteen years ago)
I didn't say it was bad or great did I? Infact I said I liked plenty on it.
xp
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)
Well there are different objections being raised. "This list was not diverse because it did not represent my favourite genre" versus "This list was not diverse because there are no women or brown people or gay people or artists from outside the US/UK" are different issues that are being conflated quite a bit for reasons which were exhaustively discussed on the other thread, so reason to get into it again blah blah blah shut up WCC etc forever
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:34 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks for compiling the list WCC
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)
No probs. I had a lot of fun with the data - though I can now understand why P4k might have excluded write-ins due to inconsistent spelling, punctuation, etc. (Why did half of you write Notorious B.I.G and half write Notorious B.I.G. why can't we all just get along?)
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:39 (thirteen years ago)
Biggie exceeds all grammatical pigeonholes.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:41 (thirteen years ago)