Great music discoveries from other people's (p4k) lists I want to talk about

I've always felt like Hail was pretty underrated, there were just massive and IMO unreasonable expectations for it and when the result was "merely" very good a lot of people wrote it off. I do believe it could have snipped a song or two but that's really my go-to R-head album. I'm surprised many of these same fans praised In Rainbows so much, as it's really very similar to Hail, just shorter.

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

I've had trouble getting into Ultrahits myself, for all that people rave about it :) Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

Discovering the Herman Düne album 'Not On Top' has made this afternoon v enjoyable.

And we do like OK Computer, but not as much as Swedish pop, French house and Japanese noise, apparently. And Sinister still holds as much sway over ILX taste as Radiohead does.

Rank - Album - votes

1 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 24
1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 24
2 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 20
3 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 19
4 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 18
4 - Björk - Homogenic - 18
4 - Radiohead - Kid A - 18
4 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 18
5 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 17
5 - Portishead - Third - 17
5 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 17
5 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 17
5 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 17
5 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 17
6 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 16
6 - Outkast - Aquemini - 16
6 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 16
6 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 16
7 - OutKast - Stankonia - 15
7 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 15
7 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 15
7 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 15
8 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 14
8 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 14
8 - The Strokes - Is This It - 14
8 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 14
8 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 14
8 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 14
8 - Burial - Untrue - 14
8 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 14
9 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 13
9 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 13
9 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 13
10 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 12
10 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 12
10 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 12
10 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 12
10 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 12
10 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 12
10 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 12
11 - The xx - The xx - 11
11 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 11
11 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 11
11 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 11
11 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 11
11 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 11
11 - M.I.A. - Kala - 11
12 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 10
12 - Katy B - On a Mission - 10
12 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 10
12 - Daft Punk - Homework - 10
12 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 10
12 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 10
12 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 10
12 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 10
12 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 10
13 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 9
13 - Robyn - Body Talk - 9
13 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 9
13 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 9
13 - St. Vincent - Actor - 9
13 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 9
13 - Cat Power - Moon Pix - 9
13 - Björk - Vespertine - 9
13 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 9
13 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 9
13 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 9
13 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 9
13 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 9
13 - Air - Moon Safari - 9
13 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 9
13 - Fugazi - The Argument - 9
13 - Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles - 9
14 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 8
14 - Tortoise - TNT - 8
14 - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - 8
14 - Orbital - In Sides - 8
14 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 8
14 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 8
14 - Sleigh Bells - Treats - 8
14 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 8
14 - J Dilla - Donuts - 8
14 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 8
14 - Elliott Smith - Either/Or - 8
14 - M.I.A. - Arular - 8
14 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 8
14 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 8
14 - Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People - 8
14 - Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too - 8
14 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 8
14 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 8
15 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 7
15 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 7
15 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 7
15 - PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love King - 7
15 - Michael Mayer - Immer - 7
15 - Owen Pallett - Heartland - 7
15 - Nicolas Jaar - Space Is Only Noise - 7
15 - T.I. - King - 7
15 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 7
15 - The Rapture - Echoes - 7
15 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 7
15 - Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid - 7
15 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 7
15 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 7
15 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz! - 7
15 - Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - 7
15 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 7
15 - Dr. Octagon - Octagonecologyst - 7
15 - Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster - 7
15 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 7
15 - Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair - 7
15 - DJ Quik / Kurupt - BlaQKout - 7
15 - Built to Spill - Keep it Like a Secret - 7
15 - Annie - Anniemal - 7
15 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 7
15 - Beyoncé - 4 - 7
15 - Bat For Lashes - Two Suns - 7
15 - Caribou - Swim - 7
15 - Britney Spears - Blackout - 7
15 - Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See a Darkness - 7
15 - Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid - 7
15 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 7
15 - Destiny's Child - The Writing's On the Wall - 7
15 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 7

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

ha i didn't realize you were talking about THESE results, sorry for being a dick on the other thread

ilx likes Vision Creation Newsun more than Super Ae? weird

I'd love to see a weighted list if possible, please, WCC.

I wanna Seksu up

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:53 AM (7 minutes ago)

love the ILX list, so maybe i don't hate consensus after all. just wrong consensus.

Can definitely get with the People of ILX

dronestreet- i've never really 'kept up'. in fact such an idea frightens me off a bit, there is so much music out there that is *new to me* that i dont really care about somethings literal age. so i've spent the past ten years drifting in and out of canons (mostly hiphop and indie) and i have a world of discovery still ahead of me. i feel quite anxious about 'starting' genres like techno or noise or whatever but i can't imagine being jaded about it. so hopefully some of my enthusiasm may rub off :D

― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 20:09

oh yeah, i definitely still listen and engage with "new" material often. i wouldn't say that i "care" about something's literal age, but it is something i'm aware of. thus i can say that most of my listening energy is directed towards pre-1996 material. but yeah...finding whole subgenres/movements/discographies that i had no idea about is still exciting. i'm enthusiastic about music! just not about catching the newest arcade fire record. :)

oh dear god no. (and i like the first two arcade fire records, i just never feel i need to listen to that band again)

i turned off Sexuality, the plodding synths were only adding to my headache and tried Sapphie which... is long and I was not in the mood to pay attention to some folk epic craziness.

Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

something like this, although rly i dunno. it's all in the gut and the back of the head. he just kills me every time he tries to go all out beautiful with the droney/repetitive stuff (my other favourite is probably the one with makoto kawabata,, thanks to it i have some wonderful memories of cross-country megabus trips, and i am probably the only person in the world to have those). i do like ultrahits a lot too though, and tbh almost everything he's done.

i'm always a bit hesitant to recommend sapphie to people cuz the first two people i did recommend it to, going on their tastes and my loving it, were driven mental by whatever it is in particular he does with repetition.

I should probably track down that Youngs/Kawabata thing.

oh hey, i had never heard overpowered before and it's great! thx alfred

There's a quote somewhere in the archives about how every time ILM runs a big poll, at least one person discovers Overpowered for the first time and falls in love with it. For me it was the 2005-2009 poll.

oh my god this record really truly rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiQX0FFDLs

turns out this is gorgeous and completely insane

I guess I'm not very compatible with either Pitchfork or ILX mainstream, my top album list only 3 in common with both the Pitchfork top 200 and Kate's list above (and they're the same three: Fever Ray, Aquemini, ArchAndroid)... Too much non-indie friendly dance music, German techno, and Finnish rap, I guess? But here's a Spotify playlist of my favourite tunes from those albums anyway, in case anyone wants to check it out:

http://open.spotify.com/user/tuomaskuomas/playlist/3mFnss2InscDVGyhBYkPC5

'Sapphie' is all about the emotional connection. 'Soon It Will Be Fire' = astounding, yet very simple.

Overpowered is the best, BradNelson otm

tuomas did you do a list?

Yeah, it's here:

http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/3122a1e0/

The tracks on my Spotify list are the best tracks from those albums.

i know it really doesnt matter but shit man, thanks for reminding me i forgot mop! i feel ashamed.

Great list. I need to find my copy of that Nicolette album.

I forgot to add plenty of essential stuff too, like Nas' God Son.

oh man tuomas, your list is killer

Anyone posted this yet? It's great.

http://lindsayzoladz.tumblr.com/post/29966963774/dont-blame-us-four-women-talk-about-why-they-didnt

not here, but it got a good talking over in the main thread

Posting links is kind of narcissistic.

Posting links is kind of narcissistic.

btw, i hope i didn't come across as dismissive, hurting. was just trying to answer the question. it's a good piece, and there's no reason not to post & discuss it here, too, especially considering how fast the ground moves in the main "people's list" thread.

an <<unnamed poster>> objected to the term "narcissism" in the other thread, suggesting that it's an unnecessarily disparaging way to characterize the act of making a goat list and sending it out out into the world. though i'm on board with the article overall, i suppose i see the point. it doesn't seem any more pathologically self-regarding than most of what we do for fun on the internet. nerdy, sure. self-important, maybe. narcissistic? eh, i'm not so sure. a minor quibble...

^^ white dude making fun things less fun

No offense, but I'm personally content with leaving all that shit in the other thread. This should be the safe place where we exercise our narcissism without fretting over it. IMNO.

ok, cool. was trying to be welcoming of hurting's post, not thinking about the stated focus of this thread.

Is there a (publicly available) complete list of contributors, so that you can look at individual ballots from a list of names? I'm guessing not, given the number of voters.

have you guys ever heard of radiohead, thinking of checking him out

the internet told me they were good, and i said "ok, computer!"

Would like to register my thanks to Tim F for making me check out Aim High Vol 2. Listened only 1.5 times so far and already thinking I'm gonna love this more than half the stuff on the list I submitted.

Imo, the p4k staff picks are the only worthwhile aspect of this whole exercise: http://pitchfork.com/news/47538-the-peoples-list-our-staffs-picks/

As well as the individual lists on here, of course.

Nitsuh Abebe isn't on there, tho :(

let's talk about the inadequate life i maintained before hearing the present lover this evening

Is this still a safe space for lists and rankings of ILX ballots, though? Because I did a weighted one. It's not hugely different but at least irons out some of those endless tie ballots. It is, predictably, a very ~ILM~ list.

1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 1753
2 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 1565
3 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 1344
4 - Björk - Homogenic - 1340
5 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 1263
6 - Portishead - Third - 1231
7 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 1221
8 - Radiohead - Kid A - 1220
9 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 1189
10 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 1186
11 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 1167
12 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 1153
13 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 1125
14 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 1092
15 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 1073
16 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 1055
17 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 1053
18 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 1037
19 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 1034
20 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 1025
21 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 994
22 - OutKast - Stankonia - 941
23 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 937
24 - The Strokes - Is This It - 920
25 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 910
26 - Outkast - Aquemini - 903
27 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 882
28 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 856
29 - Burial - Untrue - 850
30 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 848
31 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 846
32 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 837
33 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 818
34 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 814
35 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 803
36 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 753
37 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 749
38 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 740
39 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 724
40 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 720
41 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 712
42 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 707
43 - M.I.A. - Kala - 693
44 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 685
45 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 674
46 - The xx - The xx - 671
47 - Daft Punk - Homework - 661
48 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 660
49 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 650
50 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 650
51 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 648
52 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 641
53 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 636
54 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 635
55 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 624
56 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 616
57 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 612
58 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 606
59 - Orbital - In Sides - 598
60 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 596
61 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 591
62 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 591
63 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 591
64 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 586
65 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 575
66 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 574
67 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 573
68 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 555
69 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 548
70 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 548
71 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 533
72 - Björk - Vespertine - 531
73 - Fugazi - The Argument - 524
74 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 502
75 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 499
76 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 499
77 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 489
78 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 484
79 - Caribou - Swim - 478
80 - M.I.A. - Arular - 473
81 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 472
82 - Robyn - Body Talk - 464
83 - Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux - 462
84 - Katy B - On a Mission - 462
85 - J Dilla - Donuts - 457
86 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 456
87 - St. Vincent - Actor - 454
88 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 454
89 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 449
90 - Tortoise - TNT - 448
91 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 446
92 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 445
93 - Pulp - We Love Life - 442
94 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 441
95 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 441
96 - Gas - Pop - 436
97 - Autechre - LP5 - 436
98 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 434
99 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 430
100 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 428

Awesome. I like that list a lot. Thanks WCC.

I'm not sure on one hand complaining about how predictable p4k list is yet a predictable ilm poll is ok. I like plenty on both lists i guess but my top list would be quite different.

Oh man, I hate to say it but that really is a 'very ILM' top ten. Still, whaddya expect?

exactly its no big deal really. We just shouldn't pretend its a great list just because its ilm , its not really a big diverse list covering everything is it but nor would i expect it to be. Same for p4k.

but , as with all lists, if some people discover good albums they did not know about its a good thing.

Although I'm loving that Sung Tongs and LP5 are voted the best albums by AC and Ae respectively, rather than say MPP and Confield which are those bands' "New Jersey"s

that list is great, kerr, who didnt vote, is just annoyed there is no metal on it

Everyone always thinks that the music they like represents this vast diverse tapestry whereas the music they don't like and other people do represents a tiny segment of the dizzying possibilities out there.