Great music discoveries from other people's (p4k) lists I want to talk about

I don't know what I expected but this Radiohead/Radiohead/Arcade Fire/NMH result seemed all but inevitable and is really kind of depressing

what is it about In Rainbows? I just don't get that album at all, at least not as an entire body of work; there are individual songs on it that I like but none I've really felt compelled to go back and play

like, I feel like its placement/canonization is almost entirely due to the band giving it away for free

i think i was v wrong in expecting a bit more variety. not much more but meeeeh.

chill out love.

o_O

Sapphie = amazing Richard Youngs album

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

lol, not a fan i take it?

― contenderizer, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no I love ultraglide in black! I was riffing on "Black Vomit" which I posted upthread alongside the Dirtbombs comp.

anyway, bugger that, i'm back on the listening train. Picked Sexuality by Seb Tellier.

what is it about In Rainbows? I just don't get that album at all, at least not as an entire body of work; there are individual songs on it that I like but none I've really felt compelled to go back and play

like, I feel like its placement/canonization is almost entirely due to the band giving it away for free

tbh I feel like it's nearly impossible for any Radiohead album past, say, Amnesiac to really be evaluated fairly, on its own terms. In Rainbows is short and sweet but I think it's also the point where a lot of people realized, four years on since Hail to the Thief, that hey, maybe I'm not really a big fan of these guys despite what everyone tells me

also Wolf Eyes/Braxton is Anthony Braxton playing a live gig with Wolf Eyes. classic if only for the exchange at the beginning here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUzctEOvsh4

"Anthony, whaddya wanna hear man, 'Leper War' or 'Black Vomit'?"
"Black. Vomit."

tbh I feel like it's nearly impossible for any Radiohead album past, say, Amnesiac to really be evaluated fairly, on its own terms. In Rainbows is short and sweet but I think it's also the point where a lot of people realized, four years on since Hail to the Thief, that hey, maybe I'm not really a big fan of these guys despite what everyone tells me

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

that theory would've held a lot more weight before King of Limbs

Radiohead's fine, but I barely listened to Hail To The Thief and haven't heard anything they've done since. And I have a suspicion that I only rate Kid A as highly as I do because it was a really amazing album to hear for the first time while doing whippits.

Hail To The Thief is easily my favorite album by Radiohead and I strongly encourage everyone to listen to it again, particularly "There There", "The Gloaming", "A Drunken Punchup At A Wedding" and "Myxomatosis"

I have bad news for you, ILX: for all the complaining about Radiohead that you're doing, you like Radiohead just as much as Pitchfork voters do.

Top artists by vote (unweighted)
rank - artist - number of votes

1 - Radiohead - 66
2 - Various Artists - 48
3 - OutKast - 42
4 - Animal Collective - 37
5 - Daft Punk - 34
6 - Kanye West - 33
7 - Jay-Z - 32
8 - Belle And Sebastian - 31
9 - Missy Elliott - 30
10 - Spoon - 30
11 - Boredoms - 29
12 - LCD Soundsystem - 28
13 - The Knife - 27
13 - Basement Jaxx - 27
13 - Erykah Badu - 27
13 - Björk - 27
13 - Broadcast - 27
14 - Boards of Canada - 26
14 - Destroyer - 26
15 - The-Dream - 25
16 - PJ Harvey - 24
17 - The Mountain Goats - 23
18 - Yo La Tengo - 21
18 - Ghostface Killah - 21
18 - Aphex Twin - 21
19 - The Strokes - 20
19 - Cat Power - 20
20 - Portishead - 19
20 - M.I.A. - 19
20 - Dizzee Rascal - 19
21 - Vampire Weekend - 18
21 - Stereolab - 18
21 - The Magnetic Fields - 18
21 - Panda Bear - 18
21 - Clipse - 18
22 - Robyn - 17
22 - The Avalanches - 17
22 - Sonic Youth - 17
22 - The Streets - 17
22 - DJ Shadow - 17
22 - Luomo - 17
22 - Joanna Newsom - 17
22 - Junior Boys - 17
23 - Sleater-Kinney - 16
23 - Air - 16
23 - Burial - 16
23 - Arcade Fire - 16
23 - Deerhoof - 16
24 - Scott Walker - 15
24 - Neutral Milk Hotel - 15
24 - Justin Timberlake - 15
24 - Kate Bush - 15
24 - Elliott Smith - 15
24 - D'Angelo - 15
25 - Studio - 14
25 - Spiritualized - 14
25 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - 14
25 - Madvillain - 14
25 - Low - 14
25 - Caribou - 14
25 - Built to Spill - 14
25 - Jim O'Rourke - 14

(Oops, sorry for "various artists" at the top there, just move everyone else one ranking up)

lol I was expecting that

I've always felt like Hail was pretty underrated, there were just massive and IMO unreasonable expectations for it and when the result was "merely" very good a lot of people wrote it off. I do believe it could have snipped a song or two but that's really my go-to R-head album. I'm surprised many of these same fans praised In Rainbows so much, as it's really very similar to Hail, just shorter.

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

I've had trouble getting into Ultrahits myself, for all that people rave about it :) Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

Discovering the Herman Düne album 'Not On Top' has made this afternoon v enjoyable.

And we do like OK Computer, but not as much as Swedish pop, French house and Japanese noise, apparently. And Sinister still holds as much sway over ILX taste as Radiohead does.

Rank - Album - votes

1 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 24
1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 24
2 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 20
3 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 19
4 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 18
4 - Björk - Homogenic - 18
4 - Radiohead - Kid A - 18
4 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 18
5 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 17
5 - Portishead - Third - 17
5 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 17
5 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 17
5 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 17
5 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 17
6 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 16
6 - Outkast - Aquemini - 16
6 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 16
6 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 16
7 - OutKast - Stankonia - 15
7 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 15
7 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 15
7 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 15
8 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 14
8 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 14
8 - The Strokes - Is This It - 14
8 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 14
8 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 14
8 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 14
8 - Burial - Untrue - 14
8 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 14
9 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 13
9 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 13
9 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 13
10 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 12
10 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 12
10 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 12
10 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 12
10 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 12
10 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 12
10 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 12
11 - The xx - The xx - 11
11 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 11
11 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 11
11 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 11
11 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 11
11 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 11
11 - M.I.A. - Kala - 11
12 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 10
12 - Katy B - On a Mission - 10
12 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 10
12 - Daft Punk - Homework - 10
12 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 10
12 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 10
12 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 10
12 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 10
12 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 10
13 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 9
13 - Robyn - Body Talk - 9
13 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 9
13 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 9
13 - St. Vincent - Actor - 9
13 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 9
13 - Cat Power - Moon Pix - 9
13 - Björk - Vespertine - 9
13 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 9
13 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 9
13 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 9
13 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 9
13 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 9
13 - Air - Moon Safari - 9
13 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 9
13 - Fugazi - The Argument - 9
13 - Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles - 9
14 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 8
14 - Tortoise - TNT - 8
14 - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - 8
14 - Orbital - In Sides - 8
14 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 8
14 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 8
14 - Sleigh Bells - Treats - 8
14 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 8
14 - J Dilla - Donuts - 8
14 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 8
14 - Elliott Smith - Either/Or - 8
14 - M.I.A. - Arular - 8
14 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 8
14 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 8
14 - Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People - 8
14 - Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too - 8
14 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 8
14 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 8
15 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 7
15 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 7
15 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 7
15 - PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love King - 7
15 - Michael Mayer - Immer - 7
15 - Owen Pallett - Heartland - 7
15 - Nicolas Jaar - Space Is Only Noise - 7
15 - T.I. - King - 7
15 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 7
15 - The Rapture - Echoes - 7
15 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 7
15 - Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid - 7
15 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 7
15 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 7
15 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz! - 7
15 - Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - 7
15 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 7
15 - Dr. Octagon - Octagonecologyst - 7
15 - Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster - 7
15 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 7
15 - Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair - 7
15 - DJ Quik / Kurupt - BlaQKout - 7
15 - Built to Spill - Keep it Like a Secret - 7
15 - Annie - Anniemal - 7
15 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 7
15 - Beyoncé - 4 - 7
15 - Bat For Lashes - Two Suns - 7
15 - Caribou - Swim - 7
15 - Britney Spears - Blackout - 7
15 - Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See a Darkness - 7
15 - Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid - 7
15 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 7
15 - Destiny's Child - The Writing's On the Wall - 7
15 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 7

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

ha i didn't realize you were talking about THESE results, sorry for being a dick on the other thread

ilx likes Vision Creation Newsun more than Super Ae? weird

I'd love to see a weighted list if possible, please, WCC.

I wanna Seksu up

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:53 AM (7 minutes ago)

love the ILX list, so maybe i don't hate consensus after all. just wrong consensus.

Can definitely get with the People of ILX

dronestreet- i've never really 'kept up'. in fact such an idea frightens me off a bit, there is so much music out there that is *new to me* that i dont really care about somethings literal age. so i've spent the past ten years drifting in and out of canons (mostly hiphop and indie) and i have a world of discovery still ahead of me. i feel quite anxious about 'starting' genres like techno or noise or whatever but i can't imagine being jaded about it. so hopefully some of my enthusiasm may rub off :D

― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 20:09

oh yeah, i definitely still listen and engage with "new" material often. i wouldn't say that i "care" about something's literal age, but it is something i'm aware of. thus i can say that most of my listening energy is directed towards pre-1996 material. but yeah...finding whole subgenres/movements/discographies that i had no idea about is still exciting. i'm enthusiastic about music! just not about catching the newest arcade fire record. :)

oh dear god no. (and i like the first two arcade fire records, i just never feel i need to listen to that band again)

i turned off Sexuality, the plodding synths were only adding to my headache and tried Sapphie which... is long and I was not in the mood to pay attention to some folk epic craziness.

Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

something like this, although rly i dunno. it's all in the gut and the back of the head. he just kills me every time he tries to go all out beautiful with the droney/repetitive stuff (my other favourite is probably the one with makoto kawabata,, thanks to it i have some wonderful memories of cross-country megabus trips, and i am probably the only person in the world to have those). i do like ultrahits a lot too though, and tbh almost everything he's done.

i'm always a bit hesitant to recommend sapphie to people cuz the first two people i did recommend it to, going on their tastes and my loving it, were driven mental by whatever it is in particular he does with repetition.

I should probably track down that Youngs/Kawabata thing.

oh hey, i had never heard overpowered before and it's great! thx alfred

There's a quote somewhere in the archives about how every time ILM runs a big poll, at least one person discovers Overpowered for the first time and falls in love with it. For me it was the 2005-2009 poll.

oh my god this record really truly rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiQX0FFDLs

turns out this is gorgeous and completely insane

I guess I'm not very compatible with either Pitchfork or ILX mainstream, my top album list only 3 in common with both the Pitchfork top 200 and Kate's list above (and they're the same three: Fever Ray, Aquemini, ArchAndroid)... Too much non-indie friendly dance music, German techno, and Finnish rap, I guess? But here's a Spotify playlist of my favourite tunes from those albums anyway, in case anyone wants to check it out:

http://open.spotify.com/user/tuomaskuomas/playlist/3mFnss2InscDVGyhBYkPC5

'Sapphie' is all about the emotional connection. 'Soon It Will Be Fire' = astounding, yet very simple.

Overpowered is the best, BradNelson otm

tuomas did you do a list?

Yeah, it's here:

http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/3122a1e0/

The tracks on my Spotify list are the best tracks from those albums.

i know it really doesnt matter but shit man, thanks for reminding me i forgot mop! i feel ashamed.

Great list. I need to find my copy of that Nicolette album.

I forgot to add plenty of essential stuff too, like Nas' God Son.

oh man tuomas, your list is killer

Anyone posted this yet? It's great.

http://lindsayzoladz.tumblr.com/post/29966963774/dont-blame-us-four-women-talk-about-why-they-didnt

not here, but it got a good talking over in the main thread

Posting links is kind of narcissistic.

Posting links is kind of narcissistic.

btw, i hope i didn't come across as dismissive, hurting. was just trying to answer the question. it's a good piece, and there's no reason not to post & discuss it here, too, especially considering how fast the ground moves in the main "people's list" thread.

an <<unnamed poster>> objected to the term "narcissism" in the other thread, suggesting that it's an unnecessarily disparaging way to characterize the act of making a goat list and sending it out out into the world. though i'm on board with the article overall, i suppose i see the point. it doesn't seem any more pathologically self-regarding than most of what we do for fun on the internet. nerdy, sure. self-important, maybe. narcissistic? eh, i'm not so sure. a minor quibble...

^^ white dude making fun things less fun

No offense, but I'm personally content with leaving all that shit in the other thread. This should be the safe place where we exercise our narcissism without fretting over it. IMNO.

ok, cool. was trying to be welcoming of hurting's post, not thinking about the stated focus of this thread.

Is there a (publicly available) complete list of contributors, so that you can look at individual ballots from a list of names? I'm guessing not, given the number of voters.

have you guys ever heard of radiohead, thinking of checking him out