The Pitchfork People's List - top albums 1996-2012

all of this was a cool idea, and i like how they put effort into breaking it up by age, gender, genre, the "distinction index" (although i'd like to be able to drill down into each result that lands on the distinction index to understand the key variable).

but unfortunately in the end it all has to rely on user input, and that means that all of the cool tools and way to re-slice the data only allow you to see all the different kinds of combinations that radiohead, arcade fire and neutral milk hotel can make up a top 5

keep the tools, ban all users

is there a way to see a list of results that excludes all ballots containing Neutral Milk Hotel?

Now that I'd like to see.

gotta say i'm impressed by the turnout, 27 thousand voters! that much participation is kind of invariably going to flatten out to some depressing results, though.

if you guys are friends with the PFM editor on Facebook, there's a lively discussion going on. Raymond Williams has come up once.

In actual factual honesty I'm wondering where the borderline between Reader's Poll as Converse ad vs. Map of Indie Rock as Camel ad lies.

my ultimate takeaway from this poll is that Converse are now some boring ass shoes

I told a hippie the other day that Converse are owned by Nike. My glee as their face fell was pretty mean, in hindsight.

cf is this it blurb: " so I immediately traded my cargo pants for jeans, bought a pair of Chucks, started a band, dreamed of NYC, and was never the same."

the distinction index for ages 16-20 is horrifying and hilarious

― some dude, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:04 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

the whole list is horrifying and hilarious

distinction for 26-30 (i.e. my age group) makes for sad reading, stuff that was hip when we were in our late teens / early 20s that's now more or less forgotten.

― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:22 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha thats my group too & i was thinking the same thing. i mean though, shit, i'll still definitely take mirah over arcade fire and fuckin bon iver

No no wait, really Merdeyeux?

Kids these days will never appreciate the greatness of Max Tundra.

that blurb is taking the piss

Really.

xxxp have a look yrself! (if you hover over entries in the top 20 you get a voter's blurb at the side.)

In actual factual honesty I'm wondering where the borderline between Reader's Poll as Converse ad vs. Map of Indie Rock as Camel ad lies.

― nedless summer (Ówen P.), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:40 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

one major difference being (i think) is that converse won't kill you

does anyone want to trade some jeans for some cargo pants?

years of wearing converse ruined my feet. i could pay for that with my life if, say, i encounter a lion.

That Doc Marten's shoegazing comp was so, soooo much better than this.

I mean that Camel suit went nowhere except "cartoons + cigarettes don't mix" but still, considering P4K's editorial position as being pro-bands, anti-Camel re: "unlawful use of our band name" part of that lawsuit, this is kinda o_O (unless contracts were signed, etc.)

I mean I don't care myself I'm a total shill

I feel more like needing to trade my converse sneakers for some actual shoes.

got a little excited about the geographic breakdown that listed Baltimore as having the most entries on the list after NY/LA/Chicago, until i realized they were counting Animal Collective

haha

my ultimate takeaway from this poll is that Converse are now some boring ass shoes

― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:41 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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I would love to see what type of list the ILXors who submitted ballots would generate

I expect it would be fairly similar only with a lot less Neutral Milk Hotel

I've not seen many gradations between ILX ballots.

Converse are fucking awful for flat feet.

Converse gave me flat feet

although I suspect running track in them for two years didn't help

NMH would have been on mine somewhere

You ran track in Converse? Fucking hell.

The NMH album is the one that baffles me most. A lot of these records I don't get the way other people obviously do - Arcade Fire, The National, Modest Mouse, etc etc - but I quite like a little bit of some of them. The NMH, though, is just fucking catastrophically awful to my ears.

Anyone else surprised that the highest ranking album of 2006 is The Arctic Monkeys?

Was wondering what Converse would be like for running actually cos they're pretty close to what's being marketed now as a minimal running shoe in the wake of the whole barefoot movement i.e. minimal cushioning, zero heel rise, allow plenty of flexibility in the foot

I copied all of the ballots people posted here with the intention of generating ILM-specific results but then I remembered I don't have Excel on this computer. I can email the txt file to anyone who's interested in taking it from there.

I was surprised to see that 1/3 of my ballot was represented in the top 200. I wouldn't have thought my tastes were that "mainstream".

The only thing in the results that really bends my mind is The xx in the top 20. I know people here like 'em, but they are just so completely ehhhhhh to my ears.

I mean, that's not too disimilar to what the Asics that I have now do xp

what's the correlation between the albums in these rankings and p4k scores? has a chart been made yet?

if you guys are friends with the PFM editor on Facebook, there's a lively discussion going on. Raymond Williams has come up once.

If you mean Mark, I don't see it -- altho maybe he has blocked me from seeing his posts.

::resists data nerd urge to get hands on ILX spreadsheet data::

The XX is blurb is just >_<

If you mean Mark, I don't see it -- altho maybe he has blocked me from seeing his posts.

check Weisb@rd's page.

running track in All-Stars was like strapping thin planks of balsam wood to the soles of your feet and then binding your ankles with duct tape

I had actual track spikes for meets though

The NMH album is the one that baffles me most. A lot of these records I don't get the way other people obviously do - Arcade Fire, The National, Modest Mouse, etc etc - but I quite like a little bit of some of them. The NMH, though, is just fucking catastrophically awful to my ears.

Here's the thing with me: I saw NMH completely by chance back in...'97, maybe? opening for Superchunk when I barely knew they existed, and it remains maybe the best show I've ever seen. At least top 3. And I got the records, which were kinda disappointing in comparison but I still kinda loved them for the imperfect copies they were. That said, I vastly prefer On Avery Island to In The Aeroplane... and would've voted for the former instead if it had been eligible.

xxp Ah I see, thx!

the distinction list for my age group is essentially a long list of "waht" with Get Ready and Beaucoup Fish mixed in

omg the blurbs

I like Amnesiac, really I do (it was #88 on my list), but I don't see how anyone could call it "the most cohesive Radiohead album" with a straight face

Going by age group, my taste is about 5 years younger than my physical age. :-/

So does the distinction index really mean "this was unpopular with everyone outside this group" rather than "this was popular with people in this group"?

That said, I vastly prefer On Avery Island to In The Aeroplane... and would've voted for the former instead if it had been eligible.

Ha, the funny thing for me is that I bought On Avery Island in late '96/early '97, was mostly let down by it (except for "Song About Sex"), and so never even bothered with NMH after that. I didn't hear Aeroplane until like 2005, after it was already being spoken about with reverence by a good number of my friends.

So does the distinction index really mean "this was unpopular with everyone outside this group" rather than "this was popular with people in this group"?

― Tim F, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:17 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

i think so, yeah, like in contrast to the 'points' lists that just show every age group liking OK Computer more than anything else