The Pitchfork People's List - top albums 1996-2012

Argh. Look at the second half of that.

when does p4k NOT verge on self-parody and was there even the tiniest chance these results would not be the most self-parodic of all

distinction for 26-30 (i.e. my age group) makes for sad reading, stuff that was hip when we were in our late teens / early 20s that's now more or less forgotten.

are my reviews self-parody?

is there a single album in the top 200 that wasn't in their awards database

also old people really like drive-by truckers and apparently fountains of wayne

somewhat surprised by all that stuff ahead of tigermilk on the 1996 list. soundtracks for the blind!

Yeah, the Electronic and Pop/R&B distinction indexes are pretty good, i.e. I'd listen to them.

But it's just weird to me that the Pop/R&B one slants as heavily female (90%?) as the general list slants male? There is definitely something going on there.

you ever notice that the genres of pop and R&B slant more heavily female than indie rock? amazing, huh

it's almost...it's almost like what i was saying over and over upthread about what genres you listen to having a big impact on the gender makeup of your record collection has some merit to it

xxpost probably just a combination of the fact that those genres have more successful female artists and that those people who do vote heavily for R&B and Pop are also much more likely to vote for female artists.

e.g. I think it's probably true to say that as a general rule someone who listens to a lot of pop is also likely to listen to a higher proportion of female (or female fronted) rock and rap when they do listen to those genres.

It's almost as if correlation and causation are ~exactly the same thing~ huh

x-posts

this radiohead shit is getting out of control, y'all

even voters age 16-20 had both kid a & OKC in their top 3

two most egregious placements: james blake at 72 (i mean honestly) & the weeknd at 102 (i quit the game)

after seeing MBDTF in the top 10, i was actually surprised at how well 'college dropout' did. it beat panda bear!

really, so being a bigger R&B fan than a metal fan doesn't cause any kind of effect on how many female musicians you listen to? none at all? xpost

it's almost as though a genre which traditionally reaches its listeners via the male-dominated medium of the music press ends up with more prominent male artists than a genre which traditionally seeks to appeal to young women and girls

what we were talking about were the processes by which indie and metal became "male-dominated" whereas pop and r&b did not

I mean, I like Radiohead and I'm a bit embarrassed by those placements.

But, you know, it's almost as if... people who are told over and over "this is the greatest album/artist of all time!!!!!!!!!!11" actually go on to listen to it, and therefore rate it.

why are we trying to zing each other with truisms

melissa did a pretty good job of predicting the results, huh

two most egregious placements: james blake at 72 (i mean honestly) & the weeknd at 102 (i quit the game)

what game did you think you were playing tho

wtf is that reader quote for MPP

i can believe that Don Johnson's life is a deranged hippy rave

Likewise the Distinction Index for Pop/R&B:

POP/R&B:
TOP ALBUMS VOTED BY PEOPLE WHO SELECTED POP/R&B AS THE GENRE THEY LISTENED TO MOST
# POINTS
KANYE WEST MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASY
RADIOHEAD KID A
RADIOHEAD OK COMPUTER
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE FUTURESEX/LOVESOUNDS
DAFT PUNK DISCOVERY
ARCADE FIRE FUNERAL
THE STROKES IS THIS IT
KANYE WEST THE COLLEGE DROPOUT
THE XX THE XX
M.I.A. KALA
OUTKAST STANKONIA
ROBYN BODY TALK
JAY-Z THE BLUEPRINT
NEUTRAL MILK HOTEL IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA
BJÖRK HOMOGENIC
KANYE WEST LATE REGISTRATION
BEYONCÉ 4
OUTKAST SPEAKERBOXXX/THE LOVE BELOW
LCD SOUNDSYSTEM SOUND OF SILVER
THE WHITE STRIPES ELEPHANT

Haha -- even the R&B list has a token R&B album. (I understand why this would happen, obv.) (Though I don't understand "pop/R&B.")

no Amy Grant :(

DJP you gotta admit that's verging on self-parody.

sure, but Janelle Monae is my musical girlfriend

i lol'd uncontrollably at the blurb for the interpol album

“Tense, moving and tactically arrogant; the soundtrack to anything after dark. It's a shame the lights have never since shone so bright.”
Mark McLennan

ooh, there are blurbs?

i'd buy a coffee table book of reader blurbs left on the cutting room floor

Still hate that Neutral Milk Hotel record.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 7:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

;_; they didn't use my Third blurb *shuffles sadly back to Java/C++, remembers paycheck, does a dance*

Only blurbs for the top 20, presumably taken from the comments people were allowed to make for their faves. Sad the rest of the 200 doesn't get them.

this list is a disaster

Only 3 of my top 10 are in the list at all, but 10 of my top 20 are.

Only 6 records from my entire list made it. I am clearly not their target audience!

apparently none of the people who made actually interesting lists are their target audience!

all of this was a cool idea, and i like how they put effort into breaking it up by age, gender, genre, the "distinction index" (although i'd like to be able to drill down into each result that lands on the distinction index to understand the key variable).

but unfortunately in the end it all has to rely on user input, and that means that all of the cool tools and way to re-slice the data only allow you to see all the different kinds of combinations that radiohead, arcade fire and neutral milk hotel can make up a top 5

keep the tools, ban all users

is there a way to see a list of results that excludes all ballots containing Neutral Milk Hotel?

Now that I'd like to see.

gotta say i'm impressed by the turnout, 27 thousand voters! that much participation is kind of invariably going to flatten out to some depressing results, though.

if you guys are friends with the PFM editor on Facebook, there's a lively discussion going on. Raymond Williams has come up once.

In actual factual honesty I'm wondering where the borderline between Reader's Poll as Converse ad vs. Map of Indie Rock as Camel ad lies.

my ultimate takeaway from this poll is that Converse are now some boring ass shoes

I told a hippie the other day that Converse are owned by Nike. My glee as their face fell was pretty mean, in hindsight.

cf is this it blurb: " so I immediately traded my cargo pants for jeans, bought a pair of Chucks, started a band, dreamed of NYC, and was never the same."