so people who are 'experimental' really rate Fennesz. Are they any good?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)
35ish of my top 100 are in their top 200.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)
Fennesz is one dude, and is very good, yes; blissed out digital decaying guitar noise with hidden melodies.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)
fuckin hell the 10-15 yr olds are mad for last years strokes album
― pandemic, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)
thank you Scik Mouthy!
Looking at this list now... I mean, woah! It took a year to find out something that could have been estimated within about 5 minutes. I'm actually surprised at how unsurprising this is.
― Here's that tenner I owe you, asshole (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:23 (thirteen years ago)
i think Fennesz became the go-to experimental guy for sites like Pitchfork a few years back because you could talk about the Beach Boys and stuff when writing about him. He is good though, yes
― Number None, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)
I still don't understand what 'global' is supposed to be
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)
Still hate that Neutral Milk Hotel record.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:24 (thirteen years ago)
I'm trying to work out what "Pop/R&B" means. (Apart from "will actually rate women.")
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)
Old fennesz review I wrote - http://www.stylusmagazine.com/reviews/fennesz/venice.htm
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)
Accidentally closed the tab now can't get back into the site. Just as well.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)
No Four Tet. Sadface.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:26 (thirteen years ago)
I only like one record that is among the top 20 heavily favoured by my age group.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)
Radiohead seem to be on every genre list including Americana, Metal and Rap/Hiphop - WTF?
― Here's that tenner I owe you, asshole (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)
OIC, ignore me.
― Here's that tenner I owe you, asshole (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)
People in my age group must be trying to euthanise themselves through listening to boring music
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:36 (thirteen years ago)
ohhhhh I get it, it was a Converse ad.
― nedless summer (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:38 (thirteen years ago)
Not a single tMG album. Outrage!
― all the worlds a stage and kitty's just stepped into the spotlight (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)
the distinction index for ages 16-20 is horrifying and hilarious
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)
LOL at the 4 R&B albums to scrape the top 200:
The Weeknd at 108Frank Ocean at 172Janelle Monae at 177Drake at 199
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:14 (thirteen years ago)
don't lol at Janelle Monae
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:17 (thirteen years ago)
The Distinction Index for Electronic is pretty good!
% DISTINCTION INDEX52.52% MICHAEL MAYER IMMER52.32% BOOKA SHADE MOVEMENTS48.25% VARIOUS ARTISTS 5: FIVE YEARS OF HYPERDUB46.58% SEPALCURE SEPALCURE45.97% ACTRESS SPLAZSH43.44% ZOMBY WHERE WERE U IN '92?43.13% RUSTIE GLASS SWORDS42.05% ELLEN ALLIEN BERLINETTE41.32% RICARDO VILLALOBOS ALCACHOFA39.99% ELLEN ALLIEN & APPARAT ORCHESTRA OF BUBBLES39.62% BURIAL BURIAL38.96% LUOMO VOCALCITY38.64% ISOLÉE WE ARE MONSTER38.41% AFRICA HITECH 93 MILLION MILES37.78% MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR36.73% VITALIC OK COWBOY36.18% MOUNT KIMBIE CROOKS & LOVERS35.56% APHEX TWIN COME TO DADDY EP35.1% ALAN BRAXE & FRIENDS THE UPPER CUTS34.98% GOLDFRAPP BLACK CHERRY
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)
DJP you gotta admit that's verging on self-parody.
Likewise the Distinction Index for Pop/R&B:
POP/R&B:TOP ALBUMS VOTED BY PEOPLE WHO SELECTED POP/R&B AS THE GENRE THEY LISTENED TO MOST# POINTSKANYE WEST MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASYRADIOHEAD KID ARADIOHEAD OK COMPUTERJUSTIN TIMBERLAKE FUTURESEX/LOVESOUNDSDAFT PUNK DISCOVERYARCADE FIRE FUNERALTHE STROKES IS THIS ITKANYE WEST THE COLLEGE DROPOUTTHE XX THE XXM.I.A. KALAOUTKAST STANKONIAROBYN BODY TALKJAY-Z THE BLUEPRINTNEUTRAL MILK HOTEL IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEABJÖRK HOMOGENICKANYE WEST LATE REGISTRATIONBEYONCÉ 4OUTKAST SPEAKERBOXXX/THE LOVE BELOWLCD SOUNDSYSTEM SOUND OF SILVERTHE WHITE STRIPES ELEPHANT% DISTINCTION INDEX 40.84% BEYONCÉ B'DAY30.95% KYLIE MINOGUE FEVER27.74% AALIYAH AALIYAH27.22% MADONNA RAY OF LIGHT25.26% MADONNA CONFESSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR23.21% LILY ALLEN IT'S NOT ME, IT'S YOU21.85% LADY GAGA THE FAME MONSTER21.31% MAXWELL BLACKSUMMERS'NIGHT19.55% BEYONCÉ 417.81% ADELE 2117.26% ERYKAH BADU MAMA'S GUN16.98% KATY B ON A MISSION15.98% SALLY SHAPIRO DISCO ROMANCE15.37% THE-DREAM LOVE VS. MONEY15.08% MISSY ELLIOTT MISS E: SO ADDICTIVE14.36% ROBYN ROBYN13.71% RÓISÍN MURPHY RUBY BLUE12.97% AMY WINEHOUSE BACK TO BLACK12.94% MISSY ELLIOTT UNDER CONSTRUCTION12.49% ALAN BRAXE & FRIENDS THE UPPER CUTS
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:20 (thirteen years ago)
Argh. Look at the second half of that.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)
when does p4k NOT verge on self-parody and was there even the tiniest chance these results would not be the most self-parodic of all
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:21 (thirteen years ago)
distinction for 26-30 (i.e. my age group) makes for sad reading, stuff that was hip when we were in our late teens / early 20s that's now more or less forgotten.
― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:22 (thirteen years ago)
are my reviews self-parody?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:23 (thirteen years ago)
is there a single album in the top 200 that wasn't in their awards database
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)
also old people really like drive-by truckers and apparently fountains of wayne
somewhat surprised by all that stuff ahead of tigermilk on the 1996 list. soundtracks for the blind!
― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:31 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, the Electronic and Pop/R&B distinction indexes are pretty good, i.e. I'd listen to them.
But it's just weird to me that the Pop/R&B one slants as heavily female (90%?) as the general list slants male? There is definitely something going on there.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)
you ever notice that the genres of pop and R&B slant more heavily female than indie rock? amazing, huh
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:35 (thirteen years ago)
it's almost...it's almost like what i was saying over and over upthread about what genres you listen to having a big impact on the gender makeup of your record collection has some merit to it
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)
xxpost probably just a combination of the fact that those genres have more successful female artists and that those people who do vote heavily for R&B and Pop are also much more likely to vote for female artists.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)
e.g. I think it's probably true to say that as a general rule someone who listens to a lot of pop is also likely to listen to a higher proportion of female (or female fronted) rock and rap when they do listen to those genres.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)
It's almost as if correlation and causation are ~exactly the same thing~ huh
x-posts
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)
this radiohead shit is getting out of control, y'all
― a hoy hoy heat (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)
even voters age 16-20 had both kid a & OKC in their top 3
― a hoy hoy heat (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:40 (thirteen years ago)
two most egregious placements: james blake at 72 (i mean honestly) & the weeknd at 102 (i quit the game)
after seeing MBDTF in the top 10, i was actually surprised at how well 'college dropout' did. it beat panda bear!
― a hoy hoy heat (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)
really, so being a bigger R&B fan than a metal fan doesn't cause any kind of effect on how many female musicians you listen to? none at all? xpost
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:41 (thirteen years ago)
it's almost as though a genre which traditionally reaches its listeners via the male-dominated medium of the music press ends up with more prominent male artists than a genre which traditionally seeks to appeal to young women and girls
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)
what we were talking about were the processes by which indie and metal became "male-dominated" whereas pop and r&b did not
I mean, I like Radiohead and I'm a bit embarrassed by those placements.
But, you know, it's almost as if... people who are told over and over "this is the greatest album/artist of all time!!!!!!!!!!11" actually go on to listen to it, and therefore rate it.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:42 (thirteen years ago)
why are we trying to zing each other with truisms
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:43 (thirteen years ago)
melissa did a pretty good job of predicting the results, huh
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)
what game did you think you were playing tho
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)
wtf is that reader quote for MPP
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)