Great music discoveries from other people's (p4k) lists I want to talk about

hey a hoy hoy, thanks for pointing out to my list upthread. it ended being a rough draft of sorts but i'm glad a few ilxors are getting something out of it.

ReRe: US Maple. you need to listen to acre thrills cos that's the paroxism of al johnson in terms of stealing/mocking every rockish vocal cliche out there. basically the guy never put together so many "ohyeahs", "alrights" and "heeeeeeys" as on acre. it is also their best 'riff' record to me. so so many great guitar lines, those two cats (rittmann + shippy) are undisputed champs in my book.

i meant paroxysm, sorry for the typo

I love that this thread is turning into a US Maple lovefest.

Well it is a thread about the best music of the last 15 years they were bound to come up

ultraglide in black vomit

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:39 PM (2 hours ago)

lol, not a fan i take it?

Couple of albums that possibly missed out because I didn't see them in the database (and I didn't do any write-ins): John Zorn "A Dreamers Christmas"... Group Doueh "Guitar Music From Western Sahara"...

― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:40 PM (2 hours ago)

aw shit. that's two more on the "forgot to remember" pile:

Masada Chamber Ensemble - Bar Kokhba
Group Doueh - Guitar Music From the Western Sahara

Surprise surprise, I love seandalai's list. Though he does include some stuff that I discounted - I went for no comps in the end, and stuff recorded in '77 (Langley Schools I'm looking at you) is pretty definitely a no-no in my book.

Yeah, I broke most of my self-imposed rules at various points. Langley Schools I half-rationalised on the basis that it was barely released first time round.

OK, there were only 2 things that really weren't on Spotify (Capsule and... someone else I've forgotten) and in some cases the album I chose wasn't available so I chose something else representative by that artist. I did it "backwards" so it starts with my number 50, one song from each album.

http://open.spotify.com/user/masonicboom/playlist/4EY0P1pseHIk5Vf90iFE2Y

Now I'm gonna start with some other lists, starting with Dan's. Awesome, looking forward to it!

woah, emily flew off the handle a bit upthread, chill out love.

Props to this thread for getting me to check out the Wolf Eyes/Braxton collabo...this is intense.

I'm still working my way thru' emil.y's list. So far I love Comet Gain and Matmos. Paavoharju was on both hers and seandalai's list I think and that has me more fascinated than head over heels in love atm. I keep going back to it tho' so there's something there just beyond my reach.

I should probably try to give When Saints Go Machine another go.

I do just have so much trouble with that guy's voice. But the track on Dan's list is nice in an Active Child sort of way.

WSGM's album is unassailable to my ears - it's like a warm bubblebath of sound for me. I get that people don't like the guy's voice, but it really doesn't bother me. I think it's fun to think of his voice as a celestial Chubby Checker rather than the obvious Antony comparison.

WCC: try "Church And Law" and "Konkylie" from that WSGM album; the former is a Knife-esque pop stomper and the latter is a madrigal

When Saints Go Machine is the first band in awhile that seems to both win fairly universal ILM approval and make me wonder if I'm maybe listening to a different WSGM than everyone else. I could not get into it at all. But then I used to despise Royal Trux, who are now one of my all-time favorites, so I know that some acts are growers.

dude's voice is an example of the importance of context for me; there are a bunch of things which I would (and do) consider ugly or unappealing about the way he sings, but he slots so well into the music that the negatives become positives and it all makes sense to me

seandalai's list is grrr8. as are many others. i'm feeling kinda left out after not getting around to this but the world probably won't miss a list topped by ys. or maybe i'd have been interestinger and gone for sapphie. the world will never know.

weird thing about wsgm's dude's voice is that on first listen he sounded exactly like arthur russell to me (like to the extent that i thought they had sampled a song i somehow hadn't heard), but now i hear only a slight touch of that in him.

DAMMIT I forgot to vote for of Montreal (corny indie fuX0rs etc blah blah)

btw re this wolf eyes / anthony braxton album - i have a hair police / wolf eyes split tape, the wolf eyes side of which is a braxton collab (even though it isn't credited as such) - is this the same thing?

dude's voice is an example of the importance of context for me; there are a bunch of things which I would (and do) consider ugly or unappealing about the way he sings, but he slots so well into the music that the negatives become positives and it all makes sense to me

― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:12 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. I would normally hate that kind of soft-pallet type thing, but it hey, it works here.

i like arthur russell too though.

Merdey: What's Sapphie?

i have a hair police / wolf eyes split tape, the wolf eyes side of which is a braxton collab (even though it isn't credited as such) - is this the same thing?

― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:00 AM (2 hours ago)

somebody on discogs says that the wolf eyes side is a boot of the WE/braxton album. i don't own the tape, so i don't know for sure

Sapphie = amazing Richard Youngs album

http://www.pitchfork.com/peopleslist/

the list came out. radiohead were in the top ten of hiphop listeners twice.

damn you, Kanye

I don't know what I expected but this Radiohead/Radiohead/Arcade Fire/NMH result seemed all but inevitable and is really kind of depressing

what is it about In Rainbows? I just don't get that album at all, at least not as an entire body of work; there are individual songs on it that I like but none I've really felt compelled to go back and play

like, I feel like its placement/canonization is almost entirely due to the band giving it away for free

i think i was v wrong in expecting a bit more variety. not much more but meeeeh.

chill out love.

o_O

Sapphie = amazing Richard Youngs album

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

lol, not a fan i take it?

― contenderizer, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no I love ultraglide in black! I was riffing on "Black Vomit" which I posted upthread alongside the Dirtbombs comp.

anyway, bugger that, i'm back on the listening train. Picked Sexuality by Seb Tellier.

what is it about In Rainbows? I just don't get that album at all, at least not as an entire body of work; there are individual songs on it that I like but none I've really felt compelled to go back and play

like, I feel like its placement/canonization is almost entirely due to the band giving it away for free

tbh I feel like it's nearly impossible for any Radiohead album past, say, Amnesiac to really be evaluated fairly, on its own terms. In Rainbows is short and sweet but I think it's also the point where a lot of people realized, four years on since Hail to the Thief, that hey, maybe I'm not really a big fan of these guys despite what everyone tells me

also Wolf Eyes/Braxton is Anthony Braxton playing a live gig with Wolf Eyes. classic if only for the exchange at the beginning here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUzctEOvsh4

"Anthony, whaddya wanna hear man, 'Leper War' or 'Black Vomit'?"
"Black. Vomit."

tbh I feel like it's nearly impossible for any Radiohead album past, say, Amnesiac to really be evaluated fairly, on its own terms. In Rainbows is short and sweet but I think it's also the point where a lot of people realized, four years on since Hail to the Thief, that hey, maybe I'm not really a big fan of these guys despite what everyone tells me

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

that theory would've held a lot more weight before King of Limbs

Radiohead's fine, but I barely listened to Hail To The Thief and haven't heard anything they've done since. And I have a suspicion that I only rate Kid A as highly as I do because it was a really amazing album to hear for the first time while doing whippits.

Hail To The Thief is easily my favorite album by Radiohead and I strongly encourage everyone to listen to it again, particularly "There There", "The Gloaming", "A Drunken Punchup At A Wedding" and "Myxomatosis"

I have bad news for you, ILX: for all the complaining about Radiohead that you're doing, you like Radiohead just as much as Pitchfork voters do.

Top artists by vote (unweighted)
rank - artist - number of votes

1 - Radiohead - 66
2 - Various Artists - 48
3 - OutKast - 42
4 - Animal Collective - 37
5 - Daft Punk - 34
6 - Kanye West - 33
7 - Jay-Z - 32
8 - Belle And Sebastian - 31
9 - Missy Elliott - 30
10 - Spoon - 30
11 - Boredoms - 29
12 - LCD Soundsystem - 28
13 - The Knife - 27
13 - Basement Jaxx - 27
13 - Erykah Badu - 27
13 - Björk - 27
13 - Broadcast - 27
14 - Boards of Canada - 26
14 - Destroyer - 26
15 - The-Dream - 25
16 - PJ Harvey - 24
17 - The Mountain Goats - 23
18 - Yo La Tengo - 21
18 - Ghostface Killah - 21
18 - Aphex Twin - 21
19 - The Strokes - 20
19 - Cat Power - 20
20 - Portishead - 19
20 - M.I.A. - 19
20 - Dizzee Rascal - 19
21 - Vampire Weekend - 18
21 - Stereolab - 18
21 - The Magnetic Fields - 18
21 - Panda Bear - 18
21 - Clipse - 18
22 - Robyn - 17
22 - The Avalanches - 17
22 - Sonic Youth - 17
22 - The Streets - 17
22 - DJ Shadow - 17
22 - Luomo - 17
22 - Joanna Newsom - 17
22 - Junior Boys - 17
23 - Sleater-Kinney - 16
23 - Air - 16
23 - Burial - 16
23 - Arcade Fire - 16
23 - Deerhoof - 16
24 - Scott Walker - 15
24 - Neutral Milk Hotel - 15
24 - Justin Timberlake - 15
24 - Kate Bush - 15
24 - Elliott Smith - 15
24 - D'Angelo - 15
25 - Studio - 14
25 - Spiritualized - 14
25 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - 14
25 - Madvillain - 14
25 - Low - 14
25 - Caribou - 14
25 - Built to Spill - 14
25 - Jim O'Rourke - 14

(Oops, sorry for "various artists" at the top there, just move everyone else one ranking up)

lol I was expecting that

I've always felt like Hail was pretty underrated, there were just massive and IMO unreasonable expectations for it and when the result was "merely" very good a lot of people wrote it off. I do believe it could have snipped a song or two but that's really my go-to R-head album. I'm surprised many of these same fans praised In Rainbows so much, as it's really very similar to Hail, just shorter.

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

I've had trouble getting into Ultrahits myself, for all that people rave about it :) Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

Discovering the Herman Düne album 'Not On Top' has made this afternoon v enjoyable.

And we do like OK Computer, but not as much as Swedish pop, French house and Japanese noise, apparently. And Sinister still holds as much sway over ILX taste as Radiohead does.

Rank - Album - votes

1 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 24
1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 24
2 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 20
3 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 19
4 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 18
4 - Björk - Homogenic - 18
4 - Radiohead - Kid A - 18
4 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 18
5 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 17
5 - Portishead - Third - 17
5 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 17
5 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 17
5 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 17
5 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 17
6 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 16
6 - Outkast - Aquemini - 16
6 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 16
6 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 16
7 - OutKast - Stankonia - 15
7 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 15
7 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 15
7 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 15
8 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 14
8 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 14
8 - The Strokes - Is This It - 14
8 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 14
8 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 14
8 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 14
8 - Burial - Untrue - 14
8 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 14
9 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 13
9 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 13
9 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 13
10 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 12
10 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 12
10 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 12
10 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 12
10 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 12
10 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 12
10 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 12
11 - The xx - The xx - 11
11 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 11
11 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 11
11 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 11
11 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 11
11 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 11
11 - M.I.A. - Kala - 11
12 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 10
12 - Katy B - On a Mission - 10
12 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 10
12 - Daft Punk - Homework - 10
12 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 10
12 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 10
12 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 10
12 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 10
12 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 10
13 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 9
13 - Robyn - Body Talk - 9
13 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 9
13 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 9
13 - St. Vincent - Actor - 9
13 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 9
13 - Cat Power - Moon Pix - 9
13 - Björk - Vespertine - 9
13 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 9
13 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 9
13 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 9
13 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 9
13 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 9
13 - Air - Moon Safari - 9
13 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 9
13 - Fugazi - The Argument - 9
13 - Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles - 9
14 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 8
14 - Tortoise - TNT - 8
14 - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - 8
14 - Orbital - In Sides - 8
14 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 8
14 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 8
14 - Sleigh Bells - Treats - 8
14 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 8
14 - J Dilla - Donuts - 8
14 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 8
14 - Elliott Smith - Either/Or - 8
14 - M.I.A. - Arular - 8
14 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 8
14 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 8
14 - Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People - 8
14 - Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too - 8
14 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 8
14 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 8
15 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 7
15 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 7
15 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 7
15 - PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love King - 7
15 - Michael Mayer - Immer - 7
15 - Owen Pallett - Heartland - 7
15 - Nicolas Jaar - Space Is Only Noise - 7
15 - T.I. - King - 7
15 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 7
15 - The Rapture - Echoes - 7
15 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 7
15 - Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid - 7
15 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 7
15 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 7
15 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz! - 7
15 - Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - 7
15 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 7
15 - Dr. Octagon - Octagonecologyst - 7
15 - Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster - 7
15 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 7
15 - Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair - 7
15 - DJ Quik / Kurupt - BlaQKout - 7
15 - Built to Spill - Keep it Like a Secret - 7
15 - Annie - Anniemal - 7
15 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 7
15 - Beyoncé - 4 - 7
15 - Bat For Lashes - Two Suns - 7
15 - Caribou - Swim - 7
15 - Britney Spears - Blackout - 7
15 - Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See a Darkness - 7
15 - Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid - 7
15 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 7
15 - Destiny's Child - The Writing's On the Wall - 7
15 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 7

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

ha i didn't realize you were talking about THESE results, sorry for being a dick on the other thread

ilx likes Vision Creation Newsun more than Super Ae? weird

I'd love to see a weighted list if possible, please, WCC.

I wanna Seksu up

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:53 AM (7 minutes ago)

love the ILX list, so maybe i don't hate consensus after all. just wrong consensus.

Can definitely get with the People of ILX