Bolt the door, Varg is loose!

you liked Arcturus!!

confederates in the messageboard

hello?

THE RACUSM IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE THREAD!!!

why don't people just listen to other good black metal? there is a ton of it. unless you are siegbran. then you are just a lost cause and a lifer. and siegbran does own every graveland album. autographed even!

i was being sarcastic there.

i 100% reject the notion that the wearing of a burzum shirt indicates that one is "a little ok with racism"

it kinda does though! "I'm willing to advertise this album by a white nationalist" is at least part of what a Burzum t-shirt says, to a certain extent you don't get to define the terms of the brand you wear.

i really do think it means "racism doesn't effect my life".

i'd like to add a burzum tshirt related anecdote

a few years ago i was at the empty bottle in chicago, and i was there to see nachtmystium, and maybe yakuza? i don't remember who the other two bands were. who cares. anyway, it was around the time that there was a bit of brouhaha about the band going soft/darkwave/gothy/dance and the singer/guitarist/guy whose band it is had just gotten his hair cut much shorter (doesn't sound like a big deal, but i heard people talking!) and before the show he was hanging around the bar and...wearing a burzum tshirt.

by the time he went on stage, he had changed his shirt. i don't remember what the band was, only that he had changed it. i never really figured out what this meant, though -- to him, to the other people there, to whomever. (i also didn't ask anyone) does this happen all the time? i couldn't even figure out really what this said to me about him and his motivations to myself. i don't know the guy, i certainly can't read his mind. how would i know what that means?

tl; dr
in a way i think any one way of viewing burzum shirt wearing does not cover the spectrum of possible implications, so just airing out what it means to different people is a valuable exercise. at least i think so. also i suppose i am a hipster douchebag for being at this show in the first place. (j/k, i'm not)

i'm sorry if this has been said like 100x already
i skimmed a little

in a way i think any one way of viewing burzum shirt wearing does not cover the spectrum of possible implications, so just airing out what it means to different people is a valuable exercise.

I agree with this completely.

I hear smart guys are wearing their's under a chainmail tunic

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5202024014_4735a62ae9.jpg

That photo is mirror-imaged, that's actually a Muzrub shirt

i don't remember what the band was, only that he had changed it. i never really figured out what this meant, though

most people I know change shirts before they go onstage - it feels nicer to go onstage in a fresh shirt instead of what you've been wearing all day

Guys I'm making a new non-racist t-shirt line for you guys to wear

http://s11.postimage.org/bm5qe1b5f/mlk.jpg

omg

omg plz make that into a t-shirt

it feels nicer to go onstage in a fresh shirt instead of what you've been wearing all day
makes perfect sense. thank you for illuminating that -- and you see, i had figured as much, but there was so much baggage that it seemed like maybe i was missing something

would be so cool if theat picture of the four dudes with laptops was a picture of them onstage performing their new digi-metal epic. wave of the future.

http://www.backstreet-merch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/bur/bsi_bur59.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5SikkU_kX0s/TetgTt3xJ3I/AAAAAAAACv8/PlX1FP6XOpo/s1600/IMG_0827.JPG_effected.jpg

So not going to burzum

This is an Evil Needles DIY original. I totally reconstructed a licensed Burzum T-shirt into this custom top. It now has a more flattering shape, a low cut off the shoulder neck and shortened sleeves. This is a well made piece that's built to last. All ends have been serged to prevent fraying and then stitched on a regular sewing machine to make all the seams stronger. If you like this top but don't like the band I can make this exact top using an alternate T-shirt just click here.

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/a/0/0/e/2/AAAACimzYxoAAAAAAA4sZw.jpg?v=1156778392000

wow

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FupRlT83s48/TjXUYnzmYYI/AAAAAAAAAlw/FRSPbkKa0lI/s1600/burzum.jpg

don't do drugs, kids

you get more bang for your hate buck if you get the burzum eye of sauron shirt.

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35078435/aview/__KGrHqIOKjYE2KBR1t72BNpCQ_L_h____1.JPG

ooooh, you were quoting there! I almost thought your last name was an alias that meant you had sewn it yourself

a few years ago i was at the empty bottle in chicago, and i was there to see nachtmystium... it was around the time that there was a bit of brouhaha about the band going soft/darkwave/gothy/dance and the singer/guitarist/guy whose band it is had just gotten his hair cut much shorter (doesn't sound like a big deal, but i heard people talking!) and before the show he was hanging around the bar and...wearing a burzum tshirt.

― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, August 17, 2012 6:37 AM (1 hour ago)

it was also around the time that there was a bit of a brouhaha about the band's early association with a NSBM-affiliated record label, so...

put your money where your mouth is, hipsters.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6060/6285278976_70eed36b24.jpg

http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/jersey.jpg

What a shame about all that beautiful white skin, eh? xpost

burzum potleaf is lol

it was also around the time that there was a bit of a brouhaha about the band's early association with a NSBM-affiliated record label, so...

― contenderizer, Friday, August 17, 2012 10:31 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark
i knew that too (at the time and obvs now) so that was adding to the question: "why was he wearing the shirt in the first place", which has yet to be answered (not that i expect anyone to answer my question, just to note that the question has a variety of answers depending on who you're asking)

Like I know ppl lie to throw sociopath around but I wouldn't be suprised with him...like I bet he's from a totally nice family upbringing and went to good schools etc

Ppl do throw sociopath around, and the word often gets used as a weird synonym for TRUE EVIL PLS PUT THIS GUY TO DEATH etc etc but yeah Varg is a sociopath in the driest sense of the term, that seems beyond debate.

original Burzum logo + pot leaf + basketball singlet = my mind is confused

yeah the pot leaf is k-classic, can I get a ravey alien face w/that?

"why was he wearing the shirt in the first place", which has yet to be answered (not that i expect anyone to answer my question"

cuz he's a rad dude?

somewhat relatedly if you've never listened to black metal when you're really really high you're missing out

cuz he lets his freak flag fly?

cuz he doesn't conform to society's "rules" and is a "free thinker"?

yeah who knows
he had just gotten a haircut, that much is for certain

somewhat relatedly if you've never listened to black metal when you're really really high you're missing out

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, August 17, 2012 8:59 AM (1 minute ago)

otm, but then again, i was high when i decided i had to get rid of my burzum records. "why do i feel i need to own that playable swastika?"

high contederizer otm!

lol, in a similar state last night i thought about turning on a burzum record pretty much entirely bc of this thread (i was deciding between umskipstar which i haven't heard yet or classic filosofem) but then i was like there is so much other music in the world to listen to that i will definitely enjoy. so i listened to something else instead. i do not regret that decision.

see that's what i'm talking about.

how much will your life suffer if you don't listen to burzum? on the other hand i don't think i can live without my dissection records. on the other other hand at least he did the noble viking thing and killed himself.

fwiw i was trying to argue up there that music about forests is fascist. if you are writing songs about forests, you are making nazi music.

give these guys a wide berth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Forest

RIP The Cure ;_;

it's realy sad, they were gothcists