Pink Floyd vs. Joy Division

42 people are wrong in this poll.

One of them got arrested one morning for satanic massacre, but it wasn't her, just her friends.

― james k polk, Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:30 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

1985 Houston, TX On 8-5-85 a Satanic Cult comprised of Harold Glenn Smith, Martin Wayne Tosh, Michael Gene Cravey, Shannon Rivera, and Bridgette Stowe, ages ranging from 16-18, had grown tired of sacrificing animals and decided to move on to bigger game. Smith, known as “The Wizard”, decided to sacrifice Dennis Keith Medler to Satan, because he previously had kicked he and Tosh out of his home. Lured to a secluded area on the ruse of picking psychedelic mushrooms, all took turns slashing his throat. Smith told the victim’s lifeless body, “Hey Keith, it was nothing person, we just wanted to see someone die.”“The Wizard” received life, plus a $10,000 fine.

I had a crush on Shannon's best friend, she wasn't there that day, but she did get taken away. I remember one day we talked about the Beatles. She liked "Money Can't Buy You Love." I liked their Chuck Berry covers. I told her about an Elvis Costello song that had the same name as her. (not Shannon, the other girl) a few years later, I partied with her brother. I'm already deeper into my memory than I want to go.

In conclusion, people used to smoke pot and take LSD and pretend they were Gnomes on Bikes, but then they would go out at night and Insert things into Bodies. No Love Lost.

42 people are wrong in this poll.

― ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:30 (9 hours ago)

No, 84 people are right.

Ha. Voted JD -- obviously -- but delighted with this result all the same.

Hahahah Bimble is more Pink Floyd thank you...

Really, I love ILX. I mean who else, where else could you find something so ridiculous as a Pink Floyd vs. Joy Division poll?

it's so zany!

Hahahahah Frank Zappa might even be proud, who knows? LOL

I mean I'm just so happy we didn't have to go to war over Pink Floyd. Whew. We didn't have to have the barroom brawl. Everyone is happy. Oh man. Whew.

Ugh, this is not right. So not right.

No, it is the will of ILX. We can live with this. We can. Yes we can.

it is a thing of rare and wondrous beauty.

joy division live >>>>>> joy division >>> syd barrett floyd >>>>>>>>> post-barrett floyd

all this talk of curtis being a bad singer is insane

joy division live >>>>>> joy division >>> syd barrett floyd >>>>>>>>> post-barrett floyd

I'm inclined to agree with this.

i prob would too, though i've never heard any live JD.

apparently joy division >>><<< pinkfloyd

no way. joy division >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<pinkfloyd

Norm Coleman will see you people in court!

PiL greater than either!

i prob would too, though i've never heard any live JD.

Oh noes! The "collectors edition" of both Unknown Pleasures and Closer have an extra disk that's a whole live set, and they both kill.

Les Bains Douches is also pretty amazing.

joy division live >>>>>> joy division

I'm inclined to disagree. I love the production on the JD studio records, so many neat little tricks that I keep rediscovering.

They're two different equally overwhelming beasts. Listening to live JD at deafening volumes, especially the aforementioned Les Bains Douches, is adrenaline rush-inducing. And if you'd only heard the live stuff, for some reason, the otherworldliness of the studio recordings would be a bit shocking, I imagine.

do we have a thread live jd vs. studio jd? if not, i guess we need one. i would give a lot right now to see them live, i missed to see them at the time. the live cds and bootlegs are fine and huge but seeing them live would have been a very different story. has there ever been a band with such a powerful sound and such an obsessed singer? i don't think so.

The Eternal on the Preston 28 February 1980 live album -- the version without Hooky because the bass/bass amp/whatever has blown up -- is the single bleakest, most terrifying thing I will ever hear. Actually, that entire album is mind-fuckingly brilliant.

(I mean, obviously a load of that bleakness and terror is because you know what lay around the corner, but even so ...)

Yeah it's got In Utero appeal like that.

ilXor Last.fm group weekly chart for the week ending January 25, 2009

No. 1 Animal Collective

No. 2 Kanye West

No. 2 David Bowie

No. 4 Joy Division

No. 5 Radiohead

No. 6 The Beatles

No. 7 Fever Ray

No. 7 The Velvet Underground

No. 9 New Order

No. 10 Cut Copy

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No. 217 Pink Floyd

proven by science????

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-15557211.jpg?size=572&uid=%7BBC606FFF-8194-4FFD-94EE-6864B504BC68%7D

How'd I miss this one? Just as well, really, as I don't think I could pick one over the other. Today, though, Joy Division wins.

freakish tie

i never believe the poll results on ILM. too many people with multiple accounts.

A tie? Oy vey.

think about it -- there are some striking similarities (besides the fact that they are four of my all-time favorite bands).

frankly, the comparison is really incomplete when you exclude New Order. because Floyd was quite a different band post-Syd (though with almost all of the same people), just like New Order was a very different band than New Order. and they BOTH discovered synths AND dance music ("another brick in the wall") AFTER ian/syd.

"Another Brick in the Wall" is not dance music. And that comp title (A Collection of Great Dance Songs) is, whaddya call it, ironical.

i was really trying to be funny ... but "another brick in the wall" IS set to a disco beat (or as close to one as these plodders could get).

Number 57 on the Billboard club play/dance chart in 1980, too. According to Dave Gilmour, "It wasn’t my idea to do disco music, it was Bob’s. He said to me, ‘Go to a couple of clubs and listen to what’s happening with disco music,’ so I forced myself out and listened to loud, four-to-the-bar bass drums and stuff and thought, Gawd, awful! Then we went back and tried to turn one of the [song’s] parts into one to those so it would be catchy."

Big of Gilmour to admit to being a reactionary tool.

I like the idea of him sitting in camouflage in the corner of a nightclub taking notes, too.

Camo was more echo and the bunnymen tho.

not liking disco music != being a reactionary tool xxp

The only singer worse than Ian Curtis is the mopey dork from Tindersticks .

I like that he was like "this sucks...I'd better write something just like it!"

Floyd was quite a different band post-Syd

"Post-Syd" encompasses the period from, basically, right after "Piper" hit the streets! He was barely useful during the recording of "Saucerful."

nd they BOTH discovered synths AND dance music ("another brick in the wall") AFTER ian/syd.

Uh, synths weren't really available when Syd was a contributing member of the band, so this is hardly an insight.

"run like hell" gots some of the disco beats up in it too. always wanted a full-on dance mix of it tbh.

oh anag I like you and enjoy your posts based on knowledge but in all honesty

not liking disco music = being a reactionary tool feels as close to a fact of nature as nature wanders

PS the subtext here is "don't argue u reactionary racist" [better chattin' about stuff u enjoy than the rest of the ingrasable onionverse]

wait are you saying I'm a reactionary racist