poll cru
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)
no poll cru there's no poll crut either
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 12 August 2012 01:25 (thirteen years ago)
we need nominations cru (or crut)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)
do the Mekons fit the criteria?
― JoeStork, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)
yes
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)
Alright then
Mekons - Fear and WhiskeyThe Clean - Boodle Boodle BoodleTall Dwarfs - Hello Cruel World
― JoeStork, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:51 (thirteen years ago)
Results of the previous 80s poll
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:00 (thirteen years ago)
Will infact post the old results here since JF wanted no more posts over there100. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains [1984] (75 points, 5 votes)98. (tie) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Hole [1984] (76 points, 5 votes)98. (tie) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription [1987] (76 points, 5 votes)97. Big Black - Atomizer [1986] (77 points, 8 votes)96. Associates - Sulk [1982] (79 points, 6 votes)95. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking [1988] (79 points, 7 votes)94. Def Leppard - Pyromania [1983] (80 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)93. Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless [1982] (80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)92. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Dazzle Ships [1983] (80 points, 9 votes)91. Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell [1986] (80 points, 10 votes)90. Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II [1984] (81 points, 9 votes)89. Prince and the Revolution - Parade [1986] (83 points, 10 votes)88. Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love [1987] (86 points, 7 votes)87. Pet Shop Boys - Actually [1987] (86 points, 8 votes)86. Pet Shop Boys - Please [1986] (87 points, 8 votes)84. (tie) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine [1989] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)84. (tie) Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues [1983] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)83. David Bowie - Scary Monsters [1980] (89 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)82. Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Nail [1985] (91 points, 5 votes, 1 first place vote)81. The Beat (aka The English Beat) - I Just Can't Stop It [1980] (91 points, 13 votes)80. Various - The Indestructible Beat of Soweto [1985] (93 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)79. The The - Soul Mining [1983] (93 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)78. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash [1985] (93 points, 16 votes)77. Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun [1985] (94 points, 8 votes)76. U2 - The Joshua Tree [1987] (95 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)75. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual [1983] (95 points, 9 votes)74. Galaxie 500 - On Fire [1989] (96 points, 10 votes)73. X - Wild Gift [1981] (97 points, 9 votes)72. The Chills - Kaleidoscope World [1986] (98 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)71. Roxy Music - Avalon [1982] (99 points, 10 votes)70. Laurie Anderson - Big Science [1982] (99 points, 11 votes)69. Scritti Politti - Cupid & Psyche 85 [1985] (100 points, 7 votes)68. New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies [1983] (100 points, 16 votes)67. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes [1983] (101 points, 12 votes)66. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen [1985] (104 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)65. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly [1982] (105 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)63. (tie) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs [1985] (106 points, 12 votes)63. (tie) Cocteau Twins - Treasure [1984] (106 points, 12 votes)62. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing [1981] (106 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)61. Arthur Russell - World of Echo [1986] (108 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)60. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full [1987] (111 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)59. Mekons - Fear and Whiskey [1985] (111 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)58. The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me [1987] (112 points, 7 votes, 2 first place votes)57. Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa [1984] (112 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)56. R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant [1986] (112 points, 12 votes)55. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me [1987] (115 points, 13 votes)54. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. [1984] (118 points, 14 votes)53. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska [1982] (120 points, 14 votes)52. Brian Eno / David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts [1981] (120 points, 17 votes)51. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man [1988] (121 points, 11 votes)50. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms [1980] (123 points, 13 votes)49. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane [1988] (125 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)48. XTC - Skylarking [1986] (127 points, 16 votes)47. Steely Dan - Gaucho [1980] (128 points, 9 votes)46. R.E.M. - Reckoning [1984] (131 points, 14 votes)45. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station [1980] (133 points, 11 votes)44. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace [1985] (136 points, 13 votes)43. Sonic Youth - EVOL [1986] (143 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)42. Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising [1985] (146 points, 14 votes)41. The Cure - Pornography [1982] (148 points, 9 votes)40. Dexy’s Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels [1980] (148 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)39. Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 [1984] (154 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes)38. New Order - Substance [1987] (156 points, 16 votes)37. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [1989] (164 points, 23 votes)36. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour [1982] (166 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)35. ABC - The Lexicon of Love [1982] (173 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)34. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow [1984] (173 points, 16 votes)33. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [1987] (174 points, 20 votes)32. Prince - 1999 [1982] (191 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)31. Sonic Youth - Sister [1987] (199 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)30. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade [1984] (200 points, 13 votes)29. Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth [1980] (200 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)28. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses [1989] (201 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)27. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction [1987] (201 points, 18 votes)26. Prince - Dirty Mind [1980] (210 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)25. The Clash - Sandinista! [1980] (211 points, 11 votes, 3 first place votes)24. The Cure - Disintegration [1989] (218 points, 19 votes, 1 first place vote)23. The Human League - Dare [1981] (219 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)22. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything [1988] (229 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes)21. Paul Simon - Graceland [1986] (237 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)19. The Replacements - Let It Be [1984] (252 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)18. Joy Division - Closer [1980] (255 points, 24 votes)17. Kate Bush - The Dreaming [1982] (269 points, 13 votes, 3 first place votes)16. New Order - Technique [1989] (273 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)15. Pixies - Surfer Rosa [1988] (273 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)14. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden [1988] (274 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)13. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique [1989] (291 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote)12. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime [1984] (300 points, 15 votes, 3 first place votes)11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead [1986] (307 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)10. Pixies – Doolittle [1989] (323 points, 31 votes)9. Michael Jackson - Thriller [1982] (331 points, 35 votes)8. Kraftwerk - Computer World [1981] (338 points, 29 votes)7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation [1988] (356 points, 28 votes, 3 first place votes)6. R.E.M. - Murmur [1983] (359 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times [1987] (381 points, 28 votes, 2 first place votes)4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love [1985] (422 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain [1984] (423 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back [1988] (478 points, 39 votes, 2 first place votes)1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light [1980] (568 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes)
The 2 polls will be quite different then (doubt we will get as many ballots but who knows!)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:04 (thirteen years ago)
JF was it you who ran the alternate 70s poll ? was it just albums from the previous 70s poll you didn't allow or was it any band who had an album in the top 100 you banned?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:10 (thirteen years ago)
It was only the 100 albums that placed in the original 70s poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:16 (thirteen years ago)
Did you never fancy doing an alternate 80s poll?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)
It hasn't even been three years since Tuomas's poll. Figured it could probably wait a while longer (there was a big gap between 70s mkI and 70s mkII).
I did ever so briefly toy around with the idea of a worst of the 80s poll, but preemptively decided it was a dumb undertaking.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:21 (thirteen years ago)
The idea is good actually but the problem is a lot of the worst albums noone will in their right mind have played them since the 80s and younger people should be unaware of them. It would just turn into anti-canon/big album bashing.But if that's what you want then you should go for it! The butthurt that ensues would be lolz
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:24 (thirteen years ago)
has there been a 1960s poll?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
Yep, all the decades have been covered both albums and tracks-wise except the 50s, which was just tracks.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:26 (thirteen years ago)
Wonder how an alternate 60s albums poll would turnout. Would everyone just vote a beatles album that didn't make the previous poll as winner?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:28 (thirteen years ago)
Better late than never. ILX 60'S POLL PART TWO - THE ALBUMS
Only a top 50 posted, less than 300 even nominated. That could probably stand to be redone at some point (no offense to Billy Dods).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
oh cool
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)
my other idea for a poll (as i wanted to leave the power pop poll to you as its a genre you love) was a funk poll. But I realised that we wouldn't get double figures in ballots unless we included soul and that just obviously defeated the purpose of a standalone funk poll. I'm not sure we've had a soul poll so maybe that will get done in the future. It deserves a tracks/albums poll.I would love it if someone ran a reggae poll some time.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:35 (thirteen years ago)
Genre polls are tricky (see rap and metal and this very weird poll here). Tuomas is slated to do a disco poll in the current poll schedule (after we get through a couple dozen more artist polls) and that will probably even be controversial, even though everyone knows what disco is when they hear it. I've never had any desire at all to run a genre poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
not even a genre you love?
I just realised that Geir will hate this poll as everything he likes probably wont be eligible!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)
Years and artists are easy. Labels too. Genres are hard and completely arbitrary and people get rowdy because the rules aren't clear. I like clear rules. (i.e. Was it released between 1970 and 1979? Okay, it's eligible.)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:44 (thirteen years ago)
well you certainly don't get problems with purists in those polls at least
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:47 (thirteen years ago)
but genre polls are fun.
i know you enjoy participating on them too
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)
jazz might not be your thing but that was a very enjoyable poll to do.The metal poll was mostly as well.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:10 (thirteen years ago)
now please get your nominations rolling in.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 05:44 (thirteen years ago)
DNA - A Taste of DNAMars - 78
― Hellhouse, Monday, 13 August 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
lol jesus man
― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 13:49 (thirteen years ago)
not in favour of jf redoing it?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
just re-doing the exact same poll that was done less than 5 years ago, for likely a very similar result, strikes me as wasted time. maybe something like that alternate 90s poll we did a while back where every album that placed in the previous 90s poll was disqualified, would certainly make room for a different look at the 60s.
― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)
I'm not in a terrible hurry to redo any poll at the present time, btw. If I were to tackle the 60s, I'd definitely go the "alt-60s" route and exempt the 50 albums that placed in the original poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)
contenderizer,
Coincidentally, I found a copy of Paul Roessler's Pandemonium Shadow Show Featuring Twisted Roots (1983, Iridescence) in a thrift store today and there are some serious pop keyboards on this.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)
Has Kira on bass, Dix Denney of the Weirdos on guitar.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
Gerber on vocals
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:23 (thirteen years ago)
bump for new nominations?
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:14 (thirteen years ago)
― timellison, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:12 PM (Yesterday)
how have i not heard of this?
...just spent a few minutes looking. doesn't appear to be avail for download anywhere :(
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:26 (thirteen years ago)
http://images.buyninjacostumes.com/leonardo-turtle-costume.jpg???
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:44 (thirteen years ago)
I was under the impression that the poll was on its way to being killed by a death by a thousand cuts when it suddenly imploded. in the event of zombie resurrection:
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1Ike Yard - s/t Prong - Primitive OriginsSuicide - Half Alive
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)
I guess if Bruce is out then John Cougar Mellencamp is too?
― o. nate, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)
80% of the postmortem conveniently written already:
The concept of a 'Taste Vocabulary' - unread
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:26 (thirteen years ago)
hah.
Can we have more nominations please? No point in opening voting until the electronic poll voting has stopped as it would be unfair on them incase people want to vote in both
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)
Assuming there is enough people interested in voting?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)
you may need to make an official pronouncement vigorously disputing the notion that the poll is sorry sack of death. also, while I don't feel that your aesthetic parameters are particularly oddball, have you considered letting people nominate literally any 80s album they think rocks, leaving it to the voters to sort? or, otoh, actually making the poll narrower (eg metal/punk/noise rock)? just my .02.
― Hellhouse, Friday, 17 August 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)
no
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)
just to be clear, I like the general idea of the poll (and was also just making a bad joke about the poll's limbo status). also, pop is obv the main focus of ILM, and I understand wanting to stick w/a rock poll. other people seem v. confused by the criteria, tho, and I threw those ideas out there to address that. nbd
― Hellhouse, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
yeah I know its cool. Nominations are always a bit slow until theres an end date.Thread does need to have chat though to keep it on SNA so people are reminded.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
I don't really see any place for someone like me in this poll. I listen to rock. I'd say there was a point in my life when I listened to MOSTLY rock. However, a bunch of the college rock shit I'd nominate has already been nominated and there's not much point in nominating hair metal that no one will vote for besides me and maybe two or three other people.
Of course, I'd consider Siouxsie to be a rock band (if you've only ever heard "Peek A Boo" or whatever, I'd understand your inclination to say no). And Pretenders (especially album #1). And Bryan Adams's Reckless, which was one of 1984's best mainstream rock albums.
But this was never really a poll about rock music. It was a poll about was AG considers rock music. Instead, I think we should all show up at his house and letter-grade his cd collection.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:50 (thirteen years ago)
no it isn't. its about a different poll from the usual already been done 80s rock poll that Rolling Stone likes to do
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)
bump
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 18 August 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)