Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZaU3VtMfoM

totally forgot Foetus! The tense threw me off.

I suppose because of Fogerty not owning his songs I had the plesaure of hearing "Down on the Corner," "Lookin' Out My Back Door," etc licensed in the eighties for grocery store commercials.

I remember the day I discovered the subtle nod to Up Around the Bend in Wish You Were Here, though. See if you can find it!

staleprince otm

possibly what ruined ccr for me was seeing a tv commercial for a greatest hits of theirs which ran constantly for a year or so when i was a kid.

haha this commercial is one of my earliest musical memories + is the reason why CCR was my first favorite band

"i dunno. the beach boys at least sung about the culture in the region of the country they were from." yeah, but--the culture of California IS fantasy, right? It's not like the Beach Boys presented themselves as realist chroniclers of quotidian California....

(btw I like both varieties of bullshit mythos in question!)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgD9rg0EdcA

I think despite my dad owning the first several Creedence albums, I wouldn't have been nearly as familiar with CCR if it hadn't been for those commercials.

I was familiar with them before the ads started, so they struck me as utterly bizarre. Imagine, say, Led Zeppelin or Neil Young being marketed like that -- that's what it felt like.

Wow, I remembered the song sequence in that commercial almost perfectly. It really left quite an impression.

I was familiar with them before the ads started, so they struck me as utterly bizarre. Imagine, say, Led Zeppelin or Neil Young being marketed like that -- that's what it felt like.

yeah, but that's to CCR's credit. they're not just some rock band. they actually made music people like, people who might conceivably order an album from the televison. they're operating on a zamfir-type level.

Pretty sure CCR had nothing to do with those commercials, right? All the recordings were owned by Fantasy and Fantasy dealt them out to the highest bidder (or basically anyone who offered them a buck).

i dunno. the beach boys at least sung about the culture in the region of the country they were from.

^yep a chubby, depressed introvert living with an abusive father/manager singing songs about surfing and hot rods

sure but i'm guessing no one in the fogerty family were noodling on the weekends or whatever. at least dennis surfed, etc

i guess that makes it authentic then

Who cares either way?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPlXU65NTI

Haha, that commercial. I still have that 3xLP that I bought ON THE TELEPHONE!!!

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Peter G.

Who cares either way?

as a rockist, i care a lot

the band

i guess that makes it authentic then

surely it's more authentic if you are singing about stuff that you are first-hand observing and that your brother and cousin (who is also writing lyrics) then ccr-approach which was just more from

but i mean, "who cares?" is i guess otm. if you're complaining about mythos of place then you might as well throw in time and then all retro-leaning bands can be indicted

John Fogerty wrote most of the big hits when he was toiling in shitty minor league baseball shithole towns in the central valley and midwest, god bless him.

occurred to my on my evening walk that dylan is probably the single person who most deserves credit for bringing that folk- & country-derived sensibility into rock music

Um, I think that sensibility has pretty much been there since the beginning - like Elvis Presley, for instance?

I think he meant aside from Elvis, Roy Orbison, Buddy Holly, and several thousand other singers...

folk/country music has always dealt w/ that kinda thing -- pretty sure the carter family was marketed as "back to that ol' good time mountain music"

John Fogerty wrote most of the big hits when he was toiling in shitty minor league baseball shithole towns in the central valley and midwest, god bless him.

the central valley back then (and huge swathes of the east bay as well, which btw feature(d) plenty of backwoods mountains and marshes/wetlands too) was rural as fuck. Fogerty really did drink Green River etc

Um, I think that sensibility has pretty much been there since the beginning - like Elvis Presley, for instance?

― o. nate, Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

folk/country music has always dealt w/ that kinda thing -- pretty sure the carter family was marketed as "back to that ol' good time mountain music"

― tylerw, Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:02 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tylerw otm that the sensibility in question has always been a pig part of folk & country music.

lol "pig part"

big part

lol rockist criticisms of ccr

so wait, had fogerty actually experienced true authentic choogle or was theirs a false choogle?

there is only one choogle

One does not simply choogle out of Lodi...

no you manufacture your counterfeit choogle from the safety of El Cerrito

was theirs a false choogle

thanking u

I suppose Fogerty's faux bayou-isms do look pretty silly next to the genuine down home americana of Robertson/Danko/Hudson/Manuel.

Who were all a bunch of Canadians.

Except Levon of course...

I'm astonished that you don't consider Canadians to be genuine Americans. Canada's part of North America, GET IT?

the only genuine americans are from arkansas

do they have a bayou there?

Let's see, El Cerrito CA to Bayou St. John Louisiana = 2270 miles

Toronto to the bayou = 1310 miles

So Robbie Robertson has a legitimate claim to being "born somewhat closer to the bayou".

On the other hand, San Francisco to the mountains of the moon = 238,857 miles. Posers.

Don't forget that Robbie's mother was a Mohawk so he is the most American of all.

no one in the band was named virgil, nor did they go hungry in '65

poseurs

Levon was the most authentic person in any of these bands & garth hudson had the most authentic beard, so everyone vote for the band

One funny thing about Creedence that I just remembered is that I used to always see Cosmos Factory in the used bins and think it was some kind of dodgy compilation or weird italian pressing or something because of the goofy cover. Like my brain couldn't compute that that was the actual cover of their biggest album. I like it now though.

yeah, they should have gone with the original concept

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/cosmo2.jpg

check out the sex face on this fogerty

Electric Creedenceland

Someone's chooglin' John in that picture.