so i think i'm gonna add four of the five i brought up - whitney gets a save because it seems like are pretty happy with that album, a genuine triumph rather than riding on fumes.
Garth Brooks, Sevens (10x platinum)Celine Dion, Let's Talk About Love (10x platinum)Backstreet Boys, Black & Blue (8x platinum)Bon Jovi, New Jersey (7x platinum)Eagles, The Long Run (7x platinum)Guns'n'Roses, Use Your Illusion I & II (7x platinum each)Limp Bizkit, Chocolate Starfish & The Hot Dog Flavored Water (6x platinum)Journey, Frontiers (6x platinum)ZZ Top, Afterburner (5x platinum)50 Cent, The Massacre (5x platinum)U2, Rattle & Hum (5x platinum)Billy Joel, River Of Dreams (5x platinum)Bob Seger, Against The Wind (5x platinum)R.E.M., Monster (4x platinum) Eminem, Encore (4x platinum)Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, The Art Of War (4x platinum)Boston, Third Stage (4x platinum)Genesis, We Can't Dance (4x platinum)AC/DC, For Those About To Rock We Salute You (4x platinum)Lionel Richie, Dancing On The Ceiling (4x platinum)Spice Girls, Spiceworld (4x platinum)U2, How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb (3x platinum)Paula Abdul, Spellbound (3x platinum)Def Leppard, Adrenalize (3x platinum)Mariah Carey, Heartbreaker (3x platinum)Huey Lewis, Fore! (3x platinum)Foreigner, Agent Provocateur (3x platinum)Rod Stewart, Blondes Have More Fun (3x platinum)New Kids On The Block, Step By Step (3x platinum)
that's 29 - would like to make it a solid 30 before posting a poll tomorrow.
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
ha if we can't think of anything i'll add Jewel
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
will seriously go back through the thread and my collection in a little bit, take another stab
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
the trick is to listen to them
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
Still think one of the INXS albums mentioned should be in there - but I think X rather than Welcome To Wherever You Are.
― Tim F, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
you guys
Creed, Weathered 6x platinum
two top 10 hits
preceded by 11x platinum Human Clayfollowed by gold-at-best side projects
they just recently did concerts playing the two albums before this in entirety back-to-backno weathered tour announced
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
INXS went straight to single platinum after Kick
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
i only held my tongue on Creed cause of the breakup and lowered expectations reunion that followed
― some dude, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
btw Nickelback's Dark Horse cleared 3 mil, should be on the master list imo
― some dude, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i can see that - looks like they hammered what they could into the top 40 over a long-ass time with far less success than the previous album, and the follow-up couldn't get anything in there. will add, guess we're at 31.
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
Despite the remarkable (esp. in the '00s) success of "All the Right Reasons," the follow-up never felt like an "event album" to me. Then again, Nickelback albums never seem to debut to a lot of fanfare; the aforementioned album was almost a sleeper smash, a record that sold in the mega-millions over two or three years because it spun off a fuckload of radio readymades over a long period of time and not because it struck a nerve at any one point. Which I guess speaks well of mass taste. But Mutt Lange made them almost listenable and who gave a shit then?
― mobs of burly teen christgaus (thewufs), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
i'm a little wary of people putting too much import into something "event album" - we're all deep enough into our niches that it's rather personal a perspective. We're all seasoned music fans here so it's real easy for us to not think an album is a big deal. But any album that sold north of 3x platinum and/or had a bunch of pop hits was pretty clearly an event to some degree, to some mainstream niche.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think to an extent it's enough that the industry treated an album like an event whether or not the public really perceived it that way
― some dude, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
everything here is an album a lot of people bought from an artist who'd already enjoyed massive success - that's event plenty.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
mc hammer and vanilla ice seemed to be dismissed upthread as one-album wonders who by definition can't have a new jersey moment but if spiceworld makes the final cut, then why not too legit to quit?
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
i think m@tt made a good point that VIce doesn't really count but Hammer prob does
― some dude, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
lol i remember the word hammer coming up but it wasn't until you wrote Too Legit To Quit out - first time it's been mentioned by name - that I actually remembered that album and not just please hammmer don't hurt 'em. soooo included, really glad it came up specifically now. Thank you!
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha, welcome!
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
If Third Stage was Boston's New Jersey, are you saying that Don't Look Back was their Slippery When Wet? Clearly, the first s/t album was their SWW, right?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
(why I nominated Don't Look Back originally)
though someone should definitely do a poll of the prince albums that have hit double platinum (1999 and purple rain are the only to go further)"Around the World in a Day" (1985), 2-times Platinum"Diamonds and Pearls" (1991), 2-times Platinum"Emancipation" (1996), 2-times Platinum"Batman (soundtrack)" (1989), 2-times Platinum"Musicology" (2004), 2-times Platinum― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:38 (Yesterday) Permalinknotable one of those is a 3CD and another was given away with concert tickets― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:39 (Yesterday) Permalinkand Batman was helped by the movie and Around the World by Purple Rain.Diamonds as the only one to get there under its own steam?― mr.raffles, Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:41 (Yesterday)
"Around the World in a Day" (1985), 2-times Platinum"Diamonds and Pearls" (1991), 2-times Platinum"Emancipation" (1996), 2-times Platinum"Batman (soundtrack)" (1989), 2-times Platinum"Musicology" (2004), 2-times Platinum
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:38 (Yesterday) Permalink
notable one of those is a 3CD and another was given away with concert tickets
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:39 (Yesterday) Permalink
and Batman was helped by the movie and Around the World by Purple Rain.
Diamonds as the only one to get there under its own steam?
― mr.raffles, Thursday, 9 August 2012 16:41 (Yesterday)
Didn't the "Cream" single get a major bump when Billboard switched to Soundscan sales figures while it was climbing the Hot 100 chart? I seem to remember hearing that the song wouldn't have reached #1 under Billboard's old sales reporting system.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
(But I mean I wasn't there: maybe the hype was really intense for Third Stage as an event album.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
The too legit to quit video was a huge event
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
it's more about the end of a run than that they literally only had two big hit albums.
Since some of the stuff appears to gets a little close to fairweather johnson territory, I'll note that only three albums are actual sophomore albums, and all had 3 or more top 20 hits on then. The rest all had at least two platinum records to their credit before their "new jersey."
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
3 or more top 20 hits on them, i mean.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
so basically none of the 33 or so albums listed were an immediate flop follow-up to a flash in the pan
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
I move that third stage be replaced with don't look back
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:10 (twelve years ago) link
(Seconded)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
weird to think BJ (lol) had 2 pre-Slippery albums, but of course "Runaway" is a classic.
― Euler, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
will just repost the logic for third stage
(4x platinum #1 album with two top ten hits including one #1, despite coming eight years after the last album. However, in 1987, Boston had gone 9x platinum, Don't Look Back 4x platinum and Third Stage 4x time platinum. Today, Boston is at 17x platinum, and Don't Look Back is at 7x platinum. Third Stage remains at four, and the follow-up, Walk On only went Platinum).
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
saying Don't look back is a new jersey kind of ignores that they not only failed to have a career decline but were actually able to just show up and say HAY eight years later and have a #1.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone ever heard 7800 Fahrenheit?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
no. the guy who mixed it did it with the monitors off
― we know about this ---˃ (electricsound), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
Speaking of Boston, does anyone have access to back issues of Musician Magazine? (I'm pretty sure it was Musician. Maybe Trouser Press, but I doubt it.) Their vicious review of Don't Look Back was one of my favorite.
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
i did see this awesome, awesome video from it on a Bon Jovi video retrospective my library supervisor taped off MTV (along with Bowie's Glass Spider special!) that I discovered when housesitting for her in the early '00s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6Y4xSa0HY
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I know that one single from it but that's all I've ever heard.
I see your logic with Third Stage. Don't Look Back does feel pretty hollow to me except for the title track, though, more so than NJ, in fact. (Quick: name another song from it.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
well i only know "more than a feeling" by name anyway, but it's probably more surprising i don't know any of the 3 pop hits off Third Stage than that I don't know any of the 70s radio stuff off DLB.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
well i only know "more than a feeling" by name anyway
Either this is a typo or you're not the man I thought you were!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
actually able to just show up and say HAY eight years later and have a #1.
Yeah, I'm not sure that Third Stage was that big of an event either and that the success of "Amanda" and the album wasn't due to its own breakthrough.
― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah i could probably hear a song, notice the repeated phrase and say "I'm guessing this is Boston because they have a song called Don't Look Back and this sounds like Boston saying 'Don't Look Back' a lot" but yeah I've never really dug into their work.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
and further discussion of which multiplatinum w/ hits album from an established act was or wasn't an "event" will be met with "your mom's an event"
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
I could understand not knowing "Don't Look Back" but "More Than a Feeling" has to be one of the most-played songs on American rock radio. I don't believe that you only know it by name.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
haha woops that IS a typo sorry. it's late!
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
Phew.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 August 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
It's like the first thing identified as what's being discussed in the thread title. And it seemingly refers to albums that were "events" upon release as opposed to defining event as some long term thing when something becomes popular over time.
― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
my point is that rather than have people say "gee that album didn't feel like a big deal to me," we're going to accept that a multiplatinum album with hits from an established artist was clearly an event to a good number of people.
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
besides, the lesser of the 33 albums will likely have goose eggs beneath the TRUE NEW JERSEYS when the poll is done
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's possible to argue that eight years away WAS a significant type of career decline even if they had a surprising comeback eight years later.
― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
please tell me you just really want to vote for Don't Look Back being the Best New Jersey
― da croupier, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
No, it took a long time for them to do Don't Look Back and then I know they had legal troubles and that was part of why they didn't put out another record for a long time, but I don't know if it was the whole reason. Point being that Don't Look Back does feel like the album that signaled something significant with their career arc and not Third Stage.
― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:54 (twelve years ago) link