Is it time for a TRIP HOP revival yet?

'only' doing a lot of work.

-similar musical praxis
-similar stock of musical refs
-roots in same local scene

HOW DARE U LUMP THEM TOGETHER!

the Bristol lot hated the term

xposts artists be hatin' labels shocker.

a) trip hop
b) big beat
c) downtempo
d) early electronica
e) protobeardomicrohouse

this one's got Ride on it FFS!

But seriiously, Four Tet isn't Trip Hop, is it?

completely wrong!

tori amos made a vaguely trip-hop album you know. it was really good.

also check arctic's "cream of trip hop" vols 1,2,3

and anyway the main audience for 4tet maps on 1:1 w/ trip hop - stay at home cornballs who rep wu-tang AND alice coltrane (wow!!!)

a) trip hop
b) big beat
c) downtempo
d) early electronica
e) protobeardomicrohouse

Dope Classics is too varied to make a judgement of this nature ;)

xp

yeah i guess... dunno where yr from, but i kind of feel this w. finney, who is (obv) great at the formalist stuff -- living through trip-hop in the uk (its main base, right?) you just end up with this perspective on it. is it hot, does anyone give a shit any more? stuff like that. 4tet was a friend of a friend, he djed at a party we had. none of us was a stay-at-home cornball rly!

A lot of artists made transitions from "warm" to "cold" (insofar as sampled drum breaks are "warm" and programmed beats are "cold") at around this point.

A good example of the shift is from Post to Homogenic: from sampladelic technicolour to robo-sheen.

Or from Crazysexycool to Fanmail

Or from Bedtime Stories to Ray Of Light

One artist I've never quite gotten is DJ Cam. All the stuff I've heard by him was v. v. dry and limp.

It just wasn't very cool. Dare I say that oftentimes (not always) British popular music of black origin can seem a bit ungenuine/uncool when compared to their American counterparts? Many of the TripHop bands I lump together with Aswad and Zion Train - acts that tried very hard but became the pasttime of a certain type of person - being used constantly on TV ad slots, or being praised by the socks'n'sandals crowd. TripHop made out that it was all dark and underground but really it was the soundtrack to a thousand crap dinner parties.

Fourtet came out of the IDM scene and was one of the forerunners for the bastard child Folktronica - any musical similarities to Trip Hop are coincidental.

I see Trip Hop as a fad that was at it's biggest between 1996-1998 and disappeared as quickly as it appeared.
The music generally had a gloomy, murky dubbed out feel, often mixing downtempo hiphop beats and jazz/blues samples with every mid-90s rockist's favourite sound of "scratching". Generally there'd be a laconic rapper with an Afro-Bristolian accent or a female singer crooning sultrily as if she was wrapped in a blanket of cigarette smoke. Or both.
The majority of bands took their queues from, well, Massive Attack mainly who made a big wave of Bristolian sound-a-likes, some better than others. Promising bands like Portishead and Sneaker Pimps quickly fell into a creative rut when they realised they only had one idea. And then there was the inexplicably popular yet incredibly bland Morcheeba who sadly managed to out-last most of the decent crop.

tim -- always with the hot-and-cold!

similarities to fourtet are "coincidental", huh?

True, true. The sampled loops got replaced by bleeps and hits. Breaks became Electro. Jazzy Drum'n'Bass became Digital Drum'n'Bass. Chillout became Minimal/Microhouse. Trip Hop became (?) I'm tempted to say the stuff on the Global Communications Fabric mix would count as Trip Hop for the digital revolution.

problem here: 'frozen' (craig armstrong arrangement! kinda mezzaniney?), and 'ray of light' (very warm record!).

Madonna in 'Ray Of Light' phase was all about converting the 90s stuff she dug but had failed to incorporate in her work prior to that point hence trying to get Aphex to produce it originally, then Howlett before settling on Orbit (whose 'Strange Cargo' albums laid whales and dolphins and Beth Orton over 'Trip-Hop beats' but also good for that trance lean she seemed to want). she got the Kruder & Dorfmeister remix treatment round that time too.

yes, this is because the whole hot/cold thing is overplayed! most trip hop sounded boring and clinical, ie cold!

what it means is that in 00s pop music started being informed primarily by Electro rather than primarily by Funk as it had been in the 90s.

xpost

i was that age too, but i have a strong feeling it's no straw man but a real thing. like in 'this life' innit.

oh, but you will because this looks excellent:

http://www.soulseduction.com/common/item_detail.php?ItemID=162539

it opens with David Behrman!

xp was pretty disappointed with that ASO album tbh. Songwriting felt a bit lacking and aimless.

new chelsea wolfe songs gives me those olde tyme triphop vibes. in a gothier/industrial/ebm way. i was actually going to revive a trip hop thread the other day! must be a new day dawning. a new era of people lying down while making and listening to music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4KJRuADHQE

Can anybody ID the droney flute-y thing the DJ is talking over (starts at the 50 second mark)? I don’t think it’s from abstract hallucinating gases or even by vadim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtHV9hzKEt8

#bluntedbeats

the Pejzaż song on that trip hop Spotify playlist is so cool

Recommend last year's Natural Wonder Beauty Concept album to anyone who hasn't heard it. Definite trip hop mood, there's moments on there that sound like Lamb or someone, really good record

And cosign on the Acopia too

Really liking the Saffron Bloom album. Brooding, instrumental trip-hop

https://open.spotify.com/album/24TRwtQvlJdcCFzjZ4TM9z?si=uuvGtrNVQ_2z5g-GE85kmQ

The Logic1000 DJ Kicks album from earlier in the year is going to be featuring very highly on my EOY ballot. Amazing mix

https://logic1000.bandcamp.com/album/dj-kicks-logic1000

That’s is a dope mix thanks for the recommendation!

yeah Lukas tipped me to that on the chill out moodz thread. Really dope and inspiring.

The new Lucrecia Dalt album has an arty trip-hop feel to me.

https://lucreciadalt.bandcamp.com/album/a-danger-to-ourselves

I like this! (the Logic1000 DJ Kicks)

Don't feel like I have anything to add beyond astonishment at my oldness and out of touchness at continually finding new artists with millions of playcounts who seem to specifically up my alley, yet I've never even heard mentioned before

The silos, they are so very deep but extremely narrow

Really liking the Saffron Bloom album. Brooding, instrumental trip-hop

https://open.spotify.com/album/24TRwtQvlJdcCFzjZ4TM9z?si=uuvGtrNVQ_2z5g-GE85kmQ

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just listening to this now, very cool, kinda reminds me of bowery electric a litle?

Enjoying Eternal Game by Teleself. Quite blunted.

https://appendixfiles.bandcamp.com/album/appx-16-eternal-game