Grifters: C er D?

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haha yeah eventually. I lived a couple other places first. now I'm in Brooklyn. still see a bunch of those people.

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dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Breeze! Here's how you summon Jeff Breeze!

KCOU KCOU 88.1 BIG STAR ALEX CHILTON JODY STEPHENS GRIFTERS MEMPHIS GREG DULLI VAN DYKE PARKS ROAD TRIP TO CHICAGO ROLLERBLADES KCOU JEFF BREEZE UP AGAINST THE WALL MOTHERFUCKER.

And nah, Tripp. It was up in the rafters of the Blue Note while Seam was playing. Grifters are still in my top five Memphis bands.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

sooooo, who are you guys?
if you don't mind me askin'


yeah, the Clears were Alicia Trout and Shelby Bryant and Brad.... something.

Alicia is like the queen of memphis now. she's awesome.
if you go to myspace look for River City Tanlines or Contaminated Records.

Shelby put out some stuff on Steve Shelly's label . Look for
Cloud Wow Music.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot about the rollerblades!

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, that show with Seam was when we first met you guys.
I believe you guys smoked us out that day.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

d@ve r3nard
I was PD for a while at kcou
I think the time I came to memphis it was with kristen and jennie

dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Grifters, Club Soda, Kalamazoo, 96? Amazing. You guys and Royal Trux were my most very favorite bands during my college years. I still dig ya hard. Crappin is my fave, with One Sock Missing and Sub Pop 10" close behind. I thought the last two records were just a little too clean sounding.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

We didn't mix FBP which I think was the problem. But Aint My lookout is unanimlously the band's favorite. It seems Crappin' is unanimously the fans' favorite.

but yeah, FBP is sorely lacking in the chaos department.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

we got the band back together and in May 2000 did a show in memphis

LPOE? If so, yeah that was on time. I tried to make the Murphy's show w/ Wallendas the other night, but was road worn. (Juicy J was, up until a couple of months ago, my boss. I know S. from when Yvonne B used to make me go to yoga with her. Ok, she didn't make me.)

Will (will), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

If any of you guys ever see Jenny (can't remember how to spell her last name..) Tell her I said hey.

Kristen found me via the grifters myspace page so that was cool.

Stan's 15 year old son runs the grifters page but I give him stuff for it all the time.

I'll try to put up that live version of Crashing Jet sometime.


Also, if you look on our friends list and go to Flecton Big Sky that's our old friend Miche Jette. the songs on his page are from his record that features der grifters backing him up (as well as Califone). Those recordings represent the last time the grifters recorded together.

we did record 2 songs later that year but the tape was lost forever so the Flecton recordings are it.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/flectonbigsky

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

the songs on his page are from his record that features der grifters backing him up (as well as Califone).

rad ... I will check that out

I saw Kristen a couple years ago at (drumroll) ... an nyc Bloodthirsty Lovers show. ha.

dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

i had one of the grifters records in college that i don't remember too well except i really liked Red Red Meat at the time and i make a connection in sound in my head w/the two bands. now that there's a califone mention, am i not making this up?

jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

grifters and red red meat toured together, jaxon. i booked them (with rex) in college.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Red Red Meat were good friends of ours. We used to tour together a lot.

I still see Tim whenever Califone's in town. Which is never enough for me.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

now I'm gonna listen to One Sock Missing tonight

dmr (Renard), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

if you guys stop by the Dragoon page every now and then in the next month I'll try to repost all our stuff. Which, honestly, a lot of it pro-tools tomfoolery. We're trying to get our first record recorded in the next few months.

http://www.myspace.com/dragoonmemphis


Also, if you frequent the BOB page, right now I'm kind of posting stuff from our tenth grade year (1982 or so) but pretty quickly it'll get into our eh.. less-goofy years and you can start to hear me and Stan find our footing as musicians.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

oh.. if you look at dragoon's pics page you'll see not only Stan in all his drastic-weight-loss glory but if you look closely at the 4 track that's the 4 track der grifters recorded so much stuff on.

still works.

you have to be a huge nerd to give a shit.

I'm sorry I broke up your black panther party.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Send all fan mail to THE GRIFTERS c/o Raleigh Springs Mall, Memphis.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god. I thought I was posting in a field of relative strangers.


I've made a huge mistake.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

..is--

Is this the Goner board!??! AW SHIT!!

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

jk

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

grifters. red red meat. rex. i remember that tour. i saw it at the bowling alley in chicago.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

tripp! hey man -- great to read through this thread, and see you're doing well, and to hear the story with the reunion, etc. the "soda pop" single is one of my favorite rock and roll records, easy peasy. am psyched to check out your new band and stuff!

somewhere i still have awesome 4 track cassette recording of that show at barking legs in chattanooga (also known as the one where ***kicked*** that exercise ball into the overhead light, and better known to me personally as the first date with my ex-wife).

speaking of wives, when stan jokingly introduced me to his wife as "the fifth grifter," i was so totally weirdly elated by that. hah.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

thshould read: YOU kicked... just so's you remember the show; i certainly hold no grudges!

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

man i cannot fricking type. toomuchcoffee.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:57 (nineteen years ago)

MIKE! Whassup mang?! yeah, of course i remember that Chattanooga show. that was our best SCTV moment ever. I'm just glad nobody was hurt. yknow cause the brunt of the lawsuit would've landed on me. ha.

Used to talk to your little brother sometimes but it's durn good to hear from you. When's the new Yeti coming out?

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Crappin You Negative and Eureka E.P. are two of my all-time favorites.

Piddlebach is the coolest fucking song ever recorded.

I am done here.

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

i miss being able to see y'all, but am v. happy to hear about Dragoon. i did get to see that last Flower Booking anniv. show (which was great), but my favorite was seeing you guys on FIRE at the Khyber around 1994 or so (with Bardo Pond and Versus, if I remember correctly) -- you got permission from the mayor to rope the place off and light up, which most of the audience then did.

city worker (bmcnee), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

good times. Definitely one of the most hilarious acid trips ever was with the Strapping Fieldhands in Philly. Funniest part was slinking into some greasy spoon down the street from the Khyber Pass just as the sun was coming up. Me and Scott and Bob malloy and 4 or 5 other people. Some old guy in the diner got up and threw open the blinds and started screaming 'BURN! BURN!' at us like we were vampires.

Bardo Pond's done pretty good for themselves, eh?
We had a collective band-crush on Isobel.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I am a complete stranger who sadly never even saw you live but felt the need to turn up and say that the Grifters were great (or at least what I've heard, which is nothing before Crappin') and this is an awesome thread revival that will see me digging out my Grifters cds, tracking down the releases I never had and listening to the tracks Tripp mentioned again in a new light. Thanks! Please "nerd up" the board some more.

ALSO I listened the hell out of the Shelby Bryant album after a friend picked it up by chance on emusic and loved it, and it just seemed so totally out there that I don't know if I'm excited to read that he was in other bands or if I don't want to hear them in case he begins to make sense. It tickles pretty much the opposite neurons to the Grifters for me though, just as a warning to anyone who might scratch their heads at my excitement.

Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

x-post -- the new YETI is in 2 1/2 months! should be fun. my brother is doing swell and says hey.

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.smellslikerecords.com/theclears/index.php?artist=The%20Clears


everyone should own the Clears' first (only?) cd.

Every single track is fantastic AND it was recorded in my old apartment (by Roy Berry)

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

was brad pounders in the clears?

and have we mentioned the simple ones yet? that's kinda mandatory with a grifters/memphis/indie thread.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

btw, going to shangri-la records in 94 was such a huge deal for me. i took a train from kalamazoo, mi, to memphis BECAUSE i was so into all this memphis stuff

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/jettywebb


this is a band I played with from late 98 to 2001.
I wasn't doing too much musically after the grifters'
initial demise so I was elated when my friends Stu Sikes
and Brian McKay called and asked me to join.

Initially the band was the 2 of them with Max Tepper.
Max moved back to NYC and started the band Natural History
but we carried on with some guest guitarists. One of whom was
Tim Prudhomme who lived in Mempho for about 5 years.

If you listen to the song Song In F you can hear pretty much
every guitarist who ever played in the band. It was a song Max
kinda started, then he left. In fact, when Max he announced it
to me first and the first thing out of my mouth was "Can we keep
Song in F?!"

So Max wrote a good chunk of the verse, Brian wrote the chorus
and I more or less came up with the bridge (bridges are my specialty)
and on the bridge you can hear Max's guitar, Brian's, Tim's, Jared McStay's, and Jerome's. (as well as my bass and I also laid down all the electric piano and mellotron.) So that one part of the song features performances recorded over the course of a year and a half.

It was pretty sweet being in a band with Stu because it meant we got to practice at Easley/McCain's. And record there for free basically.

If you like what you hear you can order it from Shangri-La.

http://www.shangri.com/cd_memphisindie.html

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Brad Pounders. yes.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'll do the history of the Simpletones in a bit.


ALSO I should mention that Max left us Song In F before any lyrics were written so we all took a try at writing them but ultimately we took a poem my wife wrote and rearranged it slightly. Then Jerome and Lori McStay sang it.

My wife cried just a little bit the first time she heard it.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jetty Webb finally broke up after Brian got transferred to Connecticut
and Stu moved back to Dallas where he began his meteoric rise to power as an engineer extraordinaire.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

also if you check out the Jetty Webb page
click on the link to LAMAR RECORDS' myspace page.


or here

http://www.myspace.com/lamarrecords

it's a little label me and Jared McStay started a few years ago
(Jared from the Simpletones, now owner of Shangri-La records)

We basically started the label so the Jetty Webb cd would see the
light of day.

We also put a STAFF ep. STAFF was me and Tim Prudhomme and Geoff Soule of the band FUCK. Technically, I'm still in Staff but Geoff now lives in Italy. Tim moved to New Orleans about a month before Katrina hit. They use whatever bass player they can get their hands on but if they're ever in my neck of the woods I get to be the go-to guy.


the other band on there is PAPER PLATES which is another band I got asked to join. I probably would've passed but Bobby (Dragoon) was writing really sweet pop songs and I couldn't resist. So I pretty much joined Staff and paper plates around the same time (2002)

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

The revival of this thread makes me very happy. Saw Grifters in Bethlehem PA circa 1994 or 1995 with Dambuilders and Mercy Rule. Awesome show.

And Breeze isn't that hard to find on the InterWeb, for anyone lookin'

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/shangrilagrifters

I put some live stuff from the 2000 reunion tour on the myspace page.

the version of Crashing Jet on there alright. the mix was a little wonky, drums are way up there. BUT it's the only version there is of us doing it.

the live version of Bronze Cast and Dayshift (which I'll post sometime soon) are from the same show. Lawrence, KS. December 2000. I believe we were playing with Califone that night!

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

dang I wish this board had an 'edit' function.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's one of the things we have to live with. Welcome, BTW.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

so it seems folks are looking for me... go figure... I guess google wasn't working or something :) ... actually Tripp just pointed me here as I MySpaced him to see if I could get help booking Black Helicopter (former members of Green Magnet School and Kudgel) in Memphis on their way back from SXSW.

For those looking to contact me, I can be found during my days right now at the Middle East where I'm in charge of local booking. I've also got a slew of bands I'm playing in that you can find online: myspace.com/mostbitter myspace.com/cbop most prominent among those.

Anyway for Grifters content: I still have my 'Grifters Rock My World' handmade t-shirt from that first show at the Blue Note (Monday Night with Zoom and Seam) (hey Tre, I always thought you were in the rafters with Dave not Tripp). I'm trying to recall how many states I saw the band play in but there's a lot between Boston and Texas and Atlanta (hey this is Superbowl weekend, you're not in some stripmall bar in Miami, are you?)

Last time I saw the band was at the Pilot Light in Knoxville which was a truly divine night in late 2000...

xoxo to all
Jeff

Jeff Breeze (Breeze), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

I just remember being in the rafters. Breeze was the only one who checked on me four hours later while I was passed out in the alley. I'll always love you for that, Jeff.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

I updated the BOB page a little

http://www.myspace.com/141849898

I don't expect anybody to be impressed but hopefully it'll make you laugh a little. But like I said, once it gets up into our senior year of high school things suddenly get a lot more rocking.


here's a little bit of trivia for ye..


...where to begin..?

I use to date this girl named Jean when I was like 21. It turned out she was Shouse's main squeeze and she was kinda using me to make him jealous. I guess it worked cause she dumped me after a month or so. But we remained good friends.
The first time I met Dave was at a DB's show at the Antenna Club in mempho circa 1987. He knew about who I was and I knew who he was and we didn't say much to each other.

So a while later they broke up. She and I hung out a lot (she was gorgeous and I had a huge crush) but she knew about BOB. I'd played her some stuff which she probably thought was terrible.

in late 1988 Dave met Scott through Think As Inca's drummer Paul Buchiniani (sp?). Paul and Scott went to school together and paul gave Dave a hot monkey tape. So that's essentially how dave and Scott met.
they tentatively started a band that had no name.

in early 89 I moved back to memphis after living in Roanoke Virginia for about 8 months. I ran into Jean pretty quickly and she told me her old boyfriend Dave was starting a new band and was looking for a bass player. She said she had told him about me and BOB and that he loved the name BOB for a band and, according to her, he wished he could've used it.

What did he come up with instead?

You guessed it.

BUD.

.....

I told Jean I wasn't interested if for nothing else i was scared to death of playing in front of people.

a month or so later jean pointed out to me that Dave had placed an ad in the Memphis Flyer. it said something like "Bass player needed. Influences: Mission of Burma, Pere Ubu.. (somebody else). call Dave"

I didn't answer and as far as I know only a couple of dudes did. And they didn't pan out so well.

So out of desperation Dave called me and we got to talking and it turned out he lived literally right around the corner from me so I walked over and he smoked me out and played me a few things. I think it was The Want, Daydream Riot, and an early version of Black Fuel to which I added the bridge.

And we were off.

I didn't meet Scott til a month later. He apparently was following the Dead around selling acid quite a bit back then. We finally met and realized we'd seen each other at the Tiger Den (the commissary at our college Memphis State) and it turned out he was friends with all the hippy kids in my art classes that I couldn't stand. Little did I know they would all end up being our original fan-base.

And they had some goood weed so that didn't hurt.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Tripp,
we met in about fk knows when when you toured England (around the time of Crappin'... _ about 1974? 85? or was it late sixties?).We spoke at my hometown venue, the Hull Adelphi - I was stalking you in the bogs and told you how great 'Thumbnail Sketch' was - and still is.Then saw you again with KillFkDozer in Leeds.
You were after weed again.

We made it to Mempho in '98 and amongst other less obvious sites, we made it to Shangri La and The Antenna - I swear i spooted two Grifters shirts there that night, but sadly it was some hardcore band from Ohio playing.

The Antenna was like a bigger Adelphi to me. Classy joint.

GRIFTERS - out and out classic to me.

Reformyafuckers

Cheers
Paul

Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Friday, 2 February 2007 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

Tripp,

Remember that time in the bathroom at the Corky's in Germantown with the german sherpard and the paraplegic fortune teller?

Steve Shasta
Professional Wakeboarder
Asst. Editor, WakeboardingOnline.com

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 2 February 2007 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

what's up Justin.

Tripp lamkins (trippl), Friday, 2 February 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

high five

dmr, Saturday, 23 August 2014 13:29 (eleven years ago)

I need to get on this.

Evan, Saturday, 23 August 2014 13:48 (eleven years ago)

awesome, got glasslands tickets.

adam, Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:28 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

I just saw this, and it was too great not to mention. Bunch of blue-collar guys just jamming on the street. I'm guessing they'll do a Bad Company cover...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL6ctSaNQVg

dlp9001, Friday, 8 April 2016 22:23 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Oh, to be, the state of the art, of boho/alt

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:24 (seven years ago)

nobody loves babies in bars
better than yourself

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:28 (seven years ago)

Still salty I missed the NYC show in 2014.

Evan, Saturday, 9 March 2019 21:45 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Cool jerk
No particular slogan
Signs are for the bottomless pit
Where nobody's going

earlnash, Thursday, 1 April 2021 01:57 (five years ago)

love that song so much

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 09:12 (five years ago)

one year passes...

i am

the mambo king

― mookieproof, Monday, April 19, 2010 1:31 AM (twelve years ago)

Wrapped tight in my tarantula skin

― CaptainLorax, Monday, April 19, 2010 2:45 AM (twelve years ago)

mookieproof, Monday, 11 July 2022 23:20 (three years ago)

one month passes...

The situation's growing hopelеss
So I pretended not to noticе

earlnash, Sunday, 4 September 2022 20:05 (three years ago)

three years pass...

yeah the games people play when they're spaced out are
okay

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 04:02 (eight months ago)

otm

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 11:08 (eight months ago)

Ha, no way at the posts further up this thread!

'She Blows Blasts of Static' and 'Bummer' are my favourite tracks in whatever that style is - should really explore more of their stuff. I always get silly-pissed off (I know its dumb, I can't help it) when people don't seem to hear/feel whatever I'm hearing/feeling in those grinding crunchy slacker guitars.

foghorn, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 11:44 (eight months ago)


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