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PARTICULARLY if you're going to put the DEEPLY DEEPLY OVERRATED "Head On" on there!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't kill him, Perry, as Just Like Honey shows taste.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually Dan, I was thinking partially of you when I suggested someone do a comp of their favorite tracks from the later albums!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

My comp would be Barbed Wire Kisses.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

that's why you're a mentalist!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm totally boring and unhelpful because my comp would be _Honey's Dead_ plus the remix of "Teenage Lust" from _I Hate Rock & Roll_.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

not that Barbed Wire Kisses isn't grebt/bording on perfection, but no "April Skies"? no "Just Like Honey", that's just weird, dude.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan, I'll throw it on tonight!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

it saves me a CDR spencer!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

is it me, or is the whole brmc/warlocks dress-black-dope-drone deal like basically existentially incorrect at this stage of the game? god knows i loved this shit for years, and the first two mary chain recs remain two of my faves ever, but it seems like the wrong way to sound/dress/live now. somebody smarter than me needs to put a couple of a hundred words together explaining why i am right.

― dan (dan), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

they just don't do it right. If they were actually cool/sexy it would work. I think the Strokes follow a similar kind of "cool" dress code and it works better for them. I guess nowadays with the pervasiveness of stylists etc, people withhold the bestowing of cool. When Jim and William dressed like the VU and spray stenciled c*nt onto their button down shirts (buttoned all the way up) it was like the coolest thing in the universe.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone heard the new JAMCha...I mean, Raveonettes?

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Spencer, I like you, but you've finally put a foot wrong here. Up your bum for not picking "Reverence"!!!! My favorite song ever!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

And I'd include "Sundown" for

the planet's more fucked up than I'll ever be

Right on! Honey's Dead was like a coming of age for me, I can't be objective about it.

Did Hope Sandoval break it off with her Reid bro then?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

tuneless dud

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It's got a tune, a tune you can whistle!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i think Hope is doing Colm O'Ciosoig, correct me if i'm wrong

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I like "Reverance", just not as much as all the other stuff. I just listened to it and changed my mind about it's dud-ness, and it was definitely the final cut.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Hope lives north of Berkeley (Hills/Kensington?). Anthony Kyle Monday pointed her out to me at the Smog show here. She's small!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Nordique,

Hope and Colm live up the hill from you in K-ton.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

and Hey! which (smog) show were you at? starry plough?

did you meet the hstencil? msp?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I met hstencil very briefly, g! I bought a cd of "Julius Caesar" of of him, and errr, distinguished myself by not saying much to him. He was kinda busy, though. nice guy!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

msp-I haven't had the pleasure.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...

Hey, whatever happened to that touted JAMC revival last year? It never seemed to get off the ground. Sigh.

I'm listening to Munki today. Time has been kind to it. At the time, I remember having an "OMG, WTF?" reaction to it because it was almost like the JAMC recording a satire of a JAMC album.

But with some time and distance, that's what's so great about it.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have to have another go at Munki. Munki love, you guys...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Are they ever going to release the video on DVD?

I mean, honestly. My tape has just disintergrated in ... certain sections. I need a nice, clear, DVD, frame by frame-playable version.

But anyway, yeah. Munki. I mean, maybe it sounds so great because I've heard so much crap lately. I wonder how charitable I would feel if I put on Blues From A Gun or something.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, and i'd like a second video collection preferably one containing the teenage lust video that we never got to see when it was out.

didn't like munki when i hear it recently (apart from Moe Tucker) but Honey's Dead was GREAT on another listen.

(i have the video in digital format (vcd or divx) if that's any use to you kate.)

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

and i'd like a copy of their Whistle Test(?) performance from '86 ish

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 11 October 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, if only I had a DVD writer etc, I'd do you a copy of my "Psychoanalysis" J&MC Compilation (runs up to Sidewalking iirc) which was top. I say so anyway.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Hrmmm. See I was disappointed with Honeys Dead the last time I dragged it out.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Me too, when I bought it. No actually, I'm thinking of Automatic. HD was a return to form for me.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Honeys Dead dated badly, to my ears. Good songs, but the production just screamed NINETEEN NINETY TWO!!! to me.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I've said this before, on this forum, in fact, can't remember on what thread, but I remember someone taking the piss out of me because I was taking the piss out of dance music for dating badly. Sigh.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The one I'm most likely to 'dig' out is Stoned and Dethroned, funnily enough. "Come On" is one of their best singles, it's just that it's got a particularly feeble title.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Stoned and Dethroned... hrmmm. That's the one that left the least impression on me. Even though I saw them quite a bit on that tour, my main memory was always "Ho-Ho-Hope, ugh." (Going onstage with the JAMC and complaining that there's *feedback* - what is she thinking?) I suppose there were some decent tracks on it, but some truly dire lyrics. "Jesus walks on the water, we walk on wetness, too" or something like that?

I mean, sure, they're not known for their lyrical prowess, but it's a long way from "I'll be your plastic toy" or even "I wanna die on a sunny day" for chrissake.

― Danger Whore (kate), Monday, 11 October 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Odd. I was actually blasting Psychocandy this weekend. When the wife and child returned home from an errand, my wife furrowed her lovely brow and said, "what on earth is this awful noise?". It's still got it!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Honey's Dead: http://www.robotfist.com/030205/030205_35.html says it better than i ever could. love that guitar sound in Catchfire. reminds me of Bo Diddly or one of those.

> Psychoanalysis" J&MC Compilation

sounds a lot like the video here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004R699/ref%3Dnosim/iq451-21/026-6561500-4698820

which is what i have. i just used my tv capture card to make a digital copy for backup purposes. and because i could.

amazon review for 'sound of speed':
"Reviewer: kat791 from england
not what i was expecting, but good nonetheless. the leonrad cohen cover 'the tower of song' is way cool, as is the cover of 'my girl'. cool acoustic guitar and the singer's got a nice voice. pretty good. similar to the beta band."

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does "Automatic" get so little respect? Yeah, I wish they hadn't used a drum machine, and they were clearly trying to sell out a bit with an album of straight-ahead rock songs. But what great songs they are! And the production hasn't dated any more than that on "Darklands".

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

> Psychoanalysis" J&MC Compilation

Something I made myself, out of vids and snippets off TV. If amazon are selling it, I shal go paranoid !

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Automatic too. However, the production has dated a little more than Darklands as it has fewer distinguishable electronics. However, Darklands is mostly drum machine too! (some people disagree with me on this point. unfortunately, they are wrong).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 11 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

you can get their whistle test performance on one of the bbc whistle test dvds. they do "in a hole" and it is amazingly mesmerising, though sadly not performed in front of bob harris i is sure would have had a coronary... reid, reid and hart are all in bike leathers whilst bobby gillespie sports fetching khaki...

― gerardo francisco, Monday, 11 October 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

Somebody talk to me right now and at length about how insanely great Honey's Dead is, and why, with particular reference to "Sundown," "Reverence," "Tumbledown," and "Frequency." Thanking you in advance, I remain.

― xero (xero), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Dan P to thread...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 September 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I finally found an mp3 of the version of "Some Candy Talking" from the NME 7" freebie - and I am finally happy.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Thursday, 21 September 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)

Please describe what the difference is between this and the "Psychocandy" version, someone!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

my sister's boyfriend's band supported jim reid last week. i was well impressed! they couldn't have cared less.

― pisces (piscesx), Friday, 22 September 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

Is Jim Reid gonna pay them back?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

>> The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)

>> Please describe what the difference is between this and the
>> "Psychocandy" version, someone!

I believe it has a longer introduction, like a fade-in or something.

Where's the bastard rarities box set?

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

I can't imagine that.

Yeah, where?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 22 September 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody talk to me right now and at length about how insanely great Honey's Dead is, and why, with particular reference to "Sundown," "Reverence," "Tumbledown," and "Frequency." Thanking you in advance, I remain.

*drums fingers, whistles idly*

― xero (xero), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)

Please describe what the difference is between this and the "Psychocandy" version, someone!

It's a completely different recording produced by Stephen Hague. Less abrasive than the album version, the sound is similar to "Some Candy Talking".

That whole soundtrack is amazing, btw.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Friday, 22 September 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

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I was going to get the cassette edition, but all places had it sold-out/unavailable three days ago.

I suspect it got cancelled. Unless any of youse got it ordered?

― Mark G, Monday, 25 March 2024 18:21 (two years ago)

New one has some cool bits (the advance tracks mostly) but also some really abysmal career nadirs (The Eagles and the Beatles? Wtf)

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 30 March 2024 13:11 (two years ago)

"don't come down" is exactly like the songs me and my friend strove to make in high school. i love it so much

― Comfortably numbnuts (Heez), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 12:50 (two years ago)

they sound mostly like late-90s Primal Scream to me now

― fetter, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 16:11 (two years ago)

Yeah, this is... not great, it's a pretty mixed bag. Which would be fine for a late career album like this, but the lows are really low.

New one has some cool bits (the advance tracks mostly) but also some really abysmal career nadirs (The Eagles and the Beatles? Wtf)

Fully agree, that one is embarrassing.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:14 (two years ago)

two months pass...

Some of the best shows I have ever seen (JAMC), on sale tomorrow:
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/18/pfursjamc-tour.jpg

― Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:32 (one year ago)

A Live Nation ticket pre-sale is set for Thursday, June 20th at 10:00 a.m. local time (use code CHORD) via Ticketmaster, with a public on-sale following on Friday, June 21st at 10:00 a.m. local time.

― Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:51 (one year ago)

Got tickets for the YouTube theater, never been there before.

― RIP Say Hey Kid (Bee OK), Thursday, 20 June 2024 18:52 (one year ago)

do they play unskippable ads during shows there?

― StanM, Thursday, 20 June 2024 20:12 (one year ago)

yes, Jesus and Mary Chain have to work Pepsi and Coke into the lyrics of at least one song

― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 20 June 2024 20:41 (one year ago)

"New one has some cool bits (the advance tracks mostly)"

I've only heard advance tracks. Will give the album a swerve.

― djh, Thursday, 20 June 2024 21:18 (one year ago)

two months pass...

Found myself strangely irritated by the Guardian headline "If the Gallaghers were Scottish" above a review of the book.

― djh, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 07:23 (one year ago)

ugh, yes, that's terrible

― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 4 September 2024 12:06 (one year ago)

"Pop Seeds"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POoAKARXSbE

― Mark G, Thursday, 5 September 2024 13:30 (one year ago)

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