Kyuss/QOTSA/Unida/Hermano/Che/Desert Sessions/Brant Bjork (and any other Kyuss spin-off + Stoner Rock in general) Search & Destroy , Classic Or Dud?

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Theres a new Oneida ep online. Theyre the ultimate stoner band for me.
Then it has to be The Heads. They have their 'live' album coming out officially now.
Wino also has a new band.

Frank H, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Favorite stoner bands:
Mudhoney
Screaming Trees
Soundgarden
Skin Yard
Crystallized Movements
St. Vitus
Always August
Sir Lord Baltimore
Budgie
Dust
Bent Wind
Human Instinct
Billy TK's Powerhouse
Stone Harbour

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't know if Screaming Trees are stoner but they were a great band. Saw them with Josh Homme in the line up.
Why no mentions of Masters Of Reality in this thread?

Kevin The Man In Black, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The Hidden Hand is the first Wino-affiliated product/band to disappoint me even a little. I really miss Spirit Caravan.

Listening to Electric Wizard's Dopethrone as I type this.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if the Screaming Trees were stoner either, Kevin. I'm just trying to problematize the idiotic term.

Yeah, I saw 'em with Josh too. The Dust tour I think it was?

The Masters of Reality were indeed a fantastic band. They probably haven't been mentioned because all the "stoner" hepcats were too young when they were around.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn, this reminded me I haven't listened to Sir Lord Baltimore for too long!

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, was late-period Black Flag (when they got all slow an metal-ly) the secret influence of all stoner rock bands? I think yes!

Is Soundgarden stoner rock, because they would be one of the best if they qualify...

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Masters Of Reality. I believe the later albums havent been released in America. The later Masters Of Reality albums are great. Maybe not quite as good as the 1st album. I probably prefer 'Welcome To The Western Lodge' over 'Deep In the Hole'.
Theres a live album from 2001 when Josh & Nick from Qotsa played with Chris Goss. I recommend that.

Roy Malone, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

..oh, I just remembered, Masters of Reality were mentioned by somebody on the earlier thread I linked to above.

Once again, nobody has mentioned High on Fire on this thread though. So there they are. Mentioned.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"Buzz Factory" by Screaming Trees definitely fits this mold, it is a really good record. That one quite a few songs with big fuzzy Ron Asheton wah stylings all over them. Check out the tune 'Black Sun Morning' for a proper taste.

earlnash, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

High On Fire are superb. AMG called Matt Pike the most metal man alive.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=MISS70309091416&sql=Au0ja7ip3g74r

Roy Malone, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Roy, for once I agree with AMG!!

Matt, I smoked a lot of pot to Ultramega OK and especially Louder Than Love in high school, so I would say YES Soundgarden qualified. Hell, they got vilified at the time for being lame 70s "revivalists", so at the very least they ought to be able to claim some kind of first-mover status (but not "Prime Mover" - that would be Zodiac Mindwarp and they sucked).

I don't know, I like Kyuss but I was never overly impressed with them. They had a great rhythmic push, I like their records, I'm just as likely to play them these days as any other heavy band .. and sure that's enough to make quite valuable in my book .. but they didn't seem to be doing too much that wasn't already being done by some of the best Sub Pop type bands from years earlier, or by their contemporaries, Monster Magnet (whose best records I like much better - much more imaginative). But for whatever reason, Kyuss seems to be the band that many love and continue to cite.

Fu Manchu seemed to be the worst of them all though. There's just nothing memorable or distinctive there at all. I'm not sure what I'm missing. I'm open to the possibility that I just haven't heard their best stuff.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Soundgarden were a great band. Definitely do count imo. Loud Love is a stoner anthem and Badmotorfinger is a terrific doomy and heavy album.
Superunknown is also quite psychedelic.
Most of the grunge era bands would be called stoner nowadays if they were just starting. Melvins, Screaming Trees, Soundgarden,Skinyard,Tad.
The rest like Mudhoney would be called garage rock.
Monster magnet were always a great band. Any truth that theyve split up?
Best Masters Of Reality is The Viper Room live cd.

Marco G, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

How about a subthread of 100 Best Stoner Rock Songs?

1) Kyuss - 50 Million Year Trip
2) Kyuss - Supa Scoopa & Mighty Scoop

Raymondo, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Masters of Reality are indeed great and Goss's association with Kyuss -- you'll note he produced the first two albums and perhaps some more -- means he's the secret crypto-influence on That Whole Scene. I hear a lot of Josh Homme's similar Cream-fixation as descending partly through Goss's influence (and on one of the Desert Sessions releases that "Monster in Your Parasol" song sung by Goss is a killer).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

3) Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
4) Electric Wizard - Funeralopolis
5) Qotsa - Mexicola.
6) Supafuzz - I Am The King
7) Monster Magnet - Nod Scene

The Electric Wizard, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

8) Monster Magnet - Cyclops Revolution
9) Saint Vitus - Clear Windowpane ("I have things living in my hair")
10) Tad - Wood Goblins
11) Soundgarden - Slaves and Bulldozers
12) Black Sabbath - Snowblind

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

13) Qotsa - Regular John
14) Bardo Pond - Tommy Gun ANgel
15) Oneida - C'mon Everybody Lets Rock
16) Mudhoney - In And Out Of Grace
17) Nebula - Freedom
18) Masters Of Reality - The Blue Garden

The New Yorker, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

19) Acid Mothers Temple - La Novia
21) Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
22) Unida - Black Woman

Metropolis, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Check out Slo Burn. A great John Garcia project.
Honorable mentions to :
Solarized
Acrimony
Colour Haze
Sons Of Otis
7 Zuma 7
Dozer
Sheavy
Atomic Bitchwax
Trouble
Sleep
St Vitus
Obsessed
Cathedral
Eyehategod
Fudge Tunnel - Hate Songs In E Minor
And all the Kyuss related bands are very good.

Tony The Rock, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

23) Monster Magnet - Negasonic Teenage Warhead
24) Sleep - Dopesmoker

Rene, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Articles on the desert scene that may be of interest:

MARIO 'BOOMER' LALLI and FATSO JETSON/YAWNING MAN/SORT OF QUARTET:
http://www.jaybabcock.com/fatsolong.html

"The Dangerous Lives of Desert Boys": QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE cover feature includes interviewage with Josh Homme, Nick Oliveri, Brant Bjork, John Garcia, Chris Goss, Mario "Boomer" Lalli and Alfredo Hernandez.
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/41/features-babcock.php

Jay Babcock (Jay Babcock), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone heard the Gallery Of Mites album? http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80309091713&sql=Brzg9kextsq7q

25) Kyuss - Gardenia
26) Qotsa - Avon

Raymondo, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

27) Unida - Human Tornado

Philthy, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

28) Obsessed - Skybone
29) Blue Cheer - Doctor Please

I'd love to see Chuck Eddy's and Frank Kogan's top 100 'Stoner' Songs.

Hank Von Satin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

30) Comets On Fire - ESP
31) Kyuss - Thumb
32) Kyuss - Spaceship landing
33) Sunburned Hand Of The man - Sense Of The Senseless
34) My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow

Paddy, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

35) Electric Wizard - Wizard In Black

Best album Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley or Electric Wizard - Dopethrone

Hank Von Satin, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

36) Groundhogs - Eccentric Man
And the whole of the 'Split' album.

Alex From Manchester, Tuesday, 9 September 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

37) Anything by Hawkwind

Ryan Bluenose, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)

38) Orange Goblin- time travelling blues

chad (chad), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

39) Seeds - Pushin Too Hard

Brian Bailey, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

40) Nebula - To The Center

Frederik, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Loop. Plenty of gravity there. Go with Wolf Flow or A Gilded Eternity or Fade Out. You also can't go wrong with early Bardo Pond, Amanita or Lapsed will probably appeal to folks drawn to this thread.

I thought the Nebula/Lowrider split CD totally smoked To The Center. "Fall of Icarus" from that disc is just fuckin' stellar.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone here like Old Man Gloom?

Craig Diamond, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Shame Mans Ruin went bust. Are any of those albums being re-released elsewhere?
41) Hermano - The Bottle
42) Desert Sessions - Nova (original version of Avon)

Sarah Brownlie, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

43) Black Sabbath - Under the Sun
44) Loop - Be Here Now
45) Orange Goblin - King of the Hornets
46) Earth - Introduction (from Pentastar)
47) Spirit Caravan - Cosmic Artifact
48) Funkadelic - Alice in my Fantasies
49) Electric Wizard - Return Trip
50) Kyuss - Demon Cleaner
51) Down - Eyes of the South
52) Mudhoney - Mudride
53) Soundgarden - Mailman

M Carty (mj_c), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 08:13 (twenty-two years ago)

54. Sunn0))) - FWTBT...
55. Obsessed - Concrete Cancer
56. Khanate - Pieces of Quiet
57. Winnebago Deal - Manhunt
58. Isis - The Sea
59. Fu Manchu - Asphalt Rising
60. The Heads - Dissonaut
61. Burning Witch - Country Doctor
62. Goatsnake - Long Gone

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)

63. Funkadelic - Free Your Ass And Your Mind Will Follow
64. Black Sabbath - Supernaut

Gerry Taggart, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

65. Motorhead - Metropolis

M Carty (mj_c), Thursday, 11 September 2003 07:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Does the new Spiritualized count?

Sunny, Thursday, 11 September 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

66) Bob Dylan - Stoned

ramirez, Friday, 12 September 2003 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

67) Acrimony - Hymns to the Stone
68) Kyuss - Molten Universe
69) Wellwater Conspiracy - Compellor
70) QOTSA - You Can't Quit Me Baby
71) Soundgarden - Jesus Christ Pose

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Friday, 12 September 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

72) Screaming Trees - Sweet Oblivion

RP McMurphy, Friday, 12 September 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

73) Monster Magnet - Tab
74) Orange Goblin - Blue Snow

the orange gobline, Saturday, 13 September 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Early Monster Magnet blow all these bands away.
Qotsa aren't stoner rock.

Asif Ramone, Sunday, 14 September 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

75- Kyuss - Welcome To Sky Valley

Dungeon Master, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i agree Colin Geoghan, great to see dopesmoker finally as it was intended, great band.

kerry getz (kgetz), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
Whats the difference between Dopesmoker and Jerusalem?

Rob C, Thursday, 18 December 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

you can buy _dopesmoker_ and tell people who own _jerusalem_ it sounds better to make them feel bad.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 18 December 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha! yeah, I think I'm just gonna hang on to my copy of Jerusalem because it has a cooler title. Do people really care if a record like this "sounds better"?

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 18 December 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

agree w roger and AG. it looks like the problem was that the kyuss lives! guys tried to make a legal grab for full ownership of the kyuss name. don't think that homme was at all out of line in objecting to that.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

Fair enough.

lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Friday, 16 March 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

What should you listen to if you want to listen to Kyuss but hate the vocals?

"Funny" responses are fine but you can answer normally if you like too

We Need To Talk About Trayvon (admrl), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

Lowrider, early Acrimony, Los Natas, and Mammoth Volume, Dozer, Truckfighters, Colour Haze, Sungrazer, The Machine.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.thesleepingshaman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Vista-Chino-Peace-Artwork.jpg

VISTA CHINO, the group comprised of two founding members of the legendary rock band KYUSS — Brant Bjork and John Garcia — and guitarist Bruno Fevery, will release its debut album, “Peace“, in the early fall via Napalm Records. The cover artwork for the CD was created by the renowned California art collective The Date Farmers.

Commented Bjork: “The Date Farmers are native to the desert where we are from. It is an honor to work together with such prolific artists!”

“Dargona, Dragona“, the first song from VISTA CHINO‘s highly anticipated first full-length album, is available for streaming at THIS LOCATION.

VISTA CHINO‘s first North American performance will take place at this year’s Orion Music + More festival — curated by METALLICA — in Detroit, Michhigan. VISTA CHINO will play on Sunday, June 9 on the “Frantic Stage.” A full North American tour will be announced shortly.

The final live appearances of KYUSS LIVES! — featuring the same lineup as VISTA CHINO — took place in early 2013 as part of Australia’s Soundwave Festival.

KYUSS LIVES! decided to change its name after a lawsuit launched by former KYUSS members Josh Homme and Scott Reeder prevented KYUSS LIVES! from recording and releasing any new material.

Commented Garcia: “KYUSS LIVES! is now VISTA CHINO!…it feels great just to write that….and to say it out loud, feels even better. Now that our relationship with Napalm Records is official; it’s time to forget about the past year, move forward, and execute our original plan, which was to make kick-ass music and tour the world!”

Speaking to Music Feeds, Brant was asked whether there was a slight sense of relief that the legal dispute over the KYUSS name is over. “Absolutely,” he replied. “There’s always relief when conflict is resolved and people can just let go and move forward. That’s where we’re at and we feel great. It’s always unfortunate to experience differences with specific people, but we feel great as a band. We’re really, really excited to move forward into the future and focus on what it is that we do, which is play music.”

Regarding whether the change of band’s name to VISTA CHINO would have happened had it not been for the lawsuit, Brant said: “That’s a good question. The answer to that question is: I don’t know. Possibly. We didn’t really think about it. We were really just looking at what was in front of us and making our decisions based on what our present situation was. But now we just came to a point where we felt that changing the name was appropriate and was the fastest way for us to get back to playing music.”

Brant Bjork interview:

Vista Chino was actually going to be the name of our new record when we were Kyuss Lives, and so when it was time to change the name of the band, we just used that as the name of the band. Vista Chino is just the name of a street out in the desert where we’re from. We just identify as a landmark where we’re from.

http://www.metalinsider.net/interviews/vista-chinos-brant-bjork-on-stoner-rock-bands-new-album-kyuss-legacy

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 13 June 2013 17:03 (twelve years ago)

Goatess!

http://www.thesleepingshaman.com/reviews/album-reviews/g/goatess-st-cd-lp-dd-2013/

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 10:48 (twelve years ago)

Also, more alone the lines of early QOTSA, Gozu.

http://gozu.bandcamp.com/
http://smallstone.bandcamp.com/album/the-fury-of-a-patient-man

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 5 July 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)

My Goatess review: http://fastnbulbous.com/goatess-goatess/

I'll be buying tickets to Vista Chino show for Sep 19 on Saturday. They're playing a block from my home!

Vista Chino the band formed by John Garcia and Brant Bjork (formerly of Kyuss) are gearing up for the release 'Peace'. The album will be released September 3rd in North America via Napalm Records. Following their much heralded debut North American performance as Vista Chino at the Orion Music + More Festival, the band have confirmed a North American headline tour in support of 'Peace'. Support on the tour will come from the Portland Oregon rock outfit known as Black Pussy. The tour kicks off September 6th in Calgary, Alberta and runs through September 28th in Columbus, Ohio.

Drummer Brant Bjork cannot wait to showcase the new music for the fans: "Vista Chino is super excited to bring the fresh VC rock to the American fans. We'll be rocking songs from our new Vista Chino record 'Peace' along with some Kyuss classics and the legendary Mike Dean from COC will be bringing the electric bass... so, be there or be square."

Black Pussy dedicated last year's album, On Blonde to Brant Bjork. - http://blackpussy.bandcamp.com/album/on-blonde

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 14:36 (twelve years ago)

QOTSA tix for Metro show on 8/1 sold out in less than 30 seconds. Strange, as it should take at least 2 minutes to complete a check-out. I guess the days of being able to see that band in a smallish venue are over. Vista Chino should make up for it though!

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 12 July 2013 18:46 (twelve years ago)

Not surprised it sold out fast, that albums been getting lots of buzz, deservedly so. But 30 seconds for Metro seems crazy. But hell, it doesn't get any better at huge shows either. Pearl Jam at Wrigley, for example, was gone in less than 10 seconds.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 July 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

Saw the show last night. hey sounded awesome, though it was so loud my ears were ringing despite wearing earplugs! Garcia shed some extra pounds while workin hard with the band the past couple years and they were tight! Mike Dean (of Corrosion of Conformity) was awesome on the bass (often playing perfectly with his eyes closed), Brant Bjork looked like he jumped right out of a Cheech & Chong movie with his 'stache and bandana, and Bruno is indeed a badass guitar player. They played a perfect mix of new songs and Kyuss songs. Catch this tour!

Here's what Scott Reeder is up to:

FU MANCHU, Ex-KYUSS Members Join Forces In SUN & SAIL CLUB
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/fun-manchu-ex-kyuss-members-join-forces-in-sun-sail-club/#xYkkkVVhCed61CoV.99

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 20 September 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)

seven years pass...

So I just learned last night that Brant Bjork and Nick Oliveri have a new power trio with drummer Ryan Gut (who has played with Bjork's solo band) named, of course, Stöner. So far they just have an entry in the Live in the Mojave Desert series (haven't heard it, released 6/11), but they apparently have a debut from Heavy Psych Sounds coming later this year too. Cautiously optimistic, I've dug some of Bjork's solo stuff and the Vista Chino thing.

https://giantrockrecords.bandcamp.com/album/st-ner-live-in-the-mojave-desert-volume-4-3

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 June 2021 20:05 (five years ago)

three years pass...

Said Stoner trio mentioned in my last post from three years ago just released a new live album, Hittin' the Bitchin' Switch and it's a pretty good dose of old-school desert fuzz stoner rock if that's your thing. They even take on a couple of Kyuss tunes ("Gardenia" and "Green Machine").

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 October 2024 17:10 (one year ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjNuYbCx7uA

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 21 January 2026 23:01 (four months ago)


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