UGK - Underground Kingz

great album although ive not been able to get through it all yet. dizzees verse is shit though. bun b is still good but pimp c just sounds like hes out to win it. production i wish was a bit richer/thicker like old ugk stuff but its still really good. too long, although i dont really mind.

i love this album

Yeah the whole thing flows really well, all the redundancies and formulas kinda work in its favor. Only song I really dislike is "Like That," I can even tolerate the Dizzee Rascal verse if I just pretend it's some Jamaican dude.

like that is amazing! or do you mean you just hate the original?

The Dizzee/UGK song on the Dizzee album is way better.

2nd disc> 1st disc, right?

this is also nearly the perfect late afternoon album.

1st disc is def > 2nd

Quit Hatin' The South is one of the best few songs they've ever done, up there with One Day and Front, Back & Side to Side. there are some duds (I can't stand Like That, and I get nothing out of the much touted Int'l Players Anthem), but there are a bunch of tracks I really like on here. easily my hiphop record of the year, if not the decade thus far, although it still requires quite a bit of digestion.

it's too bad that Pimp C didn't produce more of the tracks himself, those are most of the standouts. and lastly, MP3s really don't do justice to the depth of the production on this record, the CDs are well worth picking up (I got it for $7.99 from Amazon, but I think that deal's done).

crosspost: yeah, the first disc is far, far better.

i was really excited to hear the T.I. collabo, but it would have been jarringly out of place anywhere on this record. funny to compliment self-editing on a 26 track album (especially when the biggest rap star in the game is involved).

what y'all think of "candy." one of my favorites on the second half, maybe even the album. but then again, i'm pretty bun b>pimp c, and it seems i'm alone on that one 'round here.

The "Like That" remix is just OK but the original is almost unlistenable. And I'm usually alright with Lil Jon.

i'm pretty bun b>pimp c, and it seems i'm alone on that one 'round here.
the T.I. collab is on the record as a bonus track, which is where it belongs. great song tho, noz was hating for some reason

i think the 'like that' remix is incredible, one of the best tracks

i dont know why i quoted that bun b > pimp c thing, ignore that

i like the T.I. track as a stand alone, but as a bonus track it's almost like they realized it didn't fit so they just tacked it onto the end. where it also doesn't fit, imo. but i'm sure it was out of respect for T.I.

in any event, i don't think we need to quibble about if things should have been bonus tracks or not.

my fave song on the album is either "int'l players anthem" or "trill niggaz don't die"

it doesnt fit at the end??? what does that mean. do you not have a stop button?

lol. i guess i should have said it seems lazy to me. like "here's this track it doesn't fit in the album so we just threw it back here." i have much bigger problems with bonus tracks in general than i do with this song, which is a fine and good song. i like "front back" much more for whatever that's worth.

that beat for the kool g rap/kane collabo is pretty shoddy isnt it? a poor rehash of hip hop drunkies. kane and g rap dont really sound at the top of their game either. one to delete methinks.

this is probably the best rap album this year though, and maybe even of the past couple of years. which doesnt say much about modern rappers when the only guys still putting out great albums are the older ones.

I got this for $9.99 at Best Buy. Worth every penny.

Wait, Lil Jon produced the original version of "Like That," the version I prefer?

My world is shaken. I need to sit down for a moment.

I think I've switched my loyalty between mixes of "Like That." Probably the ideal solution is a beat-switch version with the Lil' Jon Beat while Bun is rapping, and the remix while Pimp is rhyming and on the chorus.

I must be getting old as I don't get all the worship this getting. Some of it I like, but too often it's just lazy rhymes about "bitches" over southern soul beats utilized in a cliched manner.

"this is getting"

The original "Like That" is a better song, but "Like That (Remix)" fits in the flow of the albums better, which is why it's on disc one.

I am listening to disc two very softly on my computer speakers in my cube right now. This is far from ideal, but I somehow think that if I played it at the volume I wanted (and it deserves) I would be fired with cause before the end of track 3.

Steve: Listen to how the songs are constructed, and to their internal logic; there's a lot to these guys as composers and sound technicians, and their relationship to thug life is by no means without nuance. But yeah if you can't get past the word "bitch" then you had better give up.

southern soul beats are so great

Absolutely. Lyrical content issues aside (and I have a few, but not that many, really) this is one of the best sounding rap albums I've heard in ages.

ok i never realized how awesome the strings and piano are on "like that" rmx. i like that one the best.

my candy

this album is so good i kinda never listen to it

"this album is so good i kinda never listen to it"

ditto. one time was enough. plus, i prefer putting on one of their previous 4 albums.

I made a one-disc edit that I play pretty frequently, I can't do the whole deuce disc thing.

the problem with a one disc edit is 1. i dont listen to 'discs' and 2. you eliminate great tracks

i haven't listened to this in awhile, but more because i played it so much when it dropped that i needed some time to myself. still a great album and im sure i'll pull it out again soon.

"you eliminate great tracks"

if theyre eliminated, theyre not that great. hence, the one disc (or short ipod playlist) edit.

i don''t do this explicitly but it just ends up that most of the time i listen to the first disc, then i have to go do something or w/e and then i come back and listen to the second disc, almost like two separate albums. i tried editing it down to one disc but i kept going back to the songs i hadn't chosen cuz i thought i might have been missing something w/ those.

"you eliminate great tracks"

if theyre eliminated, theyre not that great. hence, the one disc (or short ipod playlist) edit.

-- titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, November 8, 2007 2:49 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i think deej is saying that to edit it down to "one disc" you are begrudgingly forced to leave off great tracks.

I'd really like to edit "Two Kinds of Bitches" so there are no britishes on it. Well, at least only one. But they guy who just rambles without rapping really needs to be on the cutting room floor.

Dizzee?

Lemme check - I think he's called "Pimpin' Ken."

Yeah...from ohhla

Chorus

LOOOONG Outro of Pimpin' Ken ad libs

Pimpin' Ken /= Britishes

Wherever he's from, he ruins one of the best beats on the album with his pointless horseshit.

i kinda love NUHD'IM TALKINBAHT though

strokes and folks, I guess

well i mean the rest is obviously horseshit, but he repeated NUHD'IM TALKINBAHT enough times that i was laughing by the end

I can even tolerate the Dizzee Rascal verse if I just pretend it's some Jamaican dude.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:37 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

Pimpin Ken is like one of the 20 best things about this album

i have a skip button so i'm not going to bitch about pimipin ken, but that shit is totally insufferable.

I agree with that, more or less. This isn't one of my top ten of the year, as there are other things that are just simply more interesting, but it's a remarkably solid album, even in its length.

I am only starting with my top ten list, but I'm starting with this album. It won't be #1, but it's a lot better than any of the weak criticisms thrown up against it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=66mjGdDDr94 UGK ft. Big Daddy Kane & Kool G Rap- Next Up

yeah titchy is totally off base here. i'm not saying that, like, this is the group's masterpiece, but this is easily on par with any other record they've ever done, plus its twice as many songs as any record they've ever done.

I (genuinely) like the whole "it's a double album so you get more good stuff" angle - it does seem odd that people resent being provided with more good stuff when they're probably gonna rip this to their computer or iPod even if they do buy it on CD.

But my actual favourite thing about this album is the basslines - so warm and resonant and booming somewhere around yr lower intestines.

i enjoy this more now ive got my criticisms of it out the way. but anyway, pimp c absolutely kills this record. bun b is good but he doesnt sound as lethal as pimp on this. sort of like how andre was obviously a few steps ahead of big boi on aquemini (or just not as in sync with each other as they were before).

i like the T.I. track as a stand alone, but as a bonus track it's almost like they realized it didn't fit so they just tacked it onto the end. where it also doesn't fit, imo. but i'm sure it was out of respect for T.I.

i'm sure that it was out of respect for the fact that the beat is unstoppable! i agree that it doesn't really fit with the rest of the tracks (though it probably could have been paired with 'grind hard'). love the dancehall-ish feel.

http://mixunit.com/ProductImages/clothing3/pimpC_fairreh.jpg

1 Intro
2 Still On The Grind featuring Raheem DeVaughn
3 Everybody Wanna Ball
4 Feelin'You
5 The Pimp & The Bun Featuring Ron Isley
6 She Luv
7 It
8 7th Street
9 Interlude
10 Swishas & Erb featuring Sleepy Brown
11 Purse Come First featuring Big Gipp
12 Harry Asshole featuring Lil Boosie and Webbie
13 Used To Be featuring B. Legit, E40 and 8Ball &MJG
14 Steel Your Mind featuring Too Short
15 Texas Ave Interlude
16 Hard As Hell featuring Akon
17 Da Game Been Good To Me
18 Outro

very "intrigued" by the boosie/webbie joint

out mar 31

13 Used To Be featuring B. Legit, E40 and 8Ball &MJG

this will be awesome

just cameras and screens

often it's just lazy rhymes about "bitches" over southern soul beats utilized in a cliched manner.

obviously the rhymes have to be lazy because you're supposed to be letting the 'bitches' do the work

it's called ~~art~~, form follows content!