Bobby Brown isn't to R&B what Brooks was to country, I don't think.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
bobby hasn't sold 128 million
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Garth is a deity in his genre in a way that Bobby Brown is ... not. A CD of new Garth songs would do quite well among people who still buy CDs, i.e. my aunt in Missouri.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Garth vs. Bobby, how did we get here agaain?
― alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
forget it alpine static, it's new jersey
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
not sure you understand how few albums sell a million copies anymore. so far this year it's just that Lionel Richie album.
― some dude, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:19 PM Bookmark
Yeah, but country album sales are generally stronger than other genres, right? All three of Taylor Swift's records are 5x platinum or more. Lady Antebellum went 3x with their big record, single platinum with their other two. The goddamned Band Perry went platinum... Those aren't 1990s numbers - No Fences came close to double-diamond! - but a well-marketed comeback could still clean up.
Bobby Brown comparison is baffling. Garth Brooks is the best-selling albums artist of his era, in any genre, by a long shot. If John Lennon and George Harrison came back from the dead and reunited the Beatles, and their album came out the same day as Garth's, I still wouldn't know who to put my money on to win it.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
sorry guys i thought it was clear i was being facetious/purposefully diminishing w/ my bobby brown comparison
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
hmmmmmm, okay then
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
Garth's Vegas show is apparently just him in sweats with a guitar and atool. I'd like to see that.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
(stool)
I'd see him with just a guitar and stool. Proper pants would be a nice touch, though.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
a guitar and a tool
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Magic Garth
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
He'd like to see that.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
haaaaaaay y'all what's going on?
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― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
i just want to watch garth brooks sit on a stool naked
― max, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for killing the thread
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
traveled down the road and back againyour heart is trueyou're a friend and a confidant
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 8, 2012 12:49 PM Bookmark
The downward slide in the fans' estimation begins. Soon, it will be ILM's own New Jersey.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
Taylor Swift's Speak Now might end up being her New Jersey. I can't imagine any of the singles really being played 5 years down the line. "Mine" is a Fearless retread, might as well play "You Belong With Me" or "Love Story". "Back To December" is great, but its not quite country, or peppy enough for Pop radio. "Mean" might keep getting play on country radio, but I think as a song it is too tied to the Taylor Swift career narrative, and so when her star fades a little bit it won't have the same resonance. "The Story of Us" is too rock, and unless there is a major style change for her, it won't be seen as Taylor-enough to get played. "Sparks Fly" is another Fearless retread, and "Ours"... its not even on the proper album so maybe it shouldn't count at all.
― brontosaur, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWPfK_3mbbk
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
that's double platnum
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
No way is that a New Jersey, people lost interest in the entire project almost immediately. DOA.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
i just like that song. he did get millions of people to buy an album that they were confused by and quickly forgot and a lot of promotion went into it. snl, vh1, etc. i think things started to fade a bit - by garth terms - after fresh horses.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
i just like that song. he did get millions of people to buy an album that they were confused by and quickly forgot and a lot of promotion went into it.
Marketing feels like it is as important to determining NJ-status as sales is.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
when Bowie received some industry award from presenter Garth Brooks in '99 he thanked the committee "and, of course, Chris Gaines." The audience was like OOOOOOOH
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
Elvis Costello has several New Jerseys, but I suspect that Mighty Like A Rose is the winner/loser.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
MLAR was a huge event album?
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
Spike?
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
Elvis C is too mcuh a cultist to qualify but I'll be challopsy and say Armed Forces.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
he made good even great albums but it was the first time his anger felt like schtick.
yeah with culty critic's picks you get into "here's where they started sucking and we didn't notice immediately" and "here's where we should have realized they'd never expand their audience" etc etc that rely far too much on taste
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Armed Forces does kinda fit, because at that point he was starting to look like a major star, but his momentum was slowing even before the Ray Charcles debacle
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
i really don't get the sense that people were like "well it's over for EC" when Get Happy! out
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
i mean we're dealing with serious serious hindsight here
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
AF was his commercial peak.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
Does Spiceworld count?
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, do people really think Armed Forces feels a bit hollow or signals a decline? I'm not a big EC stan at all, but I think it's a great record, and stands up. xpost
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Spiceworld counts, I think.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
It's hard for me to hear AF these days without trying to forget the literally dozens of acerbic roots-rock records he's released since I started typing this sentence.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
that's super, but there's no reason that's a New Jersey any more than Get Happy! which charted equally but sold less, and had about equally high charting singles in the UK that are slightly less well known afaik
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think Costello really works for this
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah you gotta have a slippery when wet to hope to have a new jersey
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
seems clear that part of the thread's purpose is to deny the premise -- it seems clearly NOT to be the case that every huge artist has a New Jersey
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
more like people like to ignore the word "huge" or allow for liberal interpretations of it
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
along those lines, I think you can make an argument for Actual Sounds + Voices as Meat Beat Manifesto's New Jersey
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
also 13 Above The Night for My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Spiceworld otoh is an excellent choice
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
what about For Those About To Rock We Salute You? AC/DC's first #1 album.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's not bad
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link