wouldnt wish be a better examp
NO SHUT UP I HATE YOU
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:27 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha your anger just confirms that Wish is a New Jersey.
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:28 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lolll
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
You're right, I think REM and NIN fit that pattern though.
― skip, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
it's actually a real accomplishment to get a New Jersey - a lot of bands miss their window and go straight to PROOF THINGS DONE CHANGED
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
WMS still went gold in the US
Bloodflowers then went gold in... Switzerland
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Phil Collins "...But Seriously"
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
I am totally losing this argument aren't I
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Frankie Goes To Hollywood - Liverpool. Or maybe even Welcome To The Pleasuredome, I remember the expectation around the album was huge but it seemed like a Grand Statement that fell pretty flat.
This is a UK thing btw.
― don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ this
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
hmm maybe downward spiral is the new jersey? but it's probably too good.
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
NIN wasn't really huge until that album, though
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like some people aren't getting that a New Jersey isn't a flop, and isn't an album that still makes Best of the Decade lists
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
I guess I could say Songs of Faith and Devotion? DM sales are kind of weirdly constant tho, esp in German-speaking countries
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
I think this theory explains many of the things I love about Born This Way. Being massively, zeitgeisty huge and still violently underrated and undervalued is tons of fun.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
Right, no one will admit to either liking it, even though they own or owned it.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
either
Fairweather Motherfucking Johnson
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
Pearl Jam - Vs.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Afterburner is perfect - it was still a HIT ALBUM, but nobody loves it like Eliminator and by the next one the moment clearly passed. A key symptom of a New Jersey is to look at at the singles and see if you're surprised how high they charted.
Like say Cyndi Lauper's True Colors featuring the #3 hit "Change Of Heart"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Stankonia
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
A "New Jersey" is a big album (sometimes huge) that is basically only big becuz it is cresting on the interia of the previous record.
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
If he didn't die..."In Utero" would have been Nirvana's "New Jersey"
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
excuse me, waiter, i specifically asked for no challops
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
Manic Street Preachers - This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, but still, all my friends were kind of over Nirvana before he died! It's a great record though
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― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
Floyd's The Final Cut went platinum in the USA & was #1 in the UK, I'll put it forward
― Euler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
Dancing on the Ceiling - Lionel Richie
― mr.raffles, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 1
yes
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
I'd think there was a Sting album that fit this criteria, but Ten Summoner's Tales is really one of his best and Mercury Falling was a commercial disaster.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Totally "The Final Cut", do people even know that record exists anymore?
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
A friend with whom I'm IM'ing said "Tunnel of Love" but that's not quite right
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
PE's Greatest Misses felt this way to me at the time, but I don't know what its sales were like.
― Euler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Songs of Faith & Devotion is a good one. Not Rattle & Hum though - nobody would ever be under the impression that Joshua Tree had been supplanted. (that's the point, right? It looks for a while like the blockbuster's been beaten, then it ... just hasn't)
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
I thought of "Tunnel of Love" but yeah it's not quite right, a "New Jersey" isn't a flop exactly, more like no one realizes it is a flop until they've owned it for six months
― chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Cheap Trick- Dream Police
You got killer single and George Martin- should have been their victory lap and it was popular but they had kinda lost something and the slide to the state fair starts.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh I think R&H is a perfect example!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
I gotta say, this is basically the perfect ILM thread
― frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Tribe Called Quest - Beats, Rhymes, and Life
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
wtf are you talking about, that is not a surprise at all
surprising is seeing that "I Drove All Night" hit #6
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
omg this is super OTM
Blur - The Great Escape
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
True Colors also, erm, had a #1 single that unfortunately hasn't disappeared
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
We have different working definitions of "huge event album."
― Eric H., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
sorry I was not under the impression people still liked True Colors
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
cyndi's third album didn't even go gold so if True Colors is just too damn good an album to be a New Jersey she doesn't have one
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
Tusk was one of these, and then it got released
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
R.E.M. - Monster
Insanity itself -- it's obviously AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE, which seemed huge at the time, but let's face it, in retrospect, R.E.M. as a hitmaker is "the band who recorded Losing My Religion" not "the band who recorded Drive." It sold a lot of copies at the time, though.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
people still rave about Automatic. I love Monster but the "#1 sold-back cd ever" thing is hard to ignore. Wish would qualify if Cure fans had abandoned it but I don't think that's the case.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
eephus otm, and I'd never realised before
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
hit-wise you could talk about "the band who recorded Everybody Hurts"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Wish would qualify if Cure fans had abandoned it but I don't think that's the case.
This is the main reason why I said Wild Mood Swings
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link