50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

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Oh, duh, of course Nathan Fake's "Undoing The Laces" in a Fleetwood Mac reference; will have to play it next to Justus Köhncke's "Albatross" one day.

Enjoying the Crystal Ark's cover of Tusk, though I still wish there was some sort of Tom Moulton-esque 12" version of the original floating around.

etc, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, duh, /of course/ Nathan Fake's "Undoing The Laces" in a Fleetwood Mac reference

You mean the same Nathan Fake who titled an album Drowning In a Sea of Love?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:26 (thirteen years ago)

They really need to get around to making a Classic Albums documentary of this. I know that Rumours has one already, and that there was a great documentary on Tusk at the time of its release, but I'd really like to hear the real in-depth hindsight perspective on Tusk from the members themselves. The 'Don't Stop' and 'Rock Family Trees' shows on Fleetwood Mac's whole career were both great, but they didn't really go as far into THIS era of the band as I feel they could have done. I still think there's a hell of a lot for them to talk about in regards to this album, and I still think there's shitloads of archive footage of the recording process that we haven't seen. Wouldn't it be great to see Ken Caillat in the studio, isolating the harmonies on 'Walk A Thin Line' or 'That's All For Everyone'?

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

from the RS cover story:

In a private plane that's passing through a storm somewhere over the Rocky Mountains, Lindsey Buckingham, Richard Dashut and I are discussing Talking Heads' Fear of Music, an album they both like a lot. Across the table, John McVie cringes when he hears the words New Wave. "Is that punk rock?" he asks, feigning horror, then slumps over and pretends to sleep. Buckingham and Dashut have never seen Talking Heads perform, so I am trying to describe what the band is like. The lead singer has spasms onstage, I explain, and the bass player and the drummer are married to each other. McVie wakes up. "Did you say married to each other? You mean, this band has a man and wife, a couple in it?" There is a long, irony-charged silence. In the back of the cabin, Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie are wrapped in blankets, asleep. The plane engines drone. McVie takes a sip of his drink and mumbles something.

"Oh. We ought t

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:10 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

Marcello gets to Tusk.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

Every time I read a paragraph of that I felt like I must have missed a paragraph. I'll have to give it another shot later.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

I fucking love this album.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 8 December 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

^Me fucking too.

I deeply love Rumours, but its beauty has a self-sufficient, perfected quality that can verge on stifling. Tusk brings air, space, and even a dose of ugliness to the table, and this makes the FM universe a much much bigger place for us all to live in. It was an unnecessary experiment, and all the more necessary for that.

Also, I contend that "Over and Over", over time, repeated listens, stretched across the decades, slowly but surely exerts itself as the greatest album opener ever.

Sorry if I sound pretentious. I haven't figured out how to write about things that make me weep.

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 8 December 2012 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

Disc 1 of the Tusk reissue is the only CD in my car. I usually take the bus, but I'll drive my car once per week to keep it in running condition. I get through the whole album about every 1.5 weeks. It's a bit remarkable that they reissued this on vinyl for $40. You can easily find used copies in record stores for <$10.

We Got Hasheem (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:12 (thirteen years ago)

Is it actual reissue vinyl, or did Warners merely stumble into a warehouse full of New/Old Stock and was like "Ka-Ching!"?

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

I believe it is a reissue. The year says 2012, and the vinyl is 140g. That's a weird weight, but I'm guessing it's still heavier than the original pressings.

We Got Hasheem (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)

iirc, they did half-speed remasters of Rumours and the s/t for a recent rsd, but didn't hear about anything re:Tusk. I'd still like to think there's a distributor out there sitting on a load of unsold copies of Tusk, I'm In You and Captain Fantastic.

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 December 2012 03:35 (thirteen years ago)

I doubt Marcello will be getting to I'm In You anytime soon.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 8 December 2012 05:30 (thirteen years ago)

That's a nice essay, I reckon it gets somewhere near the heart of things.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 8 December 2012 12:19 (thirteen years ago)

version of Over and Over on the Mac's AMAZING 1980 live album contains my favourite Buckingham guitar solo of all time

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDql-ykPZ-8

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

gorgeous version; thank you stevie.

collardio gelatinous, Sunday, 9 December 2012 07:34 (thirteen years ago)

I see there's a big box set version of "Rumours" coming out in the new year, 4 cds, dvd and vinyl - the cds are the album, the 2004 extras disc, another disc of out-takes and a live show, the dvd is the Rosebud documentary (sorry, no idea what that is but the report I read said it was "legendary"). Wonder if they'll do a similar box for "Tusk"?

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vrNtkC6rU0

Rosebud contains this incredible outdoor afternoon performance. If there's any more footage from this show I may die of joy. A tracklisting I've seen suggests it goes: World Turning, Rhiannon, Say You Love Me, Go Your Own Way, You Make Loving Fun, I'm So Afraid; but whether the other five are performances I do not know.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:38 (thirteen years ago)

I'm fairly sure Rhiannon will be, actually - iirc I've seen a couple of seconds of Stevie singing it outdoors, maybe on Behind The Music.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 9 December 2012 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

the echo on stevie's vocals on the line: "I think I had met my match"

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)

the double tracked drums on sara

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)

Nicks wailing, "ALL I EVER WANTED! WHOAAAAAH" over the outro

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

everything about that song basically

tylerw, Monday, 20 May 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

the echo on stevie's vocals on the line: "I think I had met my match"

Holy shit yes.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

when she sings "she was singing" and Christine's voice rises ecstatically AHHHHHHUHHHHAAAHHHHHHUHHHH

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

lay-saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaces

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

the laces undoing the laces

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

revived this because i listened to the expanded tusk today -- re: sara, i almost wish that alternate take wasn't there (tho i like hearing it i guess) just because the released version is ridiculously perfect, just an amazing song/production/vocal/performance/everything.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:53 (thirteen years ago)

The alternate take needs to be heard just once.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:54 (thirteen years ago)

i listen to the alt take more than the album version these days, i like the extra length and hearing the ooh-ahh bits (and the cleaning lady bit)

glycemic index joe (electricsound), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 01:58 (thirteen years ago)

^^^^2nded

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 06:27 (thirteen years ago)

i prefer the longer version!

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

more "sara". what's not to like?!

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:23 (thirteen years ago)

^otm

ILE Wet Treeship Night (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

do we need to have a poll? listened to both of these on headphones yesterday and there is no contest.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:22 (thirteen years ago)

GH version >>>>> original Tusk version >>>>> alternate take

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:48 (thirteen years ago)

what's the greatest hits version -- an edit?

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

i have a 7:36 from a bootleg labelled "tusk rehearsals" (nice version but terrible recording) and the original is 6:22 (Edited to 4:39 on earlier CD pressings).

yeah is GH the 4 min first CD release edit? and which alt are you talking about?

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:53 (thirteen years ago)

the ''It's all I want to do" vocal part in "you make loving fun"

jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

That's Rumours, dog.

media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)

oh fuck sorry

jbn, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)

The GH version was for a long time the only full version extant

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

how long are the GH version and the "original Tusk version"? is what you're calling "original" the 4:39 tusk first cd release?

caek, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever listened to this album without hearing something I haven't heard before.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

But I'd like to mention an ol' favorite, the way "Save Me a Place" alludes to Brian Eno's "I'll Come Running."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

via wiki
The version of the song featured on the original vinyl release of Tusk was the unedited 6:22 version, but when Tusk was originally released as a single compact disc in 1987 it featured the edited 4:37 version of "Sara" which leaves out the middle verse and musical bridge. It was not until the 1988 Fleetwood Mac Greatest Hits compilation was released that the 6:23 version of the song became available on compact disc. Nicks is famous for hating shortened versions of her songs.

There is also a version known as "the cleaning lady" edit, so-called as Nicks is clearly heard to say at the beginning of the demo recording, "I don't want to be a cleaning lady!" This version lasts almost nine minutes and was actually released on the 2-disc remastered version Tusk in March 2004. It contains an extended vamp, which includes excised lines previously only heard in live performances, such as, "and the wind became crazy," "no sorrow for sorrow, you can have no more," and "swallow all your pride, don't you ever change—never change."

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

Confession: I'm a much bigger fan of "Storms" than I am of "Sara."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

another great thing about tusk -- that this of all songs was a single
http://images.45cat.com/fleetwood-mac-its-not-that-funny-1979.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Ha, listening to that right now!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)


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