Haha it's a catchy term mate, don't be embarrassed.
― The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Monday, 30 July 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
i think i see what's happening here now
this entire thread has been some sort of ilx tax write-off hasnt it
you crafty sods better paypal me my cut
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
t/s owl bass vs sea punk
― the late great, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
is it owl bass
owl'n'bass
― Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
finney did you listen
― the late great, Friday, 3 August 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
Intense mix v.
― Tim F, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
really? thank you. i'm most of the proud of the "champion sound" bit at the beginning of the first blake baxter thing.
so am i deliberately misinterpreting aspects of the sound ... or rather am i ignoring (specifics of geography aside) that separates, say, standard bobbins and what rob might call predigested fact-ulum from the more vibrant funky and jackin scenes ... or would you just say i'm shoehorning everything into a frankendance sort of mush?
i'm really too old to follow developments in all continents and scenes but i wish i had kept up more w grime and funky now
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
i often get the same sense listening to some of this music as i do listening to herbert's "let's all make mistakes" and whatnot
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
Well I don't think your mix has anything to do with "jackin house" within the meaning of this thread, unsurprisingly!
The thing with funky is - or was - less for me about socio-geographical borders than a certain kind of overriding logic of groove that might not be apparent on a track by track basis. Pulling, say, Champion or (at the absolute opposite end of the funky spectrum) DJ MA1's remix of "I'm Leaving" into orbit with techno and tech-house and dubstep and etc. makes even those tracks feel very different.
This is probably at least in part a result of the fact that funky could perhaps have been described as a certain perspective on house rather than a full-fledged individual genre. I guess that precariousness is maybe why I have always tried to insist on distinctions from a critical perspective; funky didn't have the obvious distinctiveness of uk garage, whereby if you dropped a 2-step tune into a different genre mix it usually still sounded like... a 2-step tune.
(so 'predigested fact-ulum' is in some cases a certain light or framing that may be there or may not be - although then of course some tracks/artists adopt that vibe irrevocably).
Importantly though, cutting across genre lines doesn't always = frankendance, it depends on the strength of the through-line constructed (Let's All Make Mistakes is a paramount example of this).
An article I wrote recently for Audimat was basically me trying to set out a theoretical apparatus for the above but it's in French :-/
― Tim F, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
right, so they just sound like particularly choppy or spacey broken beat or house tracks? i think a lot of sounds the way early "space disco" stuff like 90s idjuts, paper recordings, etc just sounds like tech house in that context (blending in w/ stuff like DiY)
personally i also think that's an argument for their strength
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
i like the idea of fact music as a framing thing ... are FACT and BASS the same or different as superwords i wonder ;-)
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
i should not post so fast
it reminds me of how early "space disco" tracks (90s idjuts, paper recordings, etc) just sounded like tech house at that time (blending in w/ stuff like DiY)
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
makes even those tracks feel very different
what's interesting to me is that as a sheltered listener that's pretty much how those tracks "feel" to me, it doesn't sound like an incongruous transition or trick to me anymore than playing blake baxter with derrick may or eon with moodymann
― the late great, Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's kinda my point!
― Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
But have you heard many of the 'classic' funky sets?
― Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
no it's hard to know where to start w/ 1000 new posts and no handy clearance bin
― the late great, Sunday, 5 August 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
I will attend to this.
― Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
Attention Vahid:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/293y3a
2008.11.26 - RinseFM - Marcus Nasty ft. Rankin, Riskgo, Coldsteps, JME, Frisco, Sharky P, Versatile
― Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
thanks tim :-)
― the late great, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
i like jme a lot
haveyouevenheardthe 2x marcus nasty jackin mixes linked on the summer jams thread?
― r|t|c, Monday, 6 August 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah as per usual the best way by a mile to get into this stuff is through mixes.
― Tim F, Monday, 6 August 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
no only the commercial rinse one which went over my head (ps you all said it was not so good?)
― the late great, Monday, 6 August 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
Do you mean his 2010 Rinse CD? That's uk funky not jackin' house.
I thought it was very good but the absence of MCs means it's not as amazing as his best radio sets from 2008 - 2011 era.
Marcus now plays some jackin' house sets which is what r|t|c is referring to.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
Has Jack Daniels seen those graphics yet?
http://mashable.com/2012/07/22/jack-daniels-trademark-letter/
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
o i c
― the late great, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
Are there any good Jackin mixes out there other than those two Marcus Nasty ones?
― Astrochimp32, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
Just posted this to the favorite mixes thread: Superbad Bass Lounge #002 | A-level Results Mix | Mixed By: Nick Hannam
http://soundcloud.com/nick-hannam/hannam-superbad-mix
― MikoMcha, Monday, 10 September 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
Tune!
Dene Antony - A Feeling (Joe Barnes Bootleg)
― MikoMcha, Monday, 10 September 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
Okay how do I download this mix.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
right click?
― just sayin, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
Excellent!
Is there an obvious way to create that link from the soundcloud page that I'm missing?
― Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
view source, a do a find forstreamUrl":"http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/then copy and paste everything inside the double quotes starting with http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/in this case that's http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/iMHd65pdtNPy?stream_token=ktNzd― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, January 9, 2011 3:23 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
streamUrl":"http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/
then copy and paste everything inside the double quotes starting with http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/
in this case that's http://media.soundcloud.com/stream/iMHd65pdtNPy?stream_token=ktNzd
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Sunday, January 9, 2011 3:23 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― just sayin, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
Cheers, thanks.
― Tim F, Monday, 10 September 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
Hannah Wants - Mixtape 1012
http://soundcloud.com/hannah_wants/hannah-wants-mixtape-1012
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
i don't even know if that's proper "jackin" or what but i like it
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
Would love to see a Jackin' Refix of Carly Rae Jepsen's "Kiss"
...also there was an amazing snippet of a Jamie Oliver track ("Doin' Time") floating around on a random club vid posted on Dissensus. Pretty sure it snatched its vocals from a Sublime song.
I'm starting to like this stuff almost as much as I did Funky back in the early days.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.mixcloud.com/OneLoveATX/onelove-thepromisedland2-livekarmalounge-may21st2011/
appears to be on here
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
curses i thought this was interzone, don't wanna be seen on this foul thread
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
You want this thread really.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
From a recent Hannah Wants mix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjczK8Og2CU
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 6 June 2013 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
there's a sequel/remix to that now which is even better and weirder... in true jackin style they called it "dorothy's armpit"
― r|t|c, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:21 (eleven years ago) link
Must hear it, that track is amazing, darkside vibes. Chris Lorenzo is some kind of genius.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
ya it's on one of the recent 2:31 rinse sets but i forget which unfortunately
― r|t|c, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:51 (eleven years ago) link
22nd of May is Lorenzo and Shorterz, I'll try that.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 6 June 2013 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
wait got it now, 58:45 on 29th may
― r|t|c, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.kissfmuk.com/hannahwants/2013/06/tracklist-010613/http://radioplayer.kissfmuk.com/la807581/hannah-wants/
you know hannah wants has a weekly show on kiss btw?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
"Evil" "Dangerous"
lol
Thanks for chasing that down. Amazing. I think I need to hear the rest of this show.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I did she that she has a show. I'm going to try and catch her in London this month.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:06 (eleven years ago) link