You Make Polling Fun: FLEETWOOD MAC POLL RESULTS, ILM Artist Poll #22

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Well, the RS cover story from '97 recounted how during the Tusk tour McVie marched up to Buck, threw a glass of wine in his face, and slapped him after he donned a black shawl and mimicked Nicks' movements on stage, making her cry. "Don't you ever do that in front of a paying audience again!" she supposedly said.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

LAUNCHING: TOP TEN...

#10: "Albatross" (Peter Green, 1969) - 430 points, 18 votes, 1 number one vote

http://www.raw-tcsd.com/fleetwood%20mac%20fr249.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/8scHKFwr0og

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

That song is like listening to water flow down a river.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Come to think of it, it would fit well on "Another Green World."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

That photo explains why John and Mick live in Hawaii.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

That's a pretty postpunk looking cover.

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

No kidding. Down to the title.

collardio gelatinous, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

Green had been working on the piece for some time before the addition to the band of 18-year-old guitarist Danny Kirwan. Slide guitarist Jeremy Spencer was not generally inclined to work with Green, who had felt unable to realise the overall effect that he wanted. With Kirwan's input, Green completed the piece and it was recorded just two months after Kirwan joined, without Spencer present.

This is probably the most appropriate point in the countdown for a brief aside to mention that this poll inspired me to track down those Danny Kirwan solo albums, and I've been listening to Second Chapter on repeat throughout the day and it's a very, very good record! It has a similar post-McCartney vibe to that first Emmit Rhodes record. Definitely worth seeking out!

cwkiii, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

How much airplay did "Landslide" get before 1994?

Lots, in the US anyway, from the '70s onward. I was amazed to learn the studio version was not actually released as a single; I always assumed it was a major hit.

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

I should stop boosting MC today on ILM, but this is great:

"Albatross" conjures to mind a sadder and wiser Shadows; the brushstrokes now slower, more delicate, more lament than anticipation. The rhythm is down to unison, deep tom-tom and bass guitar, throbbing like an anginal heartbeat, quiet and quieter by the second.

I saw a German TV performance of "Albatross" recorded at that time, and there was neither land nor shore to be envisaged; merely five introverted, long-haired chaps in scruffy jumpers and scuffed jeans who might still have been mourning Robert Johnson in the pungent basement of a Dutch strip bar post-lock-in. The life of the mind, such as it still existed; and at its cynosure, the doomed bastard Peter Green, responsible for not only Fleetwood Mac's most successful year in terms of hit singles, but also for the most numbing and disturbing series of hit singles by anybody in any year.

With “Albatross” in particular, however, I think of Syd Barrett's "Baby Lemonade" - Jerry Shirley on drums doing his best to follow Syd's implausible tempo and mood changes, David Gilmour's lead guitar fortunate enough just to be keeping up – and realise that subsequent Fleetwood Macs represent an absolutely necessary running away from this utter darkness; though of course they always kept it somewhere in the middle of their minds; "A landslide will bring it down," and so, play on, just like those tender eight notes Peter Green sneaked onto the end of “Brown Eyes” on Tusk; the past is also allowed to run, if not quite catch up.

Jeff W, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

"Albatross" is put to very good use in the film Man On Wire, if you've seen it.

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

In contrast to "Landslide", I have never heard "Albatross" on US radio.

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:07 (thirteen years ago)

That's a fantastic piece of writing.

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

"Albatross" is also used prominently in Fassbinder's World on a Wire.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)

#9: "Gypsy" (Stevie Nicks, 1982) - 470 points, 19 votes, 1 number one vote

http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/images/stevie/stevie-nicks-witch.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/3oWIF2n4ZLs

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)

At the time, "Albatross" was out, with all the reverb on guitar. So we said, ‘Let’s be Fleetwood Mac doing Albatross, just to get going.’ It never really sounded like Fleetwood Mac… but that was the point of origin.

- George Harrison, referring to the Beatles' "Sun King"

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5crvsP9GW98

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)

I first heard "Gypsy" on a car radio, when we were driving east from LA on my very first trip to the US. Musically, it's a perfect cruising-along-the-highway song and I'll always associate it with that experience. Didn't pick up on the lyric until much later.

Jeff W, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

I like the album version fine, but the demo is <3<3<3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKIC_Kza4Ek

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

surely a conteder for POX: breakup songs

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

coming on the heels of Belladonna "Gypsy" demonstrated how differently solo Stevie would have her songs arranged.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, that demo's revelatory...

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

the first verse is really a tour de force. lyrics and phrasing both.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)

That's a pretty postpunk looking cover.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r3ls8TVm9Dw/TZRSEMipp3I/AAAAAAAAAkA/Zb7CWrZeEXA/s1600/CCF27112010_00002.jpg

David Allan Cow (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)

Her demos have consistently shown that Buck patronizes her or underrates her melodic sense. Chords are a different story...

No way do I prefer the demo to the original "Gypsy" though.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

"Albatross" is put to very good use in the film Man On Wire, if you've seen it.

This actually is the first place I heard it, about a year ago when the film was shown here — all I knew was Reprise-era Fleetwood Mac, and, wondering what that gorgeous piece of music was, I was surprised when I saw the end credits. Reminded me first of "Sun King," probably, but the ambient connection makes sense. Heard against the blue-silver look of Man on Wire it seems taken out of time in a marvelous way.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

GRIM UP HERE INNIT... I never really associate Mac with that vibe, but I love the idea that they've been running from it for over 40 years (at least John and Mick have)...

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

surely a conteder for POX: breakup songs

But less of one than "Gold Dust Woman" or "Silver Springs" (both of which are actually on my most recent "Breakup Songs" iPod playlist)

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:35 (thirteen years ago)

I like the album version fine, but the demo is <3<3<3

everything sounds better played on a Fender Rhodes

Lee626, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

Her demos have consistently shown that Buck patronizes her or underrates her melodic sense. Chords are a different story...

No way do I prefer the demo to the original "Gypsy" though.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No way I do either... The original always slays me.

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)

They're almost two different songs, except not.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

#8: "Tusk" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 491 points, 22 votes, 2 number one votes

http://991.com/newGallery/Fleetwood-Mac-Tusk---Set-of-4-V-372889.jpg

Track link: http://youtu.be/MT7W8xJFl_g

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

Having played tuba for seven years as a kid, this song is truly an inspiration...

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

Is there anyone else who was first exposed to Albatross by the Chill Out album of The KLF? It was years before I finally heard it on its own apart from the context of 'ambient dj mix', and my mind was blown to discover the artist!

Killer of Shrimp (Spectrist), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Oh! I had a sneaky feeling Tusk might take this.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Like I can't imagine anyone not finding space for it, not that it's exactly characteristic of anything. But nearly half of you didn't.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

"["Tusk"] reached #8 on the U.S. charts, #6 in the U.K. and #3 in Australia and Canada. It was one of the first songs to be released using a digital mixdown from an original analog source."

Clarke B., Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

But less of one than "Gold Dust Woman" or "Silver Springs" (both of which are actually on my most recent "Breakup Songs" iPod playlist)

― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:35 AM

oh i dunno about that. the first verse nails the plain sense in what it is to be alone, again, that the more oppositional stuff can't touch. the truth of a self in the absence of an alter. the real things that remain when the shared fantasy melts away - a room, a floor, some lace and paper flowers. or something like that.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:46 (thirteen years ago)

I voted for it, but not in the top ten. Cool, good groove, novel arrangement. "Tusk" (the song) always reminds me of The Muppets for some reason, though I can't think of any reason for that.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)

I've never liked the original Tusk as much as the Camper Van Beethoven version. Sorry, I realize this is heresy. But I think Camper did it darker and the part where it gets weird is better. Like FM shouting the choruses better than Lowrey though.

how's life, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

Real Savage Like...

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

It could've finished anywhere really. But #8 feels about right. It's the song that got me into f mac though, aged 14. "Real savage like", indeed.

Jeff W, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

"Tusk" (the song) always reminds me of The Muppets for some reason, though I can't think of any reason for that.

You are not alone on this: my wife refers to this song as "their Muppets song".

cwkiii, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

JUST TELL ME THAT YOU WANT ME

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/4/46/Electricmayhemposter.jpg

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

any time i'm drunk and hear Tusk at a bar or something i think to myself "this is one of the best songs ive ever heard"

diamonddave85, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

Her demos have consistently shown that Buck patronizes her or underrates her melodic sense. Chords are a different story...

yeah he's really an asshole and uncharitable whenever he discusses stevie and christine's songwriting.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)

t/f? "Animal" obvs based on Mick Fleetwood, right?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)

do any demos or alternate early versions of tusk exist?

queequeg (peter grasswich), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:58 (thirteen years ago)

there's a deluxe version with a second CD of alternate takes, mixes, demos, etc.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)

They couldn't, could they? If ever there was a studio piece... I know it was born from Lindsey's soundcheck riff, but it's the least jammable song ever.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)


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