best 1994 rap album besides Illmatic and Ready To Die

dp is pretty innocuous.

loving them or hating them too much is nagl

lol youre some aspiring rapper who moves in the same circles as the nascent digable planets then they sign a deal and get huge and youre all that guy for real world THE BABY TALK GUY

no one said blowout comb wasn't a charming artifact of the post native tongue bo-ho era, but c'mon

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

I think you would really dig Blowout Comb tbh, esp since you dig The Low End Theory

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf some dude ignores 99% of recommendations

but just to be clear everyone my dislike of them is not that intense and totally w/in aceptable parameters

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they like menacing rappers to be as cartoony& self aware as possible?

that sounds about right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eVp0hi0TCQ

musically its just a dope record

although 'lets get creamy' i guess sounds kinda silly. but w/e

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they like menacing rappers to be as cartoony& self aware as possible?

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe its really good music, two of the best producers at the top of their games, dope rappers having fun idk

don't love DP but BC is musically dope

I straight-up loved the first DP album when it came out. I mean, I bought the Us3 album, too, and Me Phi Me, and dubbed a tape of Miles Davis's Doo Bop from the library, and my dad bought Stolen Moments: Red Hot + Cool after TIME magazine named it the best album of that year, and I was ~very interested~ in what I read about Guru and Greg Osby at the time (though, pre-Internet, I never actually bothered to check them out) -- but Reachin' pretty much took the cake.

I think you would really dig Blowout Comb tbh, esp since you dig The Low End Theory

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

digable planets definitely like low end theory a lot, but that abt as far as id go

cmon they have a much difft style than tribe

you cannot deny that digable planets love the album the low end theory

musically its just a dope record

^^^this

the rapping is almost secondary (altho there are definitely some great bits)

diff style but comparable ~vibe~

production is WAY different

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuJ1NALgZ8s

digable planets tried to take a short cut to the low end theory vibe

xposts Granted, Me Phi Me's kind of an outlier there ... but after falling in love w/P.M. Dawn in 1991 and Arrested Development in '92 and Digable Planets in '93, I spent a fair amount of time in early adolescence trying to discover the next awesome "alternative rap" act.

LET is way more spare, boom-bap style than BOC, much of which has more of a blaxploitation feel to my ears (all the Shaft sdtk samples etc)

zoom out a lil bit shakey

digable planets tried to take a short cut to the low end theory vibe

otm

and?

i mean yeah that totally ruins it for me

idgi what was this "shortcut"

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they like menacing rappers to be as cartoony& self aware as possible?

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, tell us more about your views on the perfect authentic black entertainer. self-awareness is only for elvis costello, after all

christopher...

... confront an alligator, let it eat u raw

up until this moment I always thought that album was called Zingalamundi

If you asked me before now what this album was called, I would've told you Zingalangamundi.

Lots of script-flippers on this list.

i'm just saying that self-aware rappers isn't some gateway drug into kitty pryde or nothin

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they like menacing rappers to be as cartoony& self aware as possible?

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, tell us more about your views on the perfect authentic black entertainer. self-awareness is only for elvis costello, after all

― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:18 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really puzzling how u got from point 'a' to 'b' on this one.

i mean yeah that totally ruins it for me

it's not supposed to "ruin" anything it's just a way of talking about music

xpost to whiney: ya okay point taken. still kind of a silly double-strawman situation, on some two-siris-talking-to-each-other shit

But I just spat coffee over yr DN, so all is forgiven

GRΔVVΞ○DIGGΔZ

"it's just a way of talking about music"

nah it's bullshit

fwiw i like that the gravediggaz are self aware, raider klan would be better if they had more self awareness for a contemporary parallel (no i dont think they're nearly as good as gravediggaz) i just meant that it was that factor that made them the landslide winners in this poll

imo blowout comb is obv made in a universe where they are very aware of low end theory but its not even close to biting it.

I think the appeal of Gravediggaz is pretty obvious. Not just of the music, but of the musical object. Obscure (I know it's not THAT obscure, but relative to Wu- stricto sensu) camp classic by which tru obsessives (i.e. ILM posters/lurkers) distinguish themselves from the casual fans.

Would be v.interested in the results of a "how many of the albums from this list have you heard" poll

I count 12 but I may be forgetting a few I heard when they came out and promptly never listened to again

21; all of the vote getters except the PE, Heavy D, and Rappin 4tay

I think you would really dig Blowout Comb tbh, esp since you dig The Low End Theory

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf some dude ignores 99% of recommendations

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

i would like to be so self-possessed that i somehow have listened to thousands of albums without ever heeding someone else's words but i dunno how that's possible actually

28

15 (13 before the poll) but i'm pretty herbish

i would like to be so self-possessed that i somehow have listened to thousands of albums without ever heeding someone else's words but i dunno how that's possible actually

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:53 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah except i've recommended & watched people recommend this album on ilx over & over & youve ignored us so far, why stop now

ive heard 40 or 41

i was pretty forthright upthread about why I've avoided Digable Planets for years and years, not in a proud way but just saying that's my baggage

can we have a new board called I Love Rap But I Don't Have to Be A Dick About It for like, you know, the rest of us

was i being a dick? sorry man, i thought i was just trying to be honest about my hangups

eh I'm probably just cranky, it feels like it is completely impossible for there to be a rap thread on ilm without people being super hardman abt shit or dragging beef from thread to thread - wasn't responding to yr post directly fwiw