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http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/2012/07/23/perhaps-someday-an-internet-search-engine-will-be-invented-that-will-prevent-these-misunderstandings/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
And here I thought Mark E Smith was just being paranoid when he says everyone's trying to rip off The Fall.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 23 July 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Re-Mit is pretty solid, as usual!
― StanM, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yes! I'm really enjoying it after the first few listens. "Jetplane" is the standout track for me, so far.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Madness. It's fucking awful. And I haven't said that since the 90s.
― Doran, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Funny, every album gets his..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 06:38 (eleven years ago) link
gets this, I mean
yeah the consensus favorites only emerge after a decade or two, if they ever do
is there a single fall album all fans can agree on? hex enduction hour? maybe bend sinister?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link
i would submit the unutterable but i fear many have not even heard it.
No. No. No.
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 09:06 (eleven years ago) link
In tests, 26 out of 29 fall fans who expressed a preference, voted "Slates"
In tests, 27 out of 29 fall fans who expressed a preference, voted "This nation's Saving Grace"
(Other fall albums are available)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 09:41 (eleven years ago) link
I've never heard of The Fall, but according to allmusic, they were influenced by Pink Floyd. What is the best place to start for a Pink Floyd fan?
― how's life, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
not listening to The Fall, I would say. (not sure how Allmusic came to that conclusion about PF being an influence)
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
Well, that would be that Chiselers/Chilinists one wouldn't it xp
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
Well Floyd did have that one song, all in all you're just a Brix in the Fall
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
He's quick, that lad
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
xp ouch
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
I did wince as I typed that one out, sorry
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
― how's life, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
Pink Floyd are short,anyway
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
Short of what?
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
okay, here's an attempt at a more helpful answer HL: at a stretch, This Nation's Saving Grace has elements of the "psychedelia gone wrong" that Barrett-era Floyd dealt in. It's a pretty big leap though, and I'm sure people will disagree vehemently (always the way with anything Fall-related).
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
They are also said to be influenced by the Beatles. What is the Fall's entry into Beatlesque pop?
― how's life, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
their amazing cover of "a A Day in the Life" probably.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
Bollocks to both of those (xp)
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
Upon first listen, the best tracks were on the Record Store Day single. The rest of the album is studio noodling.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
I would recommend Grotesque to a newbie. The music is more straight-ahead punk/rockabilly, and the lyrical content is clear, and - blob 59 excepted - relatively murk-free. Also, if the words don't have you hooked, you'll never get the fall.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
I have had luck with introducing people to the Fall through Grotesque.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
That's a good question... what are the best Fall starter-albums for new listeners?
Grotesque makes sense... I'd probably add TNSG, Frenz, Infotainment as being "easy-ish" to start with.Not their best stuff necessarily, but a relatively painless entry for people? 50,000 Fall Fans would probably work well too. Who knows!
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
50,000 Fall Fans is a well-curated comp, containing many titles I had read about in various places. Definitely sufficient for me to ascertain that, aside from a few random cuts, they're never going to be my thing.
― New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
My first Fall album was 'Seminal Live.' Was in the $3.99 cassette bin at the campus store freshman year o college.
Kinda amazing I persisted.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
50,000 Fall Fans is definitely my go-to - it only has like 1-2 selections from each album, so it's not like you're 'ruining' much by listening to that first.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
Not that keen on The Fall in general but I listened to The Unutterable this morning following amateurist mentioning it above and it was great. Would listen again.
This afternoon I tried Grotesque, also mentioned above, and lasted about 90 seconds. Can't be bothered with that stuff.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I would recommend The Unutterable as the starter-kit to pretty much anyone
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Either that or Hex
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Definitely not "Hex" I'd say
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
Esp. the 2nd side
Though I suppose if you can sit through "And This Day" you'll be able to cope with anything else MES might throw at you
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
Hex is probably their most interesting album (well, apart from Levitate) - it's iconic, vivid, catchy, quite obviously something unusual. Surely the listener would prefer this to the (imo) slightly more humdrum charms of The Infotainment Scan or whatever else was suggested? Don't conflate enjoyability with simplicity
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Or even memorability with simplicity
― have a nice Blog (imago), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
Infotainment Scan is not a humdrum album even in comparison to Hex.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
I found Info kinda straightforwardish and energetic. Hex, though great, would seem a lil obtuse for a newbie, I'd think.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
This Nation's Saving Grace is my favourite, therefore that's the best one for everyone else to start with.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
Dont know about albums but Peel Sessions Versipn of Glam Racket wd prob be one of the mist user friendky points of origin for newbies.
Also re Floyd influence in the Fall: three words, all beginning w the letter D...
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Man am I glad I hadnt bothered to type those three words out...
― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
umm... dreams, dragons and _____ ?
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
dragos
― Mark G, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
Dream's is one
― smartphones - the government's secret weapon against ILX (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 16 May 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
Drugs, obv.
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:04 (eleven years ago) link
Dave Gilmour with your granny on bongos
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:06 (eleven years ago) link