rolling regional thug thread 2012

you don't have to like anything, and whether you like something is immaterial to whether it's "allowed" to be posted in "your" thread

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:24 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when did i say this was 'my' thread? reckless use of quotations.

i'm arguing as one voice of many who define the boundaries of this thread that perhaps this doesn't really belong on this thread, much as i would argue against discussions around kitty pryde, azealia banks, mc chris, etc. etc. etc.

i'm no le1f stan or anything but honestly you could as easily make an argument that "wut" shares as much with the last decade of cali rap as the last decade of hipster rap imo

― J0rdan S., Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:13 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont hear it in his rap style, maybe i do in the production? need to listen again. but this argument is more along the lines of what id hope ppl would argue & yes we are all gatekeepers itt & have been at various times

when did i say this was 'my' thread? reckless use of quotations.

oh my bad you only act like it

ur whining

unrelated, can i just u_u https://twitter.com/ktetuani/status/226640311684841472

'wut' sounds like some azealia banks loft party dance music ish more than rap qua rap. or like, das racist-style loose rapping. idk. doesnt really belong itt imo.

― google deeznuts (D-40), Friday, July 20, 2012 8:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im sorry i prefer hipster dance music be kept off the hip hop threads \oO/

― google deeznuts (D-40), Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:06 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1. forks likes it 2. cheap dance/electroclash-ish style production in the lineage of peaches & fischerspoooner 3. loosely free associative 'rapping' 4. fanbase that doesn't exist outside nyc/small internet base of music nerds & will likely gain purchase largely through the fashion world

its azealia banks all over again

― google deeznuts (D-40), Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:48 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whether le1f qualifies for discussion in the rolling regional thug thread 2012 or if he belongs in a separate thread is a cornerstone of our thread-based democracy

― google deeznuts (D-40), Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ur whining

― google deeznuts (D-40), Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:31 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im sure you trying to score the MOST PEDANTIC of points here is exactly what everyone wants to see

i dont consider that whining, if you do maybe just dont read the thread? you contribute so little to it at this pt anyway

im sure you trying to score the MOST PEDANTIC of points here is exactly what everyone wants to see

― google deeznuts (D-40), Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:41 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

it's better when you do it? lol

im discussing music b/c its interesting to me to discuss, whereas i find watching you burn away the hours of your life tediously picking at me w/ meta commentary to be a complete waste of time

warms my heart to see people who use their time more constructively than me showing concern. don't let me slow you down, noble youtube conquistador.

his rapping style is not exactly cali but I mean if you dropped that in a mix with tell me when to go, vans, you're a jerk and rack city it wouldn't sound out of place

rev otm basically

i don't intend to argue at this time of night but deej there is such a massive difference between "i don't like this and i'll say why in this thread, where it belongs" and "THIS DOESN'T BELONG HERE KEEP IT AWAY FROM ME", and i'm fairly surprised you're taking the line that you are

i mean maybe you don't want anyone else to contribute - it's not as if you really take on board what other people are into anyway - so whatever innit

to be fair to deej i don't think making his observations on the le1f thread would've been a way better idea

I have no problem with "does this belong here" being a topic of conversation and its more interesting of a question to me than "is this good" b/c its already not my thing, what am I bringing to a convo where I just say "this sucks."

I mean, I dont even know that I think this sucks per se, but I do know its in a style of music that feels marginally of interest to hip hop fans imo

erm apart from the number of hip hop fans itt who are interested in it?

and a bunch of us like disco or dance music or MIA but if you start telling me MIA is a subject of discussion for this thread i will probably argue that pt

you don't have to like anything, and whether you like something is immaterial to whether it's "allowed" to be posted in "your" thread

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly

me not liking it isn't the reason i'm giving for it not being posted in this thread, and i never said it was 'my' thread.

why dont you guys keep cosigning shit that i've already responded to tho makes a lot of sense!

you didn't use the word "allowed" either, i wasn't quoting you

You could describe a bunch of songs on the Le1f record as having dance beats (although not in the Azaelia Banks sense, it's all def more hiphop-based than house-based) but "Wut" isn't really one of them. J0rdan otm. Also, how is his style "free associative"? It's not really based on non sequitors or stream of consciousness or anything like that.

http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/2/28/128803468331387787.jpg

You could describe a bunch of songs on the Le1f record as having dance beats (although not in the Azaelia Banks sense, it's all def more hiphop-based than house-based) but "Wut" isn't really one of them. J0rdan otm. Also, how is his style "free associative"? It's not really based on non sequitors or stream of consciousness or anything like that.

― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:57 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a good post & at least gets me to reevaluate

the truth is i associate that synth-sax sound a lot more w/ east coast dance music; 90s house, sure, but moreso these days with hipster house approximating 90s house i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGB9ZMIUGuw

i cant understand anything that happens during his double time sections. so maybe its not free associative there. but that's the same kind of technical overcompensation i dont like from iggy azealia. the lyrical style though, just stuff like 'neo nazi kamikaze want to firebomb the bomb-diggity' etc. just strikes me as kind of aimless lyricisms that das racist indulge in, the idea that its funny just because its a reference to something we're familiar with (or i we're not, it makes us want to be familiar so we can be cool).

again if there's another framework in which this stuff 'works' & 'functions' I'm open to that, i'm not interested in proving this is 'bad' or 'not worthy of acclaim' at all -- i think that would be privileged gatekeeping. on the other hand, i am interested in how boundaries are pushed w/out leaving a genre completely. i mean, maybe i'm wrong, maybe this will appeal to hip hop heads or maybe in five years nahright will look ridiculous for ignoring this seminal piece of hip hop but to me he doesnt make enough concessions to the broad rap fanbase to become that kind of crossover figure (& by extension qualify for inclusion in this thread)

fwiw i dont really care if ppl want to talk about him in this thread as much as i want to debate the idea of ppl talking about him in this thread or at least try & tease out what people like about his music. it seems like lately i keep running into this brick wall of THIS IS SO GOOD about everything black hippy / killer mike / le1f & i'd like to see some pushback. I kind of think ppl are afraid of appearing to be against gay rappers (& if i make an argument that appears that way then you absolutely should call me out on it) but I think it does a disservice to the music to not pick at it a little more than happens in other places. (ILX used to be so great at doing this!)

idk i guess there's probably an element of 'we should unite about this b/c hip hop blogs are already going to ignore it for obvi reasons' which is fair to a degree.

Deej that's all fine but your initial post was totally dismissive and I don't know how we were supposed to remotely get anything other than you not liking it and trying to clown forks out of it

'wut' sounds like some azealia banks loft party dance music ish more than rap qua rap. or like, das racist-style loose rapping. idk. doesnt really belong itt imo.

― google deeznuts (D-40), Friday, July 20, 2012 7:10 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this isn't 'totally dismissive' its genre pedantry

I'll defer to your expertise

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7fefzdvuJ1qarn5zo1_r2_500.gifhttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ffuf2WKw1qarn5zo1_500.gif

lol at this argument

but seriously its amazing to me you guys would think i'd be down with someone posting #seapunk rap itt

off topic, but i'm not 100 percent on what seapunk even is, could one of today's relevant young ppl explain to me? *adjusts hearing aid*

it's a new style of rap pioneered by an up and coming artist named chief keef

#seapunk, straight off the internet.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/seapunk-twitter-tumblr-ultrademon-zombelle-molly-soda/Content?oid=5389539

the url basically explains it

i don't cosign the use of the word seapunk to describe le1f or indeed its use...anywhere

that picture is way more than 1000 words

https://twitter.com/kttydothedishes/status/226807359945711616

didn't this argument end 48 hours ago?

the main thing i'm learning from this conversation is that deej follows kitty pride on twitter

didn't this argument end 48 hours ago?

― J0rdan S., Monday, July 23, 2012 1:35 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

the half day lull of deej stewing and then returning all "but seriously" was classic

lol frankenrap

i know we're done with brick squad and onto just co-signing every teenager in chicago or whatever but have we talked about how good the Ice Burgandy tape is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJFp7duLGU

Progress Involves Risk Unfortunately is like a "Come and Pet The P.U.S.S.Y."-level backronym tho

tipped off to that one by the "Most Slept-On" feature in Spin actually. Good stuff

:-/ yall are mad late 2 that b/c u were too busy catching up on chicago teenagers id posted 3 mo ago

i would have done my own due dilligence but

for fucks sake turn youtubes off the the regional thug thread