It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

who's pissed?

it's trollbait, but no one seems pissed

you

i really sincerely do hope this all results in this kid having a one-on-one debate/interview with whiney

"brother intern, in order to shatter the canon first you must memorize it"

like i'll totally give him a pass on being as venomous as he wants to be since this is the album he literally wrote the book on (xpost)

i'm having a happy day i'm not pissed

also i do think lex's thing was pretty good but that line is just funny because it's soooo indicative of lex's own personal persecution complex about the burden of Liking Super Popular Pop Music But In A Smart Way Not The Regular Way

altho tbh I find his "listen to something made 3 years before I was born!? that's crazy!" schtick sort of weird. this is hardly a universal sentiment among teenagers ime.

― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:15 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, the other day I was talking to a girl around the same age who insisted everything made after the 70s ("...maaaaaybe the 80s") was trash. I felt way more sad for her than this kid.

it's soooo indicative of lex's own personal persecution complex about the burden of Liking Super Popular Pop Music But In A Smart Way Not The Regular Way

very OTM

nah 60s/70s fetishists, while misguided, have way more good music to be smug about than Clams Casino stans (xpost)

I felt way more sad for her than this kid.

yeah this has been my reaction too when I've encountered this sentiment. it's not an either/or proposition! You can like it all! except for clams casino.

that guy is a fucking moron

i work with a lot of people around 10 years younger than me and am consistently surprised at the degree to which there is almost no generation gap and how many of them listen to music that was either popular more from my college years or stuff that was popular before BOTH of our times

you can like it all, but you don't have to

She seemed to have no idea that modern music exists beyond the top 40, tho. Also she asked me if I was familiar with the White Stripes as if they were an obscure act. xps

the funny thing is the NPR writer's completely right about the way PE sound -- chuck's rapping is harsh and 'strange' in a way that most contemporary rap isn't, the sampling is often weird and jarring, and they're often very funny (or, as the guy puts it, 'i find myself more inclined to laugh than dance'). personally, i find myself drawn to those sounds and i hate dancing in public, but it doesn't surprise me that someone who uses 'perfect for post-club comedowns' as praise wouldn't like PE. (his co-workers pointed him toward the wrong album, too -- he'd probably enjoy 'fear of a black planet' more.)

in a way, i'm kind of impressed that a 19-year-old is so articulate and confident about the kind of music he likes -- i sure as hell wasn't, which is probably why i wasted all that money on neil young albums and other shit i never actually enjoyed.

She seemed to have no idea that modern music exists beyond the top 40, tho. Also she asked me if I was familiar with the White Stripes as if they were an obscure act. xps

haha okay, people like that are among those whom I fondly think of as "the worst"

infectiously triumphant mp3s

i work with a lot of people around 10 years younger than me and am consistently surprised at the degree to which there is almost no generation gap and how many of them listen to music that was either popular more from my college years or stuff that was popular before BOTH of our times

i'd love it if this was a boss saying "man, my employees LOVE that my iPod plays through the office."

PE are very danceable tho!

Or at least were when they were good.

if you have problems dancing to "Bring the Noise" or "Don't Believe the Hype", you can't dance

(I stopped there because I don't really need to list every track on Millions and also "Black Steel..." is much more danceable form in Tricky's cover of it)

btw i do think this kid's a tool and that it's hilarious some NPR staffer is squeezing Onion pieces out of the interns, but eh what music nerd at 19 wouldn't have said something ridiculous and flip about a classic if given the shot.

so points to questlove for fighting a candle and lol to web trolls who curse the intern's darkness

oh man, if I'd reviewed a Dylan album at 19...

lol i mean lighting a candle xpost

lol @ fighting a candle

what a disappointing GIS

literally laughed out loud at lex's headline "Surely such youthful individuality should be applauded?"

― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:00 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on i shouldn't have to point out to you of all people that writers don't do the headlines and standfirsts

looking forward to intern takedowns of 36 Chambers and Loveless tbh

oh come on i shouldn't have to point out to you of all people that writers don't do the headlines and standfirsts

― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:31 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark

fair enough, i should have said the headline to your article instead of your headline, but still hilarious

Back to candlefighting please.

you want youtube, Dan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tKKg0b64ok

i bet like half the late 20s/early 30s successful web scribes could have pumped out a "Run-DMC? Bah, give me dipset" a decade ago.

i really sincerely do hope this all results in this kid having a one-on-one debate/interview with whiney

― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:18 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

YES PLZ

i bet like half the late 20s/early 30s successful web scribes could have pumped out a "Run-DMC? Bah, give me dipset" a decade ago.

as i said in my piece, i actually DID write a "bah public enemy are nowhere near as great as trina" piece back in the day

lost to posterity obv but i stand by every word

also look i've not heard my fair share of classic albums (rap albums even! check my involvement in the 1994 albums poll) BUT i feel extremely comfortable saying that one of the world's most read music outlets shouldn't be out here propping up rap criticism by someone who by his own admission only first loved a rap song two years ago. even an intern! there are plenty of interns NPR could hire that could've done this piece in a way that wasn't like the thoughts of a puppy examining a new chew toy.

looking forward to intern takedowns of 36 Chambers and Loveless tbh

Actually they already did Loveless:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2009/12/youve_never_heard_loveless_1.html

i work with a lot of people around 10 years younger than me and am consistently surprised at the degree to which there is almost no generation gap and how many of them listen to music that was either popular more from my college years or stuff that was popular before BOTH of our times

i'd love it if this was a boss saying "man, my employees LOVE that my iPod plays through the office."

― da croupier, Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:26 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol fuck no dogg i got an office....no but srsly one guy wears nothing but classic rock shirts like CCR, skynyrd, zz top, etc...another dude is all into testament, anthrax, megadeth (and some newer bands like amon amarth etc)

"Maybe every half-formed thought that comes into an intern's tiny developing mind doesn't need to be blasted out to the worlds largest public radio audience"

i didn't think this exactly when i read the npr thing but i did think damn what a missed opportunity to show people what you can do. it wss poorly written. and the guy even says that he had weeks to think about it/write it.

The only thing I knew was that My Bloody Valentine was one of the pioneers of shoegazer music.

the joke is that these pieces don't get edited right?

i don't think the piece was great (though i'm not into tearing down 19-yr-old writers really) and obv i think the kid has absolutely dreadful taste in what he does like, BUT i'm not gonna get outraged that NPR published it when there are ACRES AND ACRES of awful, awful music writing shat out every week by professional adult journalists that are way more necessary to take down

there are plenty of interns NPR could hire that could've done this piece in a way that wasn't like the thoughts of a puppy examining a new chew toy.

oh i don't doubt plenty of earnest teens would have loved to just regurgitate old reviews "put me in, coach!" book report style

though I bet we'd shred apart some noble-hearted scrubs "chuck d was a prophet" piece too

also look i've not heard my fair share of classic albums (rap albums even! check my involvement in the 1994 albums poll) BUT i feel extremely comfortable saying that one of the world's most read music outlets shouldn't be out here propping up rap criticism by someone who by his own admission only first loved a rap song two years ago. even an intern! there are plenty of interns NPR could hire that could've done this piece in a way that wasn't like the thoughts of a puppy examining a new chew toy.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

no lie what the tone of the NPR piece reminded me of more than anything was
http://www.ithaca.edu/rhp/ithacan/articles/0308/28/accent/2back_beat.htm

will admit i was thinking of the purpology people when i made my dipset comment

dude should have worked harder at it. there are all kinds of interesting things you could say about now -vs- then. i don't care if he's 19.

don't mock them. just call them cultured. (xpost)